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On April 01 2013 10:46 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 10:37 iamho wrote:
Holy shit dude, 5 years from now nobody will give a shit about where you went to college, and neither will you. No offense but you sound like one of those entitled suburban kids whose world revolves around "prestige." Nobody cares in the real world. I mean, I'm suburban, but I'm not entitled, though in this blog I may sound like it since this was a venting blog. I've been told that in 5 years grad school will care, and other people tell me no one will care, and others tell me that college was all that mattered to them. I'm pretty conflicted, which is partially why I wrote this. If no one cares in the real world, and I haven't been to "the real world" job wise since I'm still in the highschool-college-grad school part of my life, then I have nothing to worry about. On the other hand, other people where I live tell me the real world revolves around college and grad school. It is a lot of conflicting info.
Depends on what the "real world" is to you. There are some jobs that do care about your GPA and where you went to school (though I think all of this is less important than "experience"). Most jobs just want to see that you have a degree and a decent work ethic (which they see through decent grades).
EDIT: The place where college and grad school matter the most = academia. Which is not "real world" by any stretch of the imagination.
EDIT 2: Considering that 90-95% of the population will not have gone to a prestigious Ivy League-caliber college and are getting along just fine, I think that you have your answer about whether or not college and grad school matter.
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On April 01 2013 10:48 LosingID8 wrote:
Being in IB does help you assuming you get all As with a smattering of Bs in those classes. But having a 4.0 unweighted as an IB diploma candidate will not gain you admittance to the caliber of schools you were applying to if you have a sub-2000 SAT. Someone already mentioned it but the SAT really held you back. If you had gotten a 2100+ I bet you would be in a different situation right now, as you probably would have gotten into at least one of the schools on your list. I speak from personal experience, as I did the IB diploma too. I was rejected from Claremont McKenna and Pomona College, probably due to my SAT scores (1420/1600 on the old scale).
My friend was a top 10 cross country runner in the state of WA, was a fantastic writer with state and national awards for her essays, did full IB with a 3.9 unweighted GPA, and had a 2390 SAT. She was rejected from Stanford and she was devastated. And this was back in 2006 when admissions were less competitive than they are now.
The important thing to learn from her situation is how she responded. She ended up at USC on academic scholarship, competed in USC track and XC and graduated with a 3.9 in EE and is now doing her PhD in robotics at UCSD. Make the most of your opportunities.
Besides, it looks like your IB curriculum paid off after all, seeing as you got some nice scholarships to other schools you applied to.
I see that now to a large extent. The IB ended up hurting me since I had to skip some years in Spanish and since the IB at my school isn't fully panned out I'm the second class to go through it in fact. Basically they changed the grading scale up on us a bunch of time which hurt. I think if my SAT had been higher it would have been better for sure. I also know that how I respond is what matters now, I need to get into the schools that waitlisted me, I.E. University of Miami, and Tufts.
@babylon
Yeah academia definitely is not the real world, though I do wonder where the dividing line is.
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On April 01 2013 07:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
you really do write some of the worst blogs
Carnivorous Sheep, to say that you would have had to have read multiples which just shows that you have nothing better to do than to hate on 18 yr. old kids. I don't want to be a total douche, but you might want to reconsider your life choices if bullying kids in the online playground is your activity of choice. Look, docvoc, it didn't work out. That sucks, but it happens to everyone. Hate to be cheesy, but when life gives you lemons you have got to make lemonade...and what you are doing is cutting up the lemons and sticking them to your eyes. No need to give yourself or the college admissions people thirty-lashings for not ending up at the schools you wanted. Be grateful for the blessing of the scholarships you did get, some don't even get that. Just know that there is most likely a bigger plan.
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On April 01 2013 11:05 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 10:48 LosingID8 wrote:
Being in IB does help you assuming you get all As with a smattering of Bs in those classes. But having a 4.0 unweighted as an IB diploma candidate will not gain you admittance to the caliber of schools you were applying to if you have a sub-2000 SAT. Someone already mentioned it but the SAT really held you back. If you had gotten a 2100+ I bet you would be in a different situation right now, as you probably would have gotten into at least one of the schools on your list. I speak from personal experience, as I did the IB diploma too. I was rejected from Claremont McKenna and Pomona College, probably due to my SAT scores (1420/1600 on the old scale).
