EPTFirst for me is Fuba. Check out his long post his only suspect has been Vayne and with his answer he takes some time to defend himself and waffles on Vayne. Very noncommittal, doesn't really pressure and has been mia. I haven't played with Fuba in ages but I remember him being much more active. Do you think he's strapped for time and town or a scummer getting by due to the relative inactivity.
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
First for me is Fuba. Check out his long post his only suspect has been Vayne and with his answer he takes some time to defend himself and waffles on Vayne. Very noncommittal, doesn't really pressure and has been mia. I haven't played with Fuba in ages but I remember him being much more active. Do you think he's strapped for time and town or a scummer getting by due to the relative inactivity. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On June 05 2013 09:31 Stutters695 wrote: :popcorn: Who wants to talk? ill bite who do you think is the scummiest so far? What do you think about a scum s0lstice. Do you think Sentinels little vote. His lack of conviction bothers me. On June 05 2013 09:49 JarJarDrinks wrote: So are you thinking Zeph is scum since you somwhat like prplz case? How about stutters? Do you think he's just mistaken or are you leaning scum on him? Or like, do you have an opinion on anybody aside from the guy you're OMGUSing? Zeph looks alright I like his last post some scum would just be happy that someone is sheeping them. But when Sentinel throws a vote on Wos. Zeph is more concerned with getting actually content from Sentinel rather then where his vote lies. On stutters cases I think prphz has explained him self well. There was a bit of misunderstanding with the cases he choice. But explained it fine. I'm null on stutters atm. I can and will OMGUS scum have a great attraction to trying to lynch me. So i will use it against them. Also remember Layabout was the first person to pressure me as scum. But I think the way S0lstice sheeped it and the way he went at makes him scummy. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On June 05 2013 10:55 Stutters695 wrote: Well I don't have the time to do detailed analysis of everyone I want to look into right now but let's bounce some suspects. First for me is Fuba. Check out his long post his only suspect has been Vayne and with his answer he takes some time to defend himself and waffles on Vayne. Very noncommittal, doesn't really pressure and has been mia. I haven't played with Fuba in ages but I remember him being much more active. Do you think he's strapped for time and town or a scummer getting by due to the relative inactivity. I am waiting to see more from him but he's definitely on my radar, I am reading the thread just don't have much to contribute right now. These metagames and pointless accusations this early bore me. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On June 05 2013 10:57 VayneAuthority wrote: I am waiting to see more from him but he's definitely on my radar, I am reading the thread just don't have much to contribute right now. These metagames and pointless accusations this early bore me. Well how would you start day 1. I stuggle day one because there is no content to go off of. And the whole purpose is to create content. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
His reply was this: Town motivation was literally asking questions of people to try and divine their alignment. Knowing how both JJD and Vayne played scum last game, I was curious if their answers towards my questions would help me figure out anything about the way they would be playing this game. If you choose to ignore this point then that's your prerogative. As far as new things brought, I brought plenty of new things to the table, including the suspicion and discussion towards me. Any discussion is good discussion on D1 even if the subject is somewhat misguided; it will allow people to get reads of me, with which I am fine. I consider my own townplay perfectly good and accomplishing exactly what I have set out to do, whilst being completely transparent in my thought processes in the meantime. Basically he's saying that by accusing him it stirs up discussion. But why? If attention is on him, as town it's crappy play because it distracts others from finding scum, and as scum he can WIFOM his way to finding a different lynch target. I don't think perfectly good townplay involves painting yourself red to see who comes out of the woodwork. This is where Zeph comes in to push WoS's intentions and WoS retorts that it's scummy to lynch him after he's explained his motivations. I find his motivations scummy however, hence I want to lynch him. Of course, WoS, I would be more than happy to see some of your scumreads and a FOS if it is too early to place a vote on someone. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On June 05 2013 10:59 jaybrundage wrote: Well how would you start day 1. I stuggle day one because there is no content to go off of. And the whole purpose is to create content. I suppose, a flip/voting/night kills will help me greatly | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
I would probably lynch him currently. He's not this inactive usually and it worries me. At this rate we're going to excuse half the thread for lurking and I'd rather not lynch into people who are here to read. I guess that applies to everyone though, I fucking hate day 1 | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On June 05 2013 11:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I had problems with his lurker policy lynching (goes against my best interests, I lurk with pride) as well as asking people whether his play was scummy or not. His reply was this: Basically he's saying that by accusing him it stirs up discussion. But why? If attention is on him, as town it's crappy play because it distracts others from finding scum, and as scum he can WIFOM his way to finding a different lynch target. I don't think perfectly good townplay involves painting yourself red to see who comes out of the woodwork. This is where Zeph comes in to push WoS's intentions and WoS retorts that it's scummy to lynch him after he's explained his motivations. I find his motivations scummy however, hence I want to lynch him. Of course, WoS, I would be more than happy to see some of your scumreads and a FOS if it is too early to place a vote on someone. The intent wasn't to make people accuse me or 'paint myself red' but at least in saying what I did it generated discussion. I