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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 25 2013 20:20 GMT
#721
On September 26 2013 05:17 xN.07)MaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 05:12 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 26 2013 05:12 THELEHGOTERRAN wrote:
Thorzain 3-2!!!



That's the only flaw in this system. Its a shame for Thorzain but it happens


It's not the only one. You can qualify by beating the worst in the group (0-2) and not having to meet the best in the group (2-0) with a 2-3 score against the remaining player (1-1, 2-3 in games).

Some people are OK with this, but I'm not.

The same can be said for Dreamhack/MLG/IEM Round 64 players where you can get into Round 16 without playing the best players either. So many people QQing because a Korean advanced over an European. If it was the other way around, no one would give a fuck and make these sorry excuses.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 25 2013 20:20 GMT
#722
On September 26 2013 05:18 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 05:16 Zealously wrote:
On September 26 2013 05:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On September 26 2013 05:14 Zealously wrote:
On September 26 2013 05:12 Necosarius wrote:
Thorzain goes 3-2 vs mc and is still eliminated :/

MC wins the deciding games and advances - seems fair enough

This argument literally comes up in every LR thread in which a player comes back from the loser's match to advance.


Let's put it another way then: MC won 2 Bo3s, Thorzain only 1. Does it seem fair that Thorzain would advance over the guy who won more games in the group?


MC dodged the strongest player in the group, Thorzain did not

Yeah, fair


Oh yeah let's subjectively put MC against the (supposedly) strongest player in the group to make sure the white guy and MC have equal chances of advancing. Equality!
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
September 25 2013 20:20 GMT
#723
On September 26 2013 05:19 askmc70 wrote:
thorzain all ins mc, no one whines, mc all ins thorzain everyone looses their minds.


Yeah actually this is what this thread is full of, I'm happy for the sake of liquibets that MC made it through
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
September 25 2013 20:20 GMT
#724
That was one of the best executed all ins I've ever seen. Almost anyone else would have just thrown his army into bunkers and die instantly, or expanded and gone in a macro game from behind. Instead, he did all the damage he could get with those perfectly controlled void rays and oracles while he researched blink which was simply brilliant.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 25 2013 20:21 GMT
#725
On September 26 2013 05:19 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 05:17 Darkhoarse wrote:
On September 26 2013 05:16 Zealously wrote:
On September 26 2013 05:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On September 26 2013 05:14 Zealously wrote:
On September 26 2013 05:12 Necosarius wrote:
Thorzain goes 3-2 vs mc and is still eliminated :/

MC wins the deciding games and advances - seems fair enough

This argument literally comes up in every LR thread in which a player comes back from the loser's match to advance.


Let's put it another way then: MC won 2 Bo3s, Thorzain only 1. Does it seem fair that Thorzain would advance over the guy who won more games in the group?

Oh no, I agree with you. I'm just saying some people whine about map score/route the player took. I think if you win 2 bo3's you advance fair and square.


Oh, right. It's only ever a issue when someone's favorite player loses, though, which kind of invalidates the criticism TT

Yeah if this had been Thorzain coming through from the loser's match all of these people would be praising his endurance and comeback skill. But since their player lost, it's imba format.
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pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
September 25 2013 20:21 GMT
#726
On September 26 2013 05:19 askmc70 wrote:
thorzain all ins mc, no one whines, mc all ins thorzain everyone looses their minds.

You might be unfamiliar with TvP right now but almost every terran all-ins mid-game.
It's part of the macro game and will soon get worse with the proposed mine nerf.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 25 2013 20:22 GMT
#727
We should bring back extended series
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 25 2013 20:22 GMT
#728
On September 26 2013 05:22 Shellshock wrote:
We should bring back extended series

That way people would complain about that instead of us arguing about this.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8246 Posts
September 25 2013 20:23 GMT
#729
On September 26 2013 05:22 Shellshock wrote:
We should bring back extended series

I thought TL was up in arms over that!!! Oh wait...
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 25 2013 20:23 GMT
#730
On September 26 2013 05:20 KingAlphard wrote:
That was one of the best executed all ins I've ever seen. Almost anyone else would have just thrown his army into bunkers and die instantly, or expanded and gone in a macro game from behind. Instead, he did all the damage he could get with those perfectly controlled void rays and oracles while he researched blink which was simply brilliant.

I agree, I even clapped at the end. It was beautiful to watch.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Nauseam
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden191 Posts
September 25 2013 20:24 GMT
#731
On September 26 2013 05:22 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 05:22 Shellshock wrote:
We should bring back extended series

That way people would complain about that instead of us arguing about this.


Arguing? It's just unnecessary whining. They are mad that MC won and need to blame something. If it wasn't the format it would have been something else.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
September 25 2013 20:24 GMT
#732
Ahh, poor Thorzain...

To go 3-2 against MC TvP and yet MC advances while he does not. So sad... unless you're MC!
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
September 25 2013 20:24 GMT
#733
On September 26 2013 05:19 askmc70 wrote:
thorzain all ins mc, no one whines, mc all ins thorzain everyone looses their minds.

everyone? i only see 2-3 ppl complaining
yo
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2013 20:25 GMT
#734
I can't believe people are actually arguing that players should forfeit their first series so they don't have to play in the winners bracket, then win from the losers bracket since it is "easier"

LMFAO.
I come in for the scraps
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 25 2013 20:25 GMT
#735
On September 26 2013 05:24 Nauseam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 05:22 Darkhoarse wrote:
On September 26 2013 05:22 Shellshock wrote:
We should bring back extended series

That way people would complain about that instead of us arguing about this.


Arguing? It's just unnecessary whining. They are mad that MC won and need to blame something. If it wasn't the format it would have been something else.

Yeah whining is probably a better word for it. GG's MC!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 25 2013 20:25 GMT
#736
On September 26 2013 05:22 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 05:22 Shellshock wrote:
We should bring back extended series

That way people would complain about that instead of us arguing about this.

yea it would be pretty funny
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 25 2013 20:25 GMT
#737
On September 26 2013 05:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can't believe people are actually arguing that players should forfeit their first series so they don't have to play in the winners bracket, then win from the losers bracket since it is "easier"

LMFAO.

Just ask Polt, it's the best strategy (clearly)
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8307 Posts
September 25 2013 20:26 GMT
#738
On September 26 2013 05:20 KingAlphard wrote:
That was one of the best executed all ins I've ever seen. Almost anyone else would have just thrown his army into bunkers and die instantly, or expanded and gone in a macro game from behind. Instead, he did all the damage he could get with those perfectly controlled void rays and oracles while he researched blink which was simply brilliant.


All that AND he wasn't afraid to take risks with those VRs and oracles. Getting behind the natural minerals like that was a bold move but it paid off in spades!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
September 25 2013 20:26 GMT
#739
On September 26 2013 05:17 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 05:13 movac wrote:
On September 26 2013 05:10 Zheryn wrote:
Fuck. Just really hopes MC loses in ro8 and loses placement bracket so he doesn't get enough points to surpass Naniwa.


Advancing to the ro8, MC already surpassed Naniwa.


Waat damn, didn't know ro8 gave that many points, fuck.


Yup, he got an extra 300 points by advancing to the ro8, which puts MC at 2775 points.Naniwa is at 2750.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 25 2013 20:26 GMT
#740
On September 26 2013 05:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 05:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can't believe people are actually arguing that players should forfeit their first series so they don't have to play in the winners bracket, then win from the losers bracket since it is "easier"

LMFAO.

Just ask Polt, it's the best strategy (clearly)

It's ok, you won the thread.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
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