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On March 04 2013 08:04 integrity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:02 ROOTT1 wrote: game was over yo --, obv it wasnt completely over but idra had like a 20% chance of winning finally an ACTUAL pro comes in and says the truth
Axslav is an actual pro who actually had better results in 2012 than TT1 (he made the MLG championship bracket 3 times) and you guys are immediately discrediting his opinion while accepting TT1s?
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What's Idra gonna do if he needs surgery that has a success rate of 40%? Just leave?
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On March 04 2013 08:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:05 StarVe wrote:On March 04 2013 08:02 Shellshock1122 wrote: IMFenix. I feel like there is people that are new enough to following sc2 that they've probably never seen him play WCS Finals yo. That was still almost 4 months ago and he only played in the first round Well, if you're arguing like that then there are probably people new enough to following SC2 that they had never seen IdrA play until today.
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United Kingdom12011 Posts
On March 04 2013 08:08 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:06 ssxsilver wrote:On March 04 2013 08:04 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 08:02 ssxsilver wrote:On March 04 2013 08:00 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Integra wrote: Wait, IDrA left with over 1.5k in minerals and gas?? What just happen, could someone explain why he left. Minigun had completed the transition to airtoss and the map has no areas large enough to beat it with run bys, Idra was trying to end the game and failed. At that point he had no army left and most of his bases were mined out / mining out and he didn't have the mass air upgrades you need to stand a chance vs VRs. But his (Minigun) was at 130 supply with a bank of like 300/700. Not saying Idra had the game won, but with 1.5 bank he could have remaxed on hydras and continue to play an even game (up until max supply airtoss=GG). Hydras aren't the answer because of storm, he needed masses of corrupters / infestors but didn't have air upgrades (as he focused on ground tech for the middle game) and had invested in mainly vipers not infestors. He didn't have the gas needed to swap into anything that stood a chance vs VR/Storm. Granted I still think Minigun would have still won that, but I dunno that fight just didn't seem all that game-ending to me =\. IdrA was investing everything into ending the game before air transition. That was the last chance, and it didn't work.
He killed pretty much all of the void rays. There was about 4 left and void rays do not do bonus damage against hydras.
Also he used pretty much all his templar energy up and Idra did nothing to move out of storms which is perfectly doable with hydra speed.
Idra played that out badly, don't try and swing it into a balance discussion as it wasn't. He left far too early, plain and simple. He attacked in bad angles beforehand and didn't even micro, he should have lost that game. Admittedly and I'd love Daybreak to be removed from the pool anyway, it's far too narrow. I've been saying this since Broodlord Infestor became strong. It's impossible to punish slow armies on that map.
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United States97250 Posts
On March 04 2013 08:10 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 04 2013 08:05 StarVe wrote:On March 04 2013 08:02 Shellshock1122 wrote: IMFenix. I feel like there is people that are new enough to following sc2 that they've probably never seen him play WCS Finals yo. That was still almost 4 months ago and he only played in the first round Well, if you're arguing like that then there are probably people new enough to following SC2 that they had never seen IdrA play until today. haha that's true, but I'd say he still has a big enough following that you would have heard about him compared to Fenix
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It's obvious that greg has no passion for sc2. He is playing just for money.
He dont have to be skilled too, his marketable name is good enough for EG.
