And MC is awesome as always, feels no shame in one-basing Thorzain, he executed it well.
This group is unreal though, after the Ro8 curse where the former Ro8 players never get into the Ro8 of next season, both of them did now and broke the curse.
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Finganforn
Sweden77 Posts
And MC is awesome as always, feels no shame in one-basing Thorzain, he executed it well. This group is unreal though, after the Ro8 curse where the former Ro8 players never get into the Ro8 of next season, both of them did now and broke the curse. | ||
Die4Ever
United States17564 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:15 Darkhoarse wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:14 Zealously wrote: On September 26 2013 05:12 Necosarius wrote: Thorzain goes 3-2 vs mc and is still eliminated :/ MC wins the deciding games and advances - seems fair enough This argument literally comes up in every LR thread in which a player comes back from the loser's match to advance. especially when the losing player is white and the winning player is korean lol | ||
Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:15 Heavenlee wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 26 2013 04:56 painkilla wrote: Please win ThorZaIN. I don't want to see this chesse toss in Blizzcon. On September 26 2013 04:57 painkilla wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 04:55 ArchangelJada wrote: Blink widow mine dodge gives me nerd chills Please, even I can do it. On September 26 2013 05:09 painkilla wrote: MC should be ashamed of himself if this is the only way he can win PvT. On September 26 2013 05:13 painkilla wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:11 Die4Ever wrote: MC actually needs to make it to the season finals in order to qualify. So he needs to get at least 5th place in WCS EU. I hope he doens't for the sake of SC2. Can you stop acting like a 3 year old who had his toy taken away? That is fucking owned. | ||
SnuggleZhenya
596 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:12 Necosarius wrote: Thorzain goes 3-2 vs mc and is still eliminated :/ That's not how double elimination works. Thorzain's advantage from the first win came in getting to play through the winner's side rather than the losers. By the time they got to the final match, they were back on equal footing. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:15 Darkhoarse wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:14 Zealously wrote: On September 26 2013 05:12 Necosarius wrote: Thorzain goes 3-2 vs mc and is still eliminated :/ MC wins the deciding games and advances - seems fair enough This argument literally comes up in every LR thread in which a player comes back from the loser's match to advance. Let's put it another way then: MC won 2 Bo3s, Thorzain only 1. Does it seem fair that Thorzain would advance over the guy who won more games in the group? | ||
Glubschauge
Austria1216 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:14 freetgy wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:13 painkilla wrote: On September 26 2013 05:11 Die4Ever wrote: MC actually needs to make it to the season finals in order to qualify. So he needs to get at least 5th place in WCS EU. I hope he doens't for the sake of SC2. i hope he does, only reason i am still in touch with sc2 at all 8D i dont understand how you can not love the undertaker! | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:15 LittleRedBoy wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:10 Zheryn wrote: Fuck. Just really hopes MC loses in ro8 and loses placement bracket so he doesn't get enough points to surpass Naniwa. I think MC just passed Lucifron in points by making it to the round of 8. Lucifron started this season already about 1000 points down to MC, so MC has long been above him. | ||
AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:12 chipmonklord17 wrote: That's the only flaw in this system. Its a shame for Thorzain but it happens The only thing I dislike is that all players in the group doesn't play each other. But I would be ok with it if you called it "Bracket B" and not "Group B". | ||
LittleRedBoy
United States229 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:15 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:15 LittleRedBoy wrote: On September 26 2013 05:10 Zheryn wrote: Fuck. Just really hopes MC loses in ro8 and loses placement bracket so he doesn't get enough points to surpass Naniwa. I think MC just passed Lucifron in points by making it to the round of 8. I don't think Lucifron was even near the top 16 Sorry I mean Naniwa. | ||
xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:12 chipmonklord17 wrote: That's the only flaw in this system. Its a shame for Thorzain but it happens It's not the only one. You can qualify by beating the worst in the group (0-2) and not having to meet the best in the group (2-0) with a 2-3 score against the remaining player (1-1, 2-3 in games). Some people are OK with this, but I'm not. | ||
Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:13 movac wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:10 Zheryn wrote: Fuck. Just really hopes MC loses in ro8 and loses placement bracket so he doesn't get enough points to surpass Naniwa. Advancing to the ro8, MC already surpassed Naniwa. Waat damn, didn't know ro8 gave that many points, fuck. | ||
Finganforn