My friend was a top 10 cross country runner in the state of WA, was a fantastic writer with state and national awards for her essays, did full IB with a 3.9 unweighted GPA, and had a 2390 SAT. She was rejected from Stanford and she was devastated. And this was back in 2006 when admissions were less competitive than they are now.
The important thing to learn from her situation is how she responded. She ended up at USC on academic scholarship, competed in USC track and XC and graduated with a 3.9 in EE and is now doing her PhD in robotics at UCSD. Make the most of your opportunities.
Besides, it looks like your IB curriculum paid off after all, seeing as you got some nice scholarships to other schools you applied to. I see that now to a large extent. The IB ended up hurting me since I had to skip some years in Spanish and since the IB at my school isn't fully panned out I'm the second class to go through it in fact. Basically they changed the grading scale up on us a bunch of time which hurt. I think if my SAT had been higher it would have been better for sure. I also know that how I respond is what matters now, I need to get into the schools that waitlisted me, I.E. University of Miami, and Tufts. @babylon Yeah academia definitely is not the real world, though I do wonder where the dividing line is. Guess what, guys... we haven't invented the matrix yet. Academic, plumber, politician, lawyer, astronaut, nurse, sweatshop worker, opera singer, heiress, farmer. Every one of those people is living in the real world, doing real world stuff.
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On April 01 2013 11:07 Just_got_to_breathe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 07:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
you really do write some of the worst blogs Carnivorous Sheep, to say that you would have had to have read multiples which just shows that you have nothing better to do than to hate on 18 yr. old kids. I don't want to be a total douche, but you might want to reconsider your life choices if bullying kids in the online playground is your activity of choice.
o ok
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On April 01 2013 10:03 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 07:45 GMarshal wrote:On April 01 2013 06:43 docvoc wrote:On April 01 2013 06:13 micronesia wrote:
Maybe I misunderstood, but did you apply to any safety schools that you knew you would get in to for sure? I did, I'm into 3 schools outright, none of which I want to go to. I got a free ride, a 1/2 or 3/4 ride and a 1/3 ride to each of my 3 safety schools. I'm disappointed I didn't get into anywhere that I thought I could. I thought I was prestigious school material. Let me tell you a secret. It doesn't matter where you go. It matters how hard you work and who you meet along the way. Find your passions, work hard at them, and avoid racking up an insane college debt. With the money you save going to a full ride college, you can open your own business in whatever you love, or failing that fill your free time with activities related to what you want to do with the rest of your life. What college you go to only determines how "fun" the next four years are for you, what you do over those four years, especially how hard you work, will determine what you do for the rest of your life. Choose wisely. I'm going to do this. My friends keep telling me to do this, and though I know I should, it is hard not to mope. I wrote this blog to let out these feelings, and I know they are more than a tinge overreactionary; however, getting rejection letters from 8 schools where I thought I would get into one of them because I had been told how much colleges love the IB, and where I see my friends with similar GPA's and scores have gotten into. I'll admit a lot of those schools were longshots too. Thanks for the advice GMarshal. I know you are right, and that my friends are right, I just have this feeling of regret. EDIT: To those of you saying that this is an emo-rant or that I need to get over myself, etc. This post was written after a week of not being able to sleep or eat. Since I joined the IB I was promised that if I got A's and B's (which I had until recently when I got .1 shy of a B in math during a hard time in my life) I had a 4.23 weighted GPA and a bad SAT score in a 1920 but I did well on my SAT 2's with a 700 in U.S. history being my best score. I did not write this as a polished work. I wrote this trying to channel the rest of my negative feelings onto a page. Though the negative comments are welcome to show me how silly I've been feeling. I wrote this to evoke feelings in the reader, which it obviously did. No this is not my best work, but I wrote this to put my feelings out there before I write my next college blog which will be about where I should go from my options. This blog was not some emo-rant, this blog is a blog about feeling disappointed in myself about how I have done and the hand I've been dealt. Don't be so presumptuous to think I thought I was going to get into all of those colleges, I thought I would get into 1 of the many. Could I have done better in highschool. Yes. Could I have not let the hard times overcome me when I needed to stay strong? Yes. Did I? To some extent, but I learned from that, which is what highschool is about in my opinion. Also, on this point, there is a lot that I have not written in my blogs about my background that make things make a bit more sense, but that I don't want to put down because it's just that, background info. I don't want to see a response with that, I want a response based on what I write. Also, to BH, yes Persians pick caucasian on the common app, but no there are subdivisions of that pick which drastically change acceptance rates. It is a well known fact that certain races have harder times getting into college, that is not racist. I'm not racist for calling something like that out, and while college acceptances are a lottery, it is frustrating to know that a lot of college lotterying is based on what they want for diversity reasons.