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On March 04 2013 08:10 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:08 WolfintheSheep wrote:On March 04 2013 08:06 ssxsilver wrote:On March 04 2013 08:04 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 08:02 ssxsilver wrote:On March 04 2013 08:00 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Integra wrote: Wait, IDrA left with over 1.5k in minerals and gas?? What just happen, could someone explain why he left. Minigun had completed the transition to airtoss and the map has no areas large enough to beat it with run bys, Idra was trying to end the game and failed. At that point he had no army left and most of his bases were mined out / mining out and he didn't have the mass air upgrades you need to stand a chance vs VRs. But his (Minigun) was at 130 supply with a bank of like 300/700. Not saying Idra had the game won, but with 1.5 bank he could have remaxed on hydras and continue to play an even game (up until max supply airtoss=GG). Hydras aren't the answer because of storm, he needed masses of corrupters / infestors but didn't have air upgrades (as he focused on ground tech for the middle game) and had invested in mainly vipers not infestors. He didn't have the gas needed to swap into anything that stood a chance vs VR/Storm. Granted I still think Minigun would have still won that, but I dunno that fight just didn't seem all that game-ending to me =\. IdrA was investing everything into ending the game before air transition. That was the last chance, and it didn't work. He killed pretty much all of the void rays. There was about 4 left and void rays do not do bonus damage against hydras. Also he used pretty much all his templar energy up and Idra did nothing to move out of storms which is perfectly doable with hydra speed. Idra played that out badly, don't try and swing it into a balance discussion as it wasn't. He left far too early, plain and simple. He attacked in bad angles beforehand and didn't even micro, he should have lost that game. Admittedly and I'd love Daybreak to be removed from the pool anyway, it's far too narrow. I've been saying this since Broodlord Infestor became strong. It's impossible to punish slow armies on that map.
4 void rays left if you have vision problems.. there was 7 on the field and 2 incoming. nice try.
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On March 04 2013 08:09 faculty.aCe. wrote: What's Idra gonna do if he needs surgery that has a success rate of 40%? Just leave?
No, call the doc a dumbass
"lol"
then leave
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This was the first time I ever scheduled to be home for a broadcast, and what a disappointing series it was
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So a little birdie told me that Idra has ragequitted a couple games already? :p
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That is actually the problem with Idra he doesn't have any fighting spirit, he correctly identify that Minigun was way ahead and likely to win if he made no mistakes, but it doesn't mean you have to leave like this so fast, you have to keep trying and hang on to that little chance you still have, hoping that he will make a mistake (or that you can force him to do one).
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On March 04 2013 08:09 faculty.aCe. wrote: What's Idra gonna do if he needs surgery that has a success rate of 40%? Just leave?
"Gregory, you have a 50% chance to beat this cancer"
Commits suicide
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Congrats Minigun, well played
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On March 04 2013 08:10 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:08 WolfintheSheep wrote:On March 04 2013 08:06 ssxsilver wrote:On March 04 2013 08:04 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 08:02 ssxsilver wrote:On March 04 2013 08:00 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Integra wrote: Wait, IDrA left with over 1.5k in minerals and gas?? What just happen, could someone explain why he left. Minigun had completed the transition to airtoss and the map has no areas large enough to beat it with run bys, Idra was trying to end the game and failed. At that point he had no army left and most of his bases were mined out / mining out and he didn't have the mass air upgrades you need to stand a chance vs VRs. But his (Minigun) was at 130 supply with a bank of like 300/700. Not saying Idra had the game won, but with 1.5 bank he could have remaxed on hydras and continue to play an even game (up until max supply airtoss=GG). Hydras aren't the answer because of storm, he needed masses of corrupters / infestors but didn't have air upgrades (as he focused on ground tech for the middle game) and had invested in mainly vipers not infestors. He didn't have the gas needed to swap into anything that stood a chance vs VR/Storm. Granted I still think Minigun would have still won that, but I dunno that fight just didn't seem all that game-ending to me =\. IdrA was investing everything into ending the game before air transition. That was the last chance, and it didn't work. He killed pretty much all of the void rays. There was about 4 left and void rays do not do bonus damage against hydras. Also he used pretty much all his templar energy up and Idra did nothing to move out of storms which is perfectly doable with hydra speed. Idra played that out badly, don't try and swing it into a balance discussion as it wasn't. He left far too early, plain and simple. He attacked in bad angles beforehand and didn't even micro, he should have lost that game. Admittedly I'd love Daybreak to be removed from the pool anyway, it's far too narrow. I've been saying this since Broodlord Infestor became strong. It's impossible to punish slow armies on that map.
There were actually seven VR's alive at the end of the fight if you include the ones which had just finished but -shrug- on the bolded I agree whole heartedly though!