Sweden77 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:16 SnuggleZhenya wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:12 Necosarius wrote: Thorzain goes 3-2 vs mc and is still eliminated :/ That's not how double elimination works. Thorzain's advantage from the first win came in getting to play through the winner's side rather than the losers. By the time they got to the final match, they were back on equal footing. Yeah, MC went 2-1 and Thorzain went 1-2, MC went 4-3 and Thorzain went 3-4 | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:16 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:15 Darkhoarse wrote: On September 26 2013 05:14 Zealously wrote: On September 26 2013 05:12 Necosarius wrote: Thorzain goes 3-2 vs mc and is still eliminated :/ MC wins the deciding games and advances - seems fair enough This argument literally comes up in every LR thread in which a player comes back from the loser's match to advance. Let's put it another way then: MC won 2 Bo3s, Thorzain only 1. Does it seem fair that Thorzain would advance over the guy who won more games in the group? Oh no, I agree with you. I'm just saying some people whine about map score/route the player took. I think if you win 2 bo3's you advance fair and square. | ||
sharkie
Austria18220 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:16 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:15 Darkhoarse wrote: On September 26 2013 05:14 Zealously wrote: On September 26 2013 05:12 Necosarius wrote: Thorzain goes 3-2 vs mc and is still eliminated :/ MC wins the deciding games and advances - seems fair enough This argument literally comes up in every LR thread in which a player comes back from the loser's match to advance. Let's put it another way then: MC won 2 Bo3s, Thorzain only 1. Does it seem fair that Thorzain would advance over the guy who won more games in the group? MC dodged the strongest player in the group, Thorzain did not Yeah, fair | ||
xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:16 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:15 Darkhoarse wrote: On September 26 2013 05:14 Zealously wrote: On September 26 2013 05:12 Necosarius wrote: Thorzain goes 3-2 vs mc and is still eliminated :/ MC wins the deciding games and advances - seems fair enough This argument literally comes up in every LR thread in which a player comes back from the loser's match to advance. Let's put it another way then: MC won 2 Bo3s, Thorzain only 1. Does it seem fair that Thorzain would advance over the guy who won more games in the group? Thorzain didn't play the '0-2' guy, and MC didn't play the '2-0' guy (skill should be correlated to this IMO). Is it fair that the order matters? | ||
Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:16 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:15 Darkhoarse wrote: On September 26 2013 05:14 Zealously wrote: On September 26 2013 05:12 Necosarius wrote: Thorzain goes 3-2 vs mc and is still eliminated :/ MC wins the deciding games and advances - seems fair enough This argument literally comes up in every LR thread in which a player comes back from the loser's match to advance. Let's put it another way then: MC won 2 Bo3s, Thorzain only 1. Does it seem fair that Thorzain would advance over the guy who won more games in the group? Not to mention, what Thorzain gets from winning the first match is staying in the winner's bracket, going to the winner's match, while MC falls to the loser's bracket. People always jump at the head to head thing, but ignore the overall Bo3 performance, as well as the winner/loser's bracket dynamic. But there are many facets to the group format, you can basically find a number of good and bad things. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:17 Darkhoarse wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:16 Zealously wrote: On September 26 2013 05:15 Darkhoarse wrote: On September 26 2013 05:14 Zealously wrote: On September 26 2013 05:12 Necosarius wrote: Thorzain goes 3-2 vs mc and is still eliminated :/ MC wins the deciding games and advances - seems fair enough This argument literally comes up in every LR thread in which a player comes back from the loser's match to advance. Let's put it another way then: MC won 2 Bo3s, Thorzain only 1. Does it seem fair that Thorzain would advance over the guy who won more games in the group? Oh no, I agree with you. I'm just saying some people whine about map score/route the player took. I think if you win 2 bo3's you advance fair and square. Oh, right. It's only ever a issue when someone's favorite player loses, though, which kind of invalidates the criticism TT | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States43113 Posts
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SkullZ9
Belgium2048 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:17 xN.07)MaK wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2013 05:12 chipmonklord17 wrote: On September 26 2013 05:12 THELEHGOTERRAN wrote: Thorzain 3-2!!! That's the only flaw in this system. Its a shame for Thorzain but it happens It's not the only one. You can qualify by beating the worst in the group (0-2) and not having to meet the best in the group (2-0) with a 2-3 score against the remaining player (1-1, 2-3 in games). Some people are OK with this, but I'm not. I completely agree with that ! | ||
askmc70
United States722 Posts
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