Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Page 5
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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Faster69
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Gibbas
United States11 Posts
The second most important insight from The Dark Knight Returns is The Dark Knight Returns itself. In this age of gritty reboots and the ruining of superheroes to make them darker (i.e. Man of Steel) the darker source material is going to be used most. It doesn't get any darker than TDKReturns. Superman is going to lose. But, chances are they will avoid any sort of definite outcome either way because, for some reason, people seem to blow up on this topic. | ||
Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
On July 22 2013 00:10 agahamsorr0w wrote: seen man of steel? jor el said they stopped space travel programs and settled (humans also settle if u didnt know) . they artificially made babies and gave them a task in their society to fulfill. im sure they programmed everyone to just stay on krypton and defend it. thats why they didnt leave. or it could be that they had nowhere to go and it would take too long to get to planets like earth. zod said they STARVED meaning that if all of krypton went along, noone would have survived if they didnt perform cannibalism. Aside from your speculations about "what they programmed them to do", it didn't stop jor-el to completely overthrow everything and make a baby. The thing is: both jor-el and Zod could engineer that "warp drive" that brought them to earth in almost no time. (Zod states that clarks discovery of the abandoned space ship triggered his visit iirc). So they obv have the tech to fly through space super fast. But this tech is neither used to breed colonists/colonies nor to safe cryptonians. They just sit there and do nothing. It's like they wanted to go extinct. And they also have no one except jor-el to realize that the whole planet breaks apart? what a shitty science caste. (Let alone that utter nonsense of "giving up colonization" because it didn't work the first time.) | ||
Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
Unlike Marvel's Avengers, none of the JL related characters have properly connected stories (Batman, for example, is probably the most disconnected). The combination of Nolan's Batman with pretty much anything is just too stupid for me to even consider watching. I wish this seemingly never-ending circle-jerk would end. Marvel won. /rant. | ||
Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
er- I mean as good. uh, I mean... uh.. what? | ||
gosublade
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On July 22 2013 02:40 EpiK wrote: I really hope Nolan and Bale don't get involved with this. Not entirely sure about Nolan, but Bale has categorically said he's not reprising the role. I doubt Nolan will be involved, either in this or the Justice League movie. They have moved on, which is good. As much as I enjoyed their foray into the comic book genre, they're too good and talented to be tied down. I would prefer to see them move onto more interesting projects. | ||
crms
United States11933 Posts
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GreenGringo
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Look at Star Trek: The Next Generation. All-around fantastic series with one exception: Lieutenant Commander Data was overpowered as a motherfucker. Every crew member's main strength, he had it in greater quantity. He was physically stronger than Worf and could beat him in a fight. He was more creative than Captain Picard and better at solving problems. He had more engineering expertise than Geordi La Forge, more medical expertise than Dr Crusher. The rest of the crew were made redundant. His only weakness is that he didn't know what it means to be "human", and this resulted in some of the worst sentimental schlock in the history of the series, as well as some of the dumbest gimmicks such as that one about the "emotion chip". How much more interesting would it have been if he lacked in some noticeable way such as in creativity...and to solve problems the crew needed to work as a team instead of smartypants Data having the correct answer for everything? | ||
Lylat
France8566 Posts
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Khorrus
Canada15 Posts
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amd098
Korea (North)1366 Posts
On July 22 2013 02:56 Lylat wrote: Hello, quick question I kind of like Marvel universe and I'd like to read the comics, is there a site where we can read them online ? Like mangareader for mangas ? Both marvel and dc have e-comics but you have to buy a subscription/buy them on the comic reader apps on your phone. Otherwise if you read fast you can run to your comic store and read the books there XD I did that for ulimates vol 3... what utter crap. the comic store guy even told me not to buy it, hes like read it first and gave me a chair. i was like, dafuq. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On July 22 2013 01:21 Gibbas wrote: The problem with Superman is they should. When he had troubles in the comics, it was just due to convenience of the writer and illogical design - they had a conclusion in mind and had to create new devices that would lead to it. It semi-works in comics, especially older comics which have lower expectations, but it's hard to translate that stuff into movies. There is no backstory with kryptonite and Batman (in movies) and literally nothing he has should do anything to Superman.I have heard (albeit from comment sections of sketchy-ish tabloid sites) that this film will be based, at least partially, on The Dark Knight Returns. A careful viewing of the previously mentioned film gives some valuable insights to the Batman Vs. Superman matchup. The most important being: Superman doesn't actually know how to fight 1v1. As Andre the Giant pointed out, you use different moves when you have to fight half a dozen men as opposed to only having to worry about one. Brute strength and eye-lazers with no skill behind them don't match up to Batman: Fighting Incarnate. Sort of like PvT. It's a cash grab, and considering it'll be from the same writer as Man of Steel, I'm not sure why anyone would have confidence in it. That said, even re-watching TDKR and part of TDK isn't great. They really had a ton of flaws, even for action movies. I think they were really just carried by tone and brilliant individuals. But sheesh, you really take notice of the criticisms of Nolan on later viewings. And it's almost impossible not to laugh at Christian Bale doing the growly voice. The CollegeHumor guy has his Batman pegged. | ||
Shiori
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That said, even re-watching TDKR and even TDK isn't great. They really had a ton of flaws, even for action movies. I think they were really just carried by tone and brilliant individuals. Depends what you're comparing them to. I thought TDK was pretty good, because it was such a departure from normal action fare. It was kinda like a philosophy-lite version of some of those less-known action-y movies that dare to think outside the box a little. It was shallow compared to an actual high concept film, or compared to an innovative action movie that aims for depth rather than ticket sales, but it was such a massive step up from any previous superhero/comic book movie that it was actually a big deal. At least that's the way I looked at it. The actors/writers were really good at making you think there was a tonne of depth from the trailers/first viewing, even though there actually wasn't much beneath the surface . TDKR was alright. I thought it was a fun watch, but watching it the second time was pretty mediocre. There's really nothing to it other than the big reveal at the end. There were so many interesting social issues they brought up, but at the beginning of the third act they literally just abandoned all of them in the most moronic way possible (jk guys Bane is actually just evil not trying to fix anything kekekeke) for the sake of simplicity. | ||
GreenGringo
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Starp
Canada199 Posts
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