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On March 04 2013 08:10 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:08 WolfintheSheep wrote:On March 04 2013 08:06 ssxsilver wrote:On March 04 2013 08:04 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 08:02 ssxsilver wrote:On March 04 2013 08:00 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Integra wrote: Wait, IDrA left with over 1.5k in minerals and gas?? What just happen, could someone explain why he left. Minigun had completed the transition to airtoss and the map has no areas large enough to beat it with run bys, Idra was trying to end the game and failed. At that point he had no army left and most of his bases were mined out / mining out and he didn't have the mass air upgrades you need to stand a chance vs VRs. But his (Minigun) was at 130 supply with a bank of like 300/700. Not saying Idra had the game won, but with 1.5 bank he could have remaxed on hydras and continue to play an even game (up until max supply airtoss=GG). Hydras aren't the answer because of storm, he needed masses of corrupters / infestors but didn't have air upgrades (as he focused on ground tech for the middle game) and had invested in mainly vipers not infestors. He didn't have the gas needed to swap into anything that stood a chance vs VR/Storm. Granted I still think Minigun would have still won that, but I dunno that fight just didn't seem all that game-ending to me =\. IdrA was investing everything into ending the game before air transition. That was the last chance, and it didn't work. He killed pretty much all of the void rays. There was about 4 left and void rays do not do bonus damage against hydras. Also he used pretty much all his templar energy up and Idra did nothing to move out of storms which is perfectly doable with hydra speed. Idra played that out badly, don't try and swing it into a balance discussion as it wasn't. He left far too early, plain and simple. He attacked in bad angles beforehand and didn't even micro, he should have lost that game. Admittedly and I'd love Daybreak to be removed from the pool anyway, it's far too narrow. I've been saying this since Broodlord Infestor became strong. It's impossible to punish slow armies on that map.
Wrong again, I counted at least 6 voids left, and I didn't look at the unit counter at the end. Also, have you checked how many Hydra a pack of voids kills On top of that, there were still archons left and storms would be available before the building hydras could attack.
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On March 04 2013 08:04 Hier wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:02 ROOTT1 wrote: game was over yo --, obv it wasnt completely over but idra had like a 20% chance of winning How is even as low as 20% chance of winning "over"? Idra leaving so soon was simply not correct.
whats right or wrong doesnt really concern any of us because its his tournament life that was on the line, not ours but yea most players wouldnt have left in that situation, to each his own tho.
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On March 04 2013 08:12 Murkinlol wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:09 faculty.aCe. wrote: What's Idra gonna do if he needs surgery that has a success rate of 40%? Just leave? "Gregory, you have a 50% chance to beat this cancer" Commits suicide
I think you mean "ragequits"
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god idra are you serious? wow just disappointed
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United States994 Posts
After 3-0ing Idra with nearly 19,000 watching Minigun is handsomely rewarded with a trip to Dallas...and a first round match up with Life.
Upset city?
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On March 04 2013 08:11 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:10 StarVe wrote:On March 04 2013 08:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 04 2013 08:05 StarVe wrote:On March 04 2013 08:02 Shellshock1122 wrote: IMFenix. I feel like there is people that are new enough to following sc2 that they've probably never seen him play WCS Finals yo. That was still almost 4 months ago and he only played in the first round Well, if you're arguing like that then there are probably people new enough to following SC2 that they had never seen IdrA play until today. haha that's true, but I'd say he still has a big enough following that you would have heard about him compared to Fenix Yeah, obviously you're right.
Fenix has been very elusive for like one and a half years now but since he's still on IM maybe a tiny bit of their spirit has transferred over to him and he's gonna beat a bunch of guys out of nowhere. If he makes it to the live event I'd consider that a success, but it's pretty interesting that really no one has any clue how good Fenix actually is.
On March 04 2013 08:18 MLG_Adam wrote: After 3-0ing Idra with nearly 19,000 watching Minigun is handsomely rewarded with a trip to Dallas...and a first round match up with Life.
Upset city? Ends right there.
Comparing Life to Idra is like comparing Real Madrid to the New York Red Bulls.
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