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opterown
Australia54741 Posts
On May 07 2013 21:13 teddyoojo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:12 opterown wrote:On May 07 2013 21:05 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On May 07 2013 21:03 BakedButters wrote: This game was a good game, very back and forth. I think a lot of you guys are thinking a lot more on the mistakes and poor plays due to these two casting duels who are both analysis casters.
Asxlav solo casting Suppy and Heart only complimented both players plays in their back and forth games and was a great shoutcaster as well.
I think Woltosis made this group very boring. Not saying that these players played great, but these are still Code S players and I think you guys underappreciate the power of an enthusiastic shoutcaster like Tasteless The level of play axslav is casting cant be compared to that. There is also no way that he is a better player than Artosis Wolf Khaldor Tasteless. i think axslav is a better player than all four you mentioned i actually think artosis might be better :D wolf and khaldor arent too bad i think but tasteless is pretty low :D axslav is/was actually a pro though and i think he still plays more than any of these guys
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
I think Wolf does a great job but Tasteless just supplements Artosis' style better. Would love to hear how Tasteless + Wolf do. Still very enjoyable casting today.
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On May 07 2013 21:13 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:12 Grovbolle wrote:On May 07 2013 21:11 Grovbolle wrote:Final match Game 1 - Akilon wastes Flying vs. RorOFlying top left Roro bottom right 14-pool for roro 17 nexus and forge 2:30 hatch for roro. FFE Flying. 3:30 Gate and cannon at the front. Double gas in the back for flying 4:00 3rd Hatch for RorO 4:30 Core for flying. Wall completed 5:30 Stargate goes down for flying. Double gas on the way for RorO 6:30 Lots of drones for RorO 7:00 Roach warren for RorO. First phoenix kills an overlord. 2nd on the way. 7:30 Robo goes down for flying, ling speed for RorO.
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On May 07 2013 21:06 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:02 Dodgin wrote:On May 07 2013 21:01 heartagram wrote:On May 07 2013 21:00 EpiK wrote: well, this series confirmed that roro knows how to lategame zvt and that yoda is overrated He's pretty good by esf standards. Definitely on the same level as Bomber and Gumiho. that's an insult to bomber and gumiho they are so much better than what was displayed here B-but.. not a 'bombing' bomber...
Well to do a bomber you have to get a lead before.
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On May 07 2013 21:12 FeyFey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:08 Dodgin wrote:On May 07 2013 21:06 Ryps wrote: Just one game and now people thinks ultras OP ? have you not seen Innovation's extreme zerg rape ? Innovation usually ends the game before Zerg is able to get this mass ultra + queen composition which seems really good with the near-infinite healing. Love his Mine and Marine drops. But his mine control overall is scary, and he isn't loosing 6+ mines to a few banelings, like most Terrans do. So I can understand why his opponents aren't able to get there.
He plays completly differently from what Yoda did. He does not go for those two basish tech openings and goes for very fast 3bases (often CC first) and uses his drops and pressure to get more bases. He just builds way more stuff.
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On May 07 2013 21:12 papaz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:05 opterown wrote: for everyone who got into SC2 without a BW background, how did you guys choose your favourite KeSPA teams? curious, since I haven't really become as invested in any KeSPA team as my favourite players otherwise I found a player that had a great style and from there I found my favourite team. It started off by watching Flash and I was like daaaaiiiiiimmmmmm. And then I started to like Zest. And from there it was KT_Rolster fighting!
You mean Wooki
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On May 07 2013 21:07 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:06 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:On May 07 2013 21:02 Dodgin wrote:On May 07 2013 21:01 heartagram wrote:On May 07 2013 21:00 EpiK wrote: well, this series confirmed that roro knows how to lategame zvt and that yoda is overrated He's pretty good by esf standards. Definitely on the same level as Bomber and Gumiho. that's an insult to bomber and gumiho they are so much better than what was displayed here B-but.. not a 'bombing' bomber... Shhh, don't even mention that. It makes poor Bomber fans sad.
I'm sad
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On May 07 2013 21:07 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:05 graNite wrote:On May 07 2013 21:03 Bagi wrote:On May 07 2013 21:01 graNite wrote:On May 07 2013 20:58 Bagi wrote:On May 07 2013 20:56 graNite wrote:i wish terran had spellcasters and lategame units on tvz,too Yeah ravens totally suck now... Are you serious? have you ever tried ravens vs ultras? yes, i am serious. i play bio in tvz and go for mass ravens when i have too much gas, but the seeker missles do nothing vs ultras Well it's the one unit they don't counter. They are still amazing against air zerg, and could be used to snipe queens and infestors against that unit comp if Yoda hadn't been so low econ. fungal and queens kill ravens when you hit your seeker missles. you kill some stuff with them, but then they are gone. they can not retreat as easily as infestors on creep Roro was just being more cost efficient than Yoda in the entire game. Stopping every drops and picking army and SCVs along the way. Roro was starving out Yoda in the end. I guess you haven't watch Bomber games. Seeker missiles into Medivac and kamekaze them into the zerg army.
i am talking about in tvz in general. the medivac kamikaze still doenst kill utras...
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Austria24416 Posts
On May 07 2013 21:14 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:12 [OGN]Remmy wrote:On May 07 2013 21:09 FakeDeath wrote: I guess it was a matter of time.
Kespa player will soon reign over the rest. yeah. See those famous esf players goes for EU, AM and so. LOL mvp and nestea are the only esf koreans to switch (and violet i guess but he's american already)
well, a squad of MVP players also switched I think. Didn't finale with his silly new ID and Tails qualify for Challenger Division recently?
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On May 07 2013 21:14 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:12 [OGN]Remmy wrote:On May 07 2013 21:09 FakeDeath wrote: I guess it was a matter of time.
