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On March 04 2013 08:02 ROOTT1 wrote: game was over yo --, obv it wasnt completely over but idra had like a 20% chance of winning How is even as low as 20% chance of winning "over"? Idra leaving so soon was simply not correct.
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So do you guys think that we will see the scourge back in LotV
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On March 04 2013 08:04 coolcor wrote: They should use the resume from replay to have other progamers continue from there when the game is released and test if other zergs could win from that position.
Would be kind of humiliating in some cases.
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IdrA threw that game away, he had it, no way minigum could had come back from that, that was disappointing.
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On March 04 2013 08:01 StarVe wrote: Like every single HotS PvZ I've seen has been disappointing, I just can't get excited for this, it's either a stomp one way or another or a macro game that looks like BL/infestor only the other way around with turtle void ray/HT/robo combos.
This isn't balance whine, it's just that it looks boring to me.
Anyway, I don't think Minigun will make it past Life, Life might just be able to kill him with early pools and his lings alone. He could do that to anyone, really. :D
I'm sorry but what have you been looking at? Off the top of my head I can thing of at least 5 PvZ that didn't look like that at all... Granted most of them were in GSTL Preseason, I'm assuming you haven't watched these.
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On March 04 2013 08:02 Shellshock1122 wrote: IMFenix. I feel like there is people that are new enough to following sc2 that they've probably never seen him play WCS Finals yo.
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On March 04 2013 08:04 integrity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:02 ROOTT1 wrote: game was over yo --, obv it wasnt completely over but idra had like a 20% chance of winning finally an ACTUAL pro comes in and says the truth only because he agrees with you
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On March 04 2013 08:02 ROOTT1 wrote: game was over yo --, obv it wasnt completely over but idra had like a 20% chance of winning That's what sets apart good players from Idra. A good player will take a 20% chance and say "hey, that's better than a 0% chance". Idra will take a 20% chance and say "20% isn't good enough, I will make it 0% instead" and then ragequit.
He shouldn't play the game because he doesn't have the mental ability to be a winner. I have no idea how he managed to go to Korea and spend time on a Korean b-team in Broodwar, because I've never seen him having a winning mentality in his entire SC2 career.
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On March 04 2013 08:04 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:02 ssxsilver wrote:On March 04 2013 08:00 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Integra wrote: Wait, IDrA left with over 1.5k in minerals and gas?? What just happen, could someone explain why he left. Minigun had completed the transition to airtoss and the map has no areas large enough to beat it with run bys, Idra was trying to end the game and failed. At that point he had no army left and most of his bases were mined out / mining out and he didn't have the mass air upgrades you need to stand a chance vs VRs. But his (Minigun) was at 130 supply with a bank of like 300/700. Not saying Idra had the game won, but with 1.5 bank he could have remaxed on hydras and continue to play an even game (up until max supply airtoss=GG). Hydras aren't the answer because of storm, he needed masses of corrupters / infestors but didn't have air upgrades (as he focused on ground tech for the middle game) and had invested in mainly vipers not infestors. He didn't have the gas needed to swap into anything that stood a chance vs VR/Storm.
Because you cant spread out your units MIRITE?
you act as if Minigun has unlimited storms.....Whatever no point in trying to argue Idra just isn't a great player and only tries to win by mechanics only.
that 3rd game was the only close one tho
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On March 04 2013 08:04 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:02 ssxsilver wrote:On March 04 2013 08:00 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Integra wrote: Wait, IDrA left with over 1.5k in minerals and gas?? What just happen, could someone explain why he left. Minigun had completed the transition to airtoss and the map has no areas large enough to beat it with run bys, Idra was trying to end the game and failed. At that point he had no army left and most of his bases were mined out / mining out and he didn't have the mass air upgrades you need to stand a chance vs VRs. But his (Minigun) was at 130 supply with a bank of like 300/700. Not saying Idra had the game won, but with 1.5 bank he could have remaxed on hydras and continue to play an even game (up until max supply airtoss=GG). Hydras aren't the answer because of storm, he needed masses of corrupters / infestors but didn't have air upgrades (as he focused on ground tech for the middle game) and had invested in mainly vipers not infestors. He didn't have the gas needed to swap into anything that stood a chance vs VR/Storm. Granted I still think Minigun would have still won that, but I dunno that fight just didn't seem all that game-ending to me =\. I think if you'd resume from replay with say Stephano, he wins it.
Nevertheless, GJ Minigun!