found what Zeph said scummy in that he continued to accuse me before reading my latest explanation; if you'd read our exchange you would have already read that. I don't have any particularly strong scumreads and I don't usually on D1, so if by leaving your vote on me you think it will pressure me to do so or you will lynch a scum I regret to inform you that you are wrong on both counts. The only person I find particularly scummy atm is jaybrundage however I have been informed that he is 'lynchbait' and as such we should just give him a free pass. Who am I to argue with better players such as Vivax? | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On June 05 2013 11:05 Stutters695 wrote: Hit send before typing the second paragraph: I would probably lynch him currently. He's not this inactive usually and it worries me. At this rate we're going to excuse half the thread for lurking and I'd rather not lynch into people who are here to read. I guess that applies to everyone though, I fucking hate day 1 Well saying lets lynch a lurker usually isnt good play but the town atmosphere is pretty damn quiet. Yes some people have given excuses which prolly are true. But regardless if we dont set a precedent of being an active town. Lurking is gonna kill us. And i would prefer to nail it in peoples heads that we can not and will not allow hardcore lurking. I would not be surprised at all if half if not more of the mafia are lurking atm. Also do you wanna lynch S0lstice with meh? | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
I'm not too keen on a scum s0l currently. The points you and Vivax made make sense but his most recent post gives me pause. He called out Vivax's dismissal of my Prplhz case almost exactly how I would have but at the same time in that post he doesn't actually comment on it, just that he'd check out the meta later, which still hasn't happened. Would really like to hear his side soon. More to come | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
He's here though so I'd like to hear his thoughts on the day in general but I'd put him under s0l in terms of who I'd lynch. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On June 05 2013 11:51 Stutters695 wrote: What are your thoughts on Fuba, too early to tell? Looking over Fuba I actually really dont like it so far. First off he is barely posting. He comes in drops a single question. Leaves comes back and goes back and forth over the point of how this game isnt that far with a normal set up. While I agree with his point that this is not very far from a normal set up and we should just play normally and hunt scum the fact that he lingers over this the entire post and how we shouldn't worry about roles cause claims wont matter and blah blah blah. I agree with his post. Just the fact that that is the only content he has bugs me to death. And after he goes over all of this with vayne. It doesnt even matter btw cause its a null tell. He says he doesn't find anyone scummy and peaces out. I can definitely see him as scum and an alternative to the S0lstice lynch. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
And my point regarding vayne is simply that his perspective on the game is different than my own. His comment really stuck out to me, because I saw no reason to change my playstyle based on this setup. I have yet to decide if that's simply because he's a different player, or if it's because he's playing for a different team. If you're looking for me to call someone scum D1, it's unlikely going to happen. @jaybrundage: If you see me as possibly scum for what I've said, what do you think about vayne himself? His contributions consist of: a very thorough response to a nonsense question, saying he doesn't like meta, pointing out that I questioned him, and then saying I'm on his radar. I actually see little to distinguish his play from mine aside from post count. "I like to to call that illusionary participation unless thats common for him or something" | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
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Stutters695
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
His contributions have been setup speculation, and a random vote on WoS, and defending mkfuba for basically no reason. Scum love to defend people cause it makes them look good. He never explained his vote and he doesnt seem intent to. WAGON OF JUSTICE! | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
Also, where are you Ace? | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
Who I want to lynch: [UoN]Sentinel I think his approach to Ace's claim post was skewed. Why bother pointing out that the plan is not as gamebreaking as it initially seemed? He questions the plan, but doesn't offer up why it is detrimental to agree to it, nor does he offer a better plan as an alternative. Seems more likely an approach scum would take rather than town. He voting for WoS is weak. 1) WoS wants to lynch a lurker. Sentinel is a lurker so he doesn't like this. Nothing here that indicates WoS is scum. 2) WoS doesn't ask people if he is scummy, he asks a couple of players who recently played scum with him what their opinion of his play is. 3) It is a very uninvested vote. He doesn't express a desire to get WoS lynched (only provides explanation for the sake of himself, not to convince others to vote him), and neglects to talk about any other suspects. ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel jaybrundage With regards to jay, I don't see the issue. On June 04 2013 09:29 layabout wrote: If you say that you arent going to post, pressuring you for a contribution serves no purpose for a townie And yet because of his post Vayne posted. Given that layabout, the origin of the push, has been so detached about it is another reason why I'm not interested in this lynch. s0lstice I think solstice's case on jay was good effort, and understandable where he is coming from, even though I don't agree with it. Probably because I've played with jay (Nomination I believe), and am more inclined to give him slack for self degradation (I treat it as a null). I've liked his activity and general thoughts so far, not sure why he is being discussed as lynch. Vote Count Error On June 05 2013 07:49 Dandel Ion wrote: WaveOfShadow (3): Ace, WaveofShadow, [UoN]Sentinel WoS is voted by Zephirdd not himself. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
Stutters, look at Ace's filter and tell me that there are people like him in this game. | ||
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