...So, this is an emo rant?
Really man, you shouldn't be so down, especially since your worries and complaints are that trivial. You got a full ride, which is absolutely HUGE. In terms of your life prospects, which undergraduate institution you attend really doesn't make a huge difference. How hard you work in college and how you channel that into a successful after-college experience is what matters.
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On April 01 2013 11:53 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 10:03 docvoc wrote:On April 01 2013 07:45 GMarshal wrote:On April 01 2013 06:43 docvoc wrote:On April 01 2013 06:13 micronesia wrote:
Maybe I misunderstood, but did you apply to any safety schools that you knew you would get in to for sure? I did, I'm into 3 schools outright, none of which I want to go to. I got a free ride, a 1/2 or 3/4 ride and a 1/3 ride to each of my 3 safety schools. I'm disappointed I didn't get into anywhere that I thought I could. I thought I was prestigious school material. Let me tell you a secret. It doesn't matter where you go. It matters how hard you work and who you meet along the way. Find your passions, work hard at them, and avoid racking up an insane college debt. With the money you save going to a full ride college, you can open your own business in whatever you love, or failing that fill your free time with activities related to what you want to do with the rest of your life. What college you go to only determines how "fun" the next four years are for you, what you do over those four years, especially how hard you work, will determine what you do for the rest of your life. Choose wisely. I'm going to do this. My friends keep telling me to do this, and though I know I should, it is hard not to mope. I wrote this blog to let out these feelings, and I know they are more than a tinge overreactionary; however, getting rejection letters from 8 schools where I thought I would get into one of them because I had been told how much colleges love the IB, and where I see my friends with similar GPA's and scores have gotten into. I'll admit a lot of those schools were longshots too. Thanks for the advice GMarshal. I know you are right, and that my friends are right, I just have this feeling of regret. EDIT: To those of you saying that this is an emo-rant or that I need to get over myself, etc. This post was written after a week of not being able to sleep or eat. Since I joined the IB I was promised that if I got A's and B's (which I had until recently when I got .1 shy of a B in math during a hard time in my life) I had a 4.23 weighted GPA and a bad SAT score in a 1920 but I did well on my SAT 2's with a 700 in U.S. history being my best score. I did not write this as a polished work. I wrote this trying to channel the rest of my negative feelings onto a page. Though the negative comments are welcome to show me how silly I've been feeling. I wrote this to evoke feelings in the reader, which it obviously did. No this is not my best work, but I wrote this to put my feelings out there before I write my next college blog which will be about where I should go from my options. This blog was not some emo-rant, this blog is a blog about feeling disappointed in myself about how I have done and the hand I've been dealt. Don't be so presumptuous to think I thought I was going to get into all of those colleges, I thought I would get into 1 of the many. Could I have done better in highschool. Yes. Could I have not let the hard times overcome me when I needed to stay strong? Yes. Did I? To some extent, but I learned from that, which is what highschool is about in my opinion. Also, on this point, there is a lot that I have not written in my blogs about my background that make things make a bit more sense, but that I don't want to put down because it's just that, background info. I don't want to see a response with that, I want a response based on what I write. Also, to BH, yes Persians pick caucasian on the common app, but no there are subdivisions of that pick which drastically change acceptance rates. It is a well known fact that certain races have harder times getting into college, that is not racist. I'm not racist for calling something like that out, and while college acceptances are a lottery, it is frustrating to know that a lot of college lotterying is based on what they want for diversity reasons. ...So, this is an emo rant? Really man, you shouldn't be so down, especially since your worries and complaints are that trivial. You got a full ride, which is absolutely HUGE. In terms of your life prospects, which undergraduate institution you attend really doesn't make a huge difference. How hard you work in college and how you channel that into a successful after-college experience is what matters.
