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On September 26 2013 05:17 xN.07)MaK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 05:12 chipmonklord17 wrote:On September 26 2013 05:12 THELEHGOTERRAN wrote:Thorzain 3-2!!!  That's the only flaw in this system. Its a shame for Thorzain but it happens It's not the only one. You can qualify by beating the worst in the group (0-2) and not having to meet the best in the group (2-0) with a 2-3 score against the remaining player (1-1, 2-3 in games). Some people are OK with this, but I'm not.
The same can be said for Dreamhack/MLG/IEM Round 64 players where you can get into Round 16 without playing the best players either. So many people QQing because a Korean advanced over an European. If it was the other way around, no one would give a fuck and make these sorry excuses.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:18 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 05:16 Zealously wrote:On September 26 2013 05:15 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 26 2013 05:14 Zealously wrote:On September 26 2013 05:12 Necosarius wrote:
Thorzain goes 3-2 vs mc and is still eliminated :/ MC wins the deciding games and advances - seems fair enough This argument literally comes up in every LR thread in which a player comes back from the loser's match to advance. Let's put it another way then: MC won 2 Bo3s, Thorzain only 1. Does it seem fair that Thorzain would advance over the guy who won more games in the group? MC dodged the strongest player in the group, Thorzain did not Yeah, fair
Oh yeah let's subjectively put MC against the (supposedly) strongest player in the group to make sure the white guy and MC have equal chances of advancing. Equality!
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Canada8160 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:19 askmc70 wrote:
thorzain all ins mc, no one whines, mc all ins thorzain everyone looses their minds.
Yeah actually this is what this thread is full of, I'm happy for the sake of liquibets that MC made it through
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That was one of the best executed all ins I've ever seen. Almost anyone else would have just thrown his army into bunkers and die instantly, or expanded and gone in a macro game from behind. Instead, he did all the damage he could get with those perfectly controlled void rays and oracles while he researched blink which was simply brilliant.
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United States23455 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:19 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 05:17 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 26 2013 05:16 Zealously wrote:On September 26 2013 05:15 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 26 2013 05:14 Zealously wrote:On September 26 2013 05:12 Necosarius wrote:
Thorzain goes 3-2 vs mc and is still eliminated :/ MC wins the deciding games and advances - seems fair enough This argument literally comes up in every LR thread in which a player comes back from the loser's match to advance. Let's put it another way then: MC won 2 Bo3s, Thorzain only 1. Does it seem fair that Thorzain would advance over the guy who won more games in the group? Oh no, I agree with you. I'm just saying some people whine about map score/route the player took. I think if you win 2 bo3's you advance fair and square. Oh, right. It's only ever a issue when someone's favorite player loses, though, which kind of invalidates the criticism TT
Yeah if this had been Thorzain coming through from the loser's match all of these people would be praising his endurance and comeback skill. But since their player lost, it's imba format.
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On September 26 2013 05:19 askmc70 wrote:
thorzain all ins mc, no one whines, mc all ins thorzain everyone looses their minds.
You might be unfamiliar with TvP right now but almost every terran all-ins mid-game.
It's part of the macro game and will soon get worse with the proposed mine nerf.
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United States97277 Posts
We should bring back extended series
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United States23455 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:22 Shellshock wrote:
We should bring back extended series
That way people would complain about that instead of us arguing about this.
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On September 26 2013 05:22 Shellshock wrote:
We should bring back extended series
I thought TL was up in arms over that!!! Oh wait...
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On September 26 2013 05:20 KingAlphard wrote:
That was one of the best executed all ins I've ever seen. Almost anyone else would have just thrown his army into bunkers and die instantly, or expanded and gone in a macro game from behind. Instead, he did all the damage he could get with those perfectly controlled void rays and oracles while he researched blink which was simply brilliant.
I agree, I even clapped at the end. It was beautiful to watch.
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On September 26 2013 05:22 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 05:22 Shellshock wrote:
We should bring back extended series That way people would complain about that instead of us arguing about this.
Arguing? It's just unnecessary whining. They are mad that MC won and need to blame something. If it wasn't the format it would have been something else.
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Ahh, poor Thorzain...
To go 3-2 against MC TvP and yet MC advances while he does not. So sad... unless you're MC!
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On September 26 2013 05:19 askmc70 wrote:
thorzain all ins mc, no one whines, mc all ins thorzain everyone looses their minds.
everyone? i only see 2-3 ppl complaining
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I can't believe people are actually arguing that players should forfeit their first series so they don't have to play in the winners bracket, then win from the losers bracket since it is "easier"
LMFAO.
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United States23455 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:24 Nauseam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 05:22 Darkhoarse wrote:On September 26 2013 05:22 Shellshock wrote:
We should bring back extended series That way people would complain about that instead of us arguing about this. Arguing? It's just unnecessary whining. They are mad that MC won and need to blame something. If it wasn't the format it would have been something else.
Yeah whining is probably a better word for it. GG's MC!
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United States97277 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:22 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 05:22 Shellshock wrote:
We should bring back extended series That way people would complain about that instead of us arguing about this.
yea it would be pretty funny
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United States23455 Posts
On September 26 2013 05:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can't believe people are actually arguing that players should forfeit their first series so they don't have to play in the winners bracket, then win from the losers bracket since it is "easier"
LMFAO.
Just ask Polt, it's the best strategy (clearly)
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On September 26 2013 05:20 KingAlphard wrote:
That was one of the best executed all ins I've ever seen. Almost anyone else would have just thrown his army into bunkers and die instantly, or expanded and gone in a macro game from behind. Instead, he did all the damage he could get with those perfectly controlled void rays and oracles while he researched blink which was simply brilliant.
All that AND he wasn't afraid to take risks with those VRs and oracles. Getting behind the natural minerals like that was a bold move but it paid off in spades!
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On September 26 2013 05:17 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 05:13 movac wrote:On September 26 2013 05:10 Zheryn wrote:
Fuck. Just really hopes MC loses in ro8 and loses placement bracket so he doesn't get enough points to surpass Naniwa. Advancing to the ro8, MC already surpassed Naniwa. Waat damn, didn't know ro8 gave that many points, fuck.
Yup, he got an extra 300 points by advancing to the ro8, which puts MC at 2775 points.Naniwa is at 2750.
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On September 26 2013 05:25 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 05:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can't believe people are actually arguing that players should forfeit their first series so they don't have to play in the winners bracket, then win from the losers bracket since it is "easier"
LMFAO. Just ask Polt, it's the best strategy (clearly)
It's ok, you won the thread.
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