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On March 04 2013 08:01 StarVe wrote:
Like every single HotS PvZ I've seen has been disappointing, I just can't get excited for this, it's either a stomp one way or another or a macro game that looks like BL/infestor only the other way around with turtle void ray/HT/robo combos.
Anyway, I don't think Minigun will make it past Life, Life might just be able to kill him with early pools and his lings alone. He could do that to anyone, really. :D
I thought Goswser vs Caliber was pretty good. Got to see a lot of SH action
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game was over yo --, obv it wasnt completely over but idra had like a 20% chance of winning
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On March 04 2013 08:00 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 07:58 Topzerg wrote:
lol axslav not having a clue, it was over with that ammount of upgraded void rays still alive Axslav beat IdrA in their last meeting. Are you sure it isn't IdrA that has no clue? He could've remaxed on a bunch of Hydras to kill the voids
rofl, have you even played hots at all? did you forget about storms owning hydras easily?
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On March 04 2013 08:00 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 07:58 Qikz wrote:
Idra threw that away. I can't believe he did that. Your analysis has been off all three games. Compare your statements to most P and Z in this thread.
Idra was sitting there remaxing on mainly ultras against a voidray, immortal, templar army. He then sat in psi-storms with his hydras and did little to nothing with his vipers. He also had a massive bank and a base advantage. Even after the engagement he was up in supply and Mini was on the backfoot. He could have built another army (which was almost done) and attacked straight again before he had a bunch of storms again and just won.
I literally do not understand how my analysis is off when I'm saying exactly what was happening.
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IMFenix. I feel like there is people that are new enough to following sc2 that they've probably never seen him play
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On March 04 2013 08:00 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 07:58 Integra wrote:
Wait, IDrA left with over 1.5k in minerals and gas?? What just happen, could someone explain why he left. Minigun had completed the transition to airtoss and the map has no areas large enough to beat it with run bys, Idra was trying to end the game and failed. At that point he had no army left and most of his bases were mined out / mining out and he didn't have the mass air upgrades you need to stand a chance vs VRs.
But his (Minigun) was at 130 supply with a bank of like 300/700. Not saying Idra had the game won, but with 1.5 bank he could have remaxed on hydras and continue to play an even game (up until max supply airtoss=GG).
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Glad Minigun won though, he is beast, like Top 50 GM HotS. Glad he is doing well competitively again!
On March 04 2013 08:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
IMFenix. I feel like there is people that are new enough to following sc2 that they've probably never seen him play
Haha they are probably like, who the hell is this random Chilean on Incredible Miracle?!
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On March 04 2013 08:00 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 07:59 Integra wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Ranir wrote:
the game was way over, why are some people think otherwise?
IdrA had 2.5k minerals and 1.5k gas against minigun,s 335 minerals and 700 gas? How was the game over for IdrA? ¨ 5 base vs 5 base, storm + air have you ever played a zvp in hots?
He was behind perhaps, but it was still a game he could have recovered from. Boxer once said that even if there is only a 1% chance of winning, he will fight for it, because if he can grab that win, that 1% chance turns into a 100% victory.
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On March 04 2013 08:00 revoN wrote:
Hard to be an Idra fan. What a disappointing performance :/
It's been hard for awhile...i was an idra fan til he started completely being unprofessional...while losing his games :\ There is a line between being a fan and being a stream therapist
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On March 04 2013 08:01 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:00 nkr wrote:On March 04 2013 07:59 Integra wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Ranir wrote:
the game was way over, why are some people think otherwise?
IdrA had 2.5k minerals and 1.5k gas against minigun,s 335 minerals and 700 gas? How was the game over for IdrA? ¨ 5 base vs 5 base, storm + air have you ever played a zvp in hots? IdrA had 6 bases
Idra was trying to break minigun with that fight before airtoss kicked in, even if he pulled back once the fight started going south it meant Minigun kept his base up and was on VR/Storm and that map is nearly impossible to beat it on once it gets going due to lack of open spaces.
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On March 04 2013 07:59 nvs. wrote:
Haha why does he even play anymore.
Based on that last game, he doesn't.
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On March 04 2013 08:02 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:01 StarVe wrote:
Like every single HotS PvZ I've seen has been disappointing, I just can't get excited for this, it's either a stomp one way or another or a macro game that looks like BL/infestor only the other way around with turtle void ray/HT/robo combos.
Anyway, I don't think Minigun will make it past Life, Life might just be able to kill him with early pools and his lings alone. He could do that to anyone, really. :D I thought Goswser vs Caliber was pretty good. Got to see a lot of SH action
You mean the series where Caliber came to the thread to apologize for playing badly and we saw the biggest throw by Goswser ?
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On March 04 2013 08:02 Topzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:00 JJH777 wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Topzerg wrote:
lol axslav not having a clue, it was over with that ammount of upgraded void rays still alive Axslav beat IdrA in their last meeting. Are you sure it isn't IdrA that has no clue? He could've remaxed on a bunch of Hydras to kill the voids rofl, have you even played hots at all? did you forget about storms owning hydras easily?
Bro, do you even split ?
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On March 04 2013 08:00 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 07:59 Integra wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Ranir wrote:
the game was way over, why are some people think otherwise?
IdrA had 2.5k minerals and 1.5k gas against minigun,s 335 minerals and 700 gas? How was the game over for IdrA? ¨ 5 base vs 5 base, storm + air have you ever played a zvp in hots?
Minigun had no money......and pretty soon only 2 of those bases would be mining
Pretty sure zergs strength is they can quickly make units(any kind of units as long as you have the tech structure)
meh.......
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They should use the resume from replay to have other progamers continue from there when the game is released and test if other zergs could win from that position.
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On March 04 2013 08:00 AllHailTheDead wrote:
Idra doing what is expected......
Gotta admit hes a terrible player but he gives the fans what they want......
Right isn't this why people like him so much? Cause he just leaves a game he has a chance in to preserve his bad boy attitude
i can't speak for others, but i personally like him for all the smart and hilarious stuff he says on shows like ITG and in interviews. and i kinda like his general playstyle, it's just always had obvious weaknesses and he's unfortunately become worse and worse =/
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On March 04 2013 08:02 ssxsilver wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:00 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Integra wrote:
Wait, IDrA left with over 1.5k in minerals and gas?? What just happen, could someone explain why he left. Minigun had completed the transition to airtoss and the map has no areas large enough to beat it with run bys, Idra was trying to end the game and failed. At that point he had no army left and most of his bases were mined out / mining out and he didn't have the mass air upgrades you need to stand a chance vs VRs. But his (Minigun) was at 130 supply with a bank of like 300/700. Not saying Idra had the game won, but with 1.5 bank he could have remaxed on hydras and continue to play an even game (up until max supply airtoss=GG).
Hydras aren't the answer because of storm, he needed masses of corrupters / infestors but didn't have air upgrades (as he focused on ground tech for the middle game) and had invested in mainly vipers not infestors. He didn't have the gas needed to swap into anything that stood a chance vs VR/Storm.
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On March 04 2013 08:02 ROOTT1 wrote:
game was over yo --, obv it wasnt completely over but idra had like a 20% chance of winning
finally an ACTUAL pro comes in and says the truth
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