Idk why my body reacted that way. It's possible that I caught a bug since my immune system is down a lot due to stress and it's also passover which limits my diet a lot. I shouldn't be so down. You guys have definitely beaten that into me, and I'm not nearly as glum as I was before. I should thank you guys for that. I realize now that it is success, how hard I work for it, in college not where I go that matters.
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On April 01 2013 11:59 docvoc wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 11:53 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 01 2013 10:03 docvoc wrote:On April 01 2013 07:45 GMarshal wrote:On April 01 2013 06:43 docvoc wrote:On April 01 2013 06:13 micronesia wrote:
Maybe I misunderstood, but did you apply to any safety schools that you knew you would get in to for sure? I did, I'm into 3 schools outright, none of which I want to go to. I got a free ride, a 1/2 or 3/4 ride and a 1/3 ride to each of my 3 safety schools. I'm disappointed I didn't get into anywhere that I thought I could. I thought I was prestigious school material. Let me tell you a secret. It doesn't matter where you go. It matters how hard you work and who you meet along the way. Find your passions, work hard at them, and avoid racking up an insane college debt. With the money you save going to a full ride college, you can open your own business in whatever you love, or failing that fill your free time with activities related to what you want to do with the rest of your life. What college you go to only determines how "fun" the next four years are for you, what you do over those four years, especially how hard you work, will determine what you do for the rest of your life. Choose wisely. I'm going to do this. My friends keep telling me to do this, and though I know I should, it is hard not to mope. I wrote this blog to let out these feelings, and I know they are more than a tinge overreactionary; however, getting rejection letters from 8 schools where I thought I would get into one of them because I had been told how much colleges love the IB, and where I see my friends with similar GPA's and scores have gotten into. I'll admit a lot of those schools were longshots too. Thanks for the advice GMarshal. I know you are right, and that my friends are right, I just have this feeling of regret. EDIT: To those of you saying that this is an emo-rant or that I need to get over myself, etc. This post was written after a week of not being able to sleep or eat. Since I joined the IB I was promised that if I got A's and B's (which I had until recently when I got .1 shy of a B in math during a hard time in my life) I had a 4.23 weighted GPA and a bad SAT score in a 1920 but I did well on my SAT 2's with a 700 in U.S. history being my best score. I did not write this as a polished work. I wrote this trying to channel the rest of my negative feelings onto a page. Though the negative comments are welcome to show me how silly I've been feeling. I wrote this to evoke feelings in the reader, which it obviously did. No this is not my best work, but I wrote this to put my feelings out there before I write my next college blog which will be about where I should go from my options. This blog was not some emo-rant, this blog is a blog about feeling disappointed in myself about how I have done and the hand I've been dealt. Don't be so presumptuous to think I thought I was going to get into all of those colleges, I thought I would get into 1 of the many. Could I have done better in highschool. Yes. Could I have not let the hard times overcome me when I needed to stay strong? Yes. Did I? To some extent, but I learned from that, which is what highschool is about in my opinion. Also, on this point, there is a lot that I have not written in my blogs about my background that make things make a bit more sense, but that I don't want to put down because it's just that, background info. I don't want to see a response with that, I want a response based on what I write. Also, to BH, yes Persians pick caucasian on the common app, but no there are subdivisions of that pick which drastically change acceptance rates. It is a well known fact that certain races have harder times getting into college, that is not racist. I'm not racist for calling something like that out, and while college acceptances are a lottery, it is frustrating to know that a lot of college lotterying is based on what they want for diversity reasons. ...So, this is an emo rant? Really man, you shouldn't be so down, especially since your worries and complaints are that trivial. You got a full ride, which is absolutely HUGE. In terms of your life prospects, which undergraduate institution you attend really doesn't make a huge difference. How hard you work in college and how you channel that into a successful after-college experience is what matters. Idk why my body reacted that way. It's possible that I caught a bug since my immune system is down a lot due to stress and it's also passover which limits my diet a lot. I shouldn't be so down. You guys have definitely beaten that into me, and I'm not nearly as glum as I was before. I should thank you guys for that. I realize now that it is success, how hard I work for it, in college not where I go that matters.
Seriously, a FULL RIDE to any respected institution is an absolutely massive success. You really have no idea how much that will help you down the line.
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As many have said, it doesnt matter where you go to college.
And I'd say this is true of academia as well... because you can go from any undergrad institution to a top tier graduate school (I did).
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