Kespa player will soon reign over the rest. yeah. See those famous esf players goes for EU, AM and so. LOL mvp and nestea are the only esf koreans to switch (and violet i guess but he's american already)
Taeja just made it through AM challenger league qualifier
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On May 07 2013 21:14 Grovbolle wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:13 Grovbolle wrote:On May 07 2013 21:12 Grovbolle wrote:On May 07 2013 21:11 Grovbolle wrote:Final match Game 1 - Akilon wastes Flying vs. RorOFlying top left Roro bottom right 14-pool for roro 17 nexus and forge 2:30 hatch for roro. FFE Flying. 3:30 Gate and cannon at the front. Double gas in the back for flying 4:00 3rd Hatch for RorO 4:30 Core for flying. Wall completed 5:30 Stargate goes down for flying. Double gas on the way for RorO 6:30 Lots of drones for RorO 7:00 Roach warren for RorO. First phoenix kills an overlord. 2nd on the way. 7:30 Robo goes down for flying, ling speed for RorO. 8:00 3 more gates for Flying +1 attack and mothership core on the way with immortal also. 8:30 RorO moving out with a few roaches/lings. 9:00 RorO attacks the front of flying, kills the forge but loses a lot.
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France9034 Posts
On May 07 2013 21:15 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:12 papaz wrote:On May 07 2013 21:05 opterown wrote: for everyone who got into SC2 without a BW background, how did you guys choose your favourite KeSPA teams? curious, since I haven't really become as invested in any KeSPA team as my favourite players otherwise I found a player that had a great style and from there I found my favourite team. It started off by watching Flash and I was like daaaaiiiiiimmmmmm. And then I started to like Zest. And from there it was KT_Rolster fighting! You mean Wooki
I think he meant someone else... mmmh P7GAB ?
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On May 07 2013 21:09 EpiK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:05 duckmaster wrote:On May 07 2013 21:00 Jarree wrote: Wolf+Artosis sick good combo, finally code s level casting. I find it pretty tiring to listen to all the criticism, stuff like "he should've targeted the heal on that medivac". I miss the positivity and energy Tasteless brings to the cast I love the criticism. If a player does something wrong, he should be called out on it. Tasteless and a lot of other casters are overly positive sometimes and either praise really banal moves or try to sugarcoat a shitty decision. It's far more enjoyable if the casters are just honest with how they truly feel about the players' decision. They're not fooling anyone with the superficial upbeatness. To everyone new to TL, this comment is SO HIGH LEVEL.
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opterown
Australia54741 Posts
On May 07 2013 21:16 heartagram wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:14 opterown wrote:On May 07 2013 21:12 [OGN]Remmy wrote:On May 07 2013 21:09 FakeDeath wrote: I guess it was a matter of time.
Kespa player will soon reign over the rest. yeah. See those famous esf players goes for EU, AM and so. LOL mvp and nestea are the only esf koreans to switch (and violet i guess but he's american already) Taeja just made it through AM challenger league qualifier taeja is not esf
On May 07 2013 21:16 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:14 opterown wrote:On May 07 2013 21:12 [OGN]Remmy wrote:On May 07 2013 21:09 FakeDeath wrote: I guess it was a matter of time.
Kespa player will soon reign over the rest. yeah. See those famous esf players goes for EU, AM and so. LOL mvp and nestea are the only esf koreans to switch (and violet i guess but he's american already) well, a squad of MVP players also switched I think. Didn't finale with his silly new ID and Tails qualify for Challenger Division recently? oh, true
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Austria24416 Posts
On May 07 2013 21:16 heartagram wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:14 opterown wrote:On May 07 2013 21:12 [OGN]Remmy wrote:On May 07 2013 21:09 FakeDeath wrote: I guess it was a matter of time.
Kespa player will soon reign over the rest. yeah. See those famous esf players goes for EU, AM and so. LOL mvp and nestea are the only esf koreans to switch (and violet i guess but he's american already) Taeja just made it through AM challenger league qualifier
TL and EG are not esf teams.
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France9034 Posts
On May 07 2013 21:16 heartagram wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:14 opterown wrote:On May 07 2013 21:12 [OGN]Remmy wrote:On May 07 2013 21:09 FakeDeath wrote: I guess it was a matter of time.
Kespa player will soon reign over the rest. yeah. See those famous esf players goes for EU, AM and so. LOL mvp and nestea are the only esf koreans to switch (and violet i guess but he's american already) Taeja just made it through AM challenger league qualifier
Since when is Liquid part of the eSF ?
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Artosis finds Roro's lack of faith disturbing
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On May 07 2013 21:16 heartagram wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:14 opterown wrote:On May 07 2013 21:12 [OGN]Remmy wrote:On May 07 2013 21:09 FakeDeath wrote: I guess it was a matter of time.
Kespa player will soon reign over the rest. yeah. See those famous esf players goes for EU, AM and so. LOL mvp and nestea are the only esf koreans to switch (and violet i guess but he's american already) Taeja just made it through AM challenger league qualifier
He isn't esf
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Wtf why did he attack into that Oo
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49429 Posts
On May 07 2013 21:15 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 21:12 papaz wrote:On May 07 2013 21:05 opterown wrote: for everyone who got into SC2 without a BW background, how did you guys choose your favourite KeSPA teams? curious, since I haven't really become as invested in any KeSPA team as my favourite players otherwise I found a player that had a great style and from there I found my favourite team. It started off by watching Flash and I was like daaaaiiiiiimmmmmm. And then I started to like Zest. And from there it was KT_Rolster fighting! You mean Wooki
hes new, no point drilling it into him, although call if you stats carno I will throw you.
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