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On March 04 2013 08:02 ROOTT1 wrote: game was over yo --, obv it wasnt completely over but idra had like a 20% chance of winning
who in his right mind scoops at 20%....
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On March 04 2013 08:05 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:02 Shellshock1122 wrote: IMFenix. I feel like there is people that are new enough to following sc2 that they've probably never seen him play WCS Finals yo. That was still almost 4 months ago and he only played in the first round
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Not surprised. Minigun is probably one of the top protoss in NA at the moment and protoss is strong. I know that IdrA can do better then he showed in these matches though. Hopefully he will do better in the future.
Can't wait to see Minigun play on LAN
I do wonder when IdrA found out he was playing minigun instead of ddoro :o
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On March 04 2013 08:03 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:02 Topzerg wrote:On March 04 2013 08:00 JJH777 wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Topzerg wrote: lol axslav not having a clue, it was over with that ammount of upgraded void rays still alive Axslav beat IdrA in their last meeting. Are you sure it isn't IdrA that has no clue? He could've remaxed on a bunch of Hydras to kill the voids rofl, have you even played hots at all? did you forget about storms owning hydras easily? Bro, do you even split ?
A good protoss won't fight in a spot where you can split effectively, lol. I've been zerg in WoL since july 2010... in hots, I'm ranked higher with protoss than zerg. I guess that should make sense.
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On March 04 2013 08:05 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:04 integrity wrote:On March 04 2013 08:02 ROOTT1 wrote: game was over yo --, obv it wasnt completely over but idra had like a 20% chance of winning finally an ACTUAL pro comes in and says the truth only because he agrees with you
1/5 > 0
or maybe I should go back to 3rd grade
Either way Idra will get nowhere if he continues to just leave games at the very sign that he might lose
Sure you can't win them all, but why not try and atleast give your opponent hell in the process
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On March 04 2013 08:06 ssxsilver wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:04 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 08:02 ssxsilver wrote:On March 04 2013 08:00 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Integra wrote: Wait, IDrA left with over 1.5k in minerals and gas?? What just happen, could someone explain why he left. Minigun had completed the transition to airtoss and the map has no areas large enough to beat it with run bys, Idra was trying to end the game and failed. At that point he had no army left and most of his bases were mined out / mining out and he didn't have the mass air upgrades you need to stand a chance vs VRs. But his (Minigun) was at 130 supply with a bank of like 300/700. Not saying Idra had the game won, but with 1.5 bank he could have remaxed on hydras and continue to play an even game (up until max supply airtoss=GG). Hydras aren't the answer because of storm, he needed masses of corrupters / infestors but didn't have air upgrades (as he focused on ground tech for the middle game) and had invested in mainly vipers not infestors. He didn't have the gas needed to swap into anything that stood a chance vs VR/Storm. Granted I still think Minigun would have still won that, but I dunno that fight just didn't seem all that game-ending to me =\. IdrA was investing everything into ending the game before air transition. That was the last chance, and it didn't work.
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On March 04 2013 08:06 AllHailTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:04 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 08:02 ssxsilver wrote:On March 04 2013 08:00 TheButtonmen wrote:On March 04 2013 07:58 Integra wrote: Wait, IDrA left with over 1.5k in minerals and gas?? What just happen, could someone explain why he left. Minigun had completed the transition to airtoss and the map has no areas large enough to beat it with run bys, Idra was trying to end the game and failed. At that point he had no army left and most of his bases were mined out / mining out and he didn't have the mass air upgrades you need to stand a chance vs VRs. But his (Minigun) was at 130 supply with a bank of like 300/700. Not saying Idra had the game won, but with 1.5 bank he could have remaxed on hydras and continue to play an even game (up until max supply airtoss=GG). Hydras aren't the answer because of storm, he needed masses of corrupters / infestors but didn't have air upgrades (as he focused on ground tech for the middle game) and had invested in mainly vipers not infestors. He didn't have the gas needed to swap into anything that stood a chance vs VR/Storm. Because you cant spread out your units MIRITE? you act as if Minigun has unlimited storms.....Whatever no point in trying to argue Idra just isn't a great player and only tries to win by mechanics only. that 3rd game was the only close one tho
That map is a right proper bitch to get a good hydra spread on and if you spend too much time dancing then the VR's / Storm residual damage can actually burn through hydras quite quickly. You need maps with larger areas to engage on and less corridors if hydras will be useful, particularly once you factor in time warp + the toss adding in 1-2 collsus.
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minigun, your present for beating idra, you now get to play life
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cant wait to see him in proleague
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