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On January 10 2013 08:39 VisceraEyes wrote: @Palmar
It makes me feel like he's scared to push wagons himself. During the whole time I was reading his filter, he was always commenting on others' suspicions and never voicing or pushing any of his own.
In spite of that, he feels confident enough during the night-phase to direct blues.
He also has some weird things like "I don't think I'm going to get double stacked", requesting townies don't get protected but then saying jackal, foolishness and such might get shot.
I'm not quite sure how to interpret it.
Not to mention he's not taking any kind of a leader role at the moment.
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On January 10 2013 08:38 Palmar wrote: I went for marv because I thought he was scum. I think I explained it well enough, there's multiple links to things I didn't like in the chat between us. Also he seemed to do the whole gradually shift to think I'm scum thing. Which I didn't like either. you admitted to trolling early on day 1 in "order to help figure things out" then marv took it for what it was at the time not contributing and rightly voted for you. You even gave him townie points for it at the time when he first did it.
And he shifted to not thinking your scum after the logs and yet you still pushed even when i said i was uncomfortable with it.
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On January 04 2013 09:03 Toadesstern wrote:hey clarity still up for lynching Jackal? I'd really like to know who you want to see lynched right now and wether you changed your thoughts about Jackal once you heard he's a vet. Well you didn't I can see that but a little update on your part would be awesome. Let's say you're not allowed to lynch Jackal. Who'd be the guy you lynch?
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On January 10 2013 08:19 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 08:18 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 10 2013 08:10 Promethelax wrote: I'm trying to understand your argument so I can know if you are town who thinks you have a good case or scum pushing a mislynch. I'm sorry I don't see those arguments as holding much water.
I assume you mean ACME and not looney? talking about whichever was one where you mislynched me for being afk on the last day. darthpunk was scum. you said a number of unpleasant things about/towards me that game and fuck... name calling is not waht i'm talking about! It's the intent/motivation behind the name calling combined with other things about your attidude/actions that deteremine if you're having a pro town or anti town effect on the thread dont know how much clearer I can make that Prove it. Give me the evidence of this anti-town play that you so desperately want me to have. You keep saying my attitude is anti-town. Show me, show the thread.
Times where prom states/implies that he's useless and or doesn't know what's going on in the game
+ Show Spoiler +On January 05 2013 03:41 Promethelax wrote:Hey all. I haven't been following this game, don't know what cycle (day/night) we're in or anything really. I'll do my best to catch up but it'll be a day or two before I'm very useful. I assume Tunkeg was under suspicion? Since he is, after all, Tunkeg. But yeah, I'm town. Quick, someone, give me the synopsis of this huge fucking game. On January 05 2013 03:43 Promethelax wrote: Oh, I see we're in lynch cycle.
Can anyone link me to cases against the lynch targets? And a vote count? On January 05 2013 09:15 Promethelax wrote: Going to work. Still mad about yet another...I'll try to be useful when I get back. On January 06 2013 07:17 Promethelax wrote: I still haven't given this the read through it deserves. I'll read it when I get home from work in 12 hours and give my thoughts. Sorry this is taking me so long to get to, I joined up at the worst possible part of the week for me. 12 to 13 hours I'll be back. Hold me to it. On January 06 2013 20:47 Promethelax wrote: okay, I'm here and finally getting a chance to read this game I'm in. Anyone have anything I should look at in particular? On January 06 2013 21:40 Promethelax wrote: No idea yet. I'm on page 29 and I don't like him much but literally nothing has happened at that point in the game/ On January 06 2013 23:50 Promethelax wrote: Okay, I'm going to bed. I've not finished reading the thread but I've made a decent dent. I'll talk to you all tomorrow. Good luck town!
Prom posting in ways that shut down discussion. He talks to people in a way that if they're town they don't care to continue their conversation with them.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 08 2013 03:26 Promethelax wrote: I just want everyone to be modkilled for playing against their wincon so I don't have to listen to this tripe anymore. On January 08 2013 04:16 Promethelax wrote: Holy fuck. No wonder Marv wanted out. On January 08 2013 04:16 Promethelax wrote: Fuck you cheesecake. On January 08 2013 04:59 Promethelax wrote: Did you read Cheese's post Kush? Or any other part of this game?
And recently you've been going along with these extremely popular debears/cc lynches...... I don't buy that you're trying to figure how who's scum. You're just coasting along playing into the bad thread atmosphere, even encouraging it at times. I will admit that just recently you've made an effort to look like town prom but same as djo, but this happened right after I started calling you so your most most recent efforts is somewhat of a null read.
Yes, a large amount of this is meta. But this is prome... he's a guy who jumped into acme with a high possibilty of being lynched and managed to look VERY town almost immediately. His behavior in this game is scummy of its own accord but it's even scummier considering that it's comming from prom
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On January 10 2013 08:41 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 08:38 Palmar wrote: I went for marv because I thought he was scum. I think I explained it well enough, there's multiple links to things I didn't like in the chat between us. Also he seemed to do the whole gradually shift to think I'm scum thing. Which I didn't like either. you admitted to trolling early on day 1 in "order to help figure things out" then marv took it for what it was at the time not contributing and rightly voted for you. You even gave him townie points for it at the time when he first did it. And he shifted to not thinking your scum after the logs and yet you still pushed even when i said i was uncomfortable with it.
dunnoh, got tunneled in on him or something. To be perfectly honest I did not mean to lynch him day 2, I had changed my mind. But apparently he got modkilled.
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That's a strong enough association in my opinion...disallowing lynching veterans in this particular game would have been asinine.
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It's a good point VE.
@Prom Supersoft's main thing is how ridiculously quickly he stamped me town on day one when I was in hardcore troll mode.
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Okay, I'm heading out. Someone get Thrawn to give his evidence for me being anti-town tonight.
Good luck guys!
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He literally just did Prom...
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oh woops I totes missed that. Okay. Thanks Tfunk!
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I didn't refresh Palmar. I'm an stupid.
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@prome I think cheesecake is null and you are scum
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On January 10 2013 08:45 Palmar wrote: It's a good point VE.
@Prom Supersoft's main thing is how ridiculously quickly he stamped me town on day one when I was in hardcore troll mode.
On July 24 2012 00:03 supersoft wrote:Okay I am home, let's clean up.First of all, I want you to explain what really happened this game: It's always the same, the scumvets and the townvets fight for the townleadership. 2 Townvets, syllogism and sandroba had an insanely strong start. + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2012 18:00 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 15:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 16 2012 15:43 Blazinghand wrote: To add to my previous post, which is unreasonably short: That's awfully irresponsible of you, M_Z. Are you FoSing him without calling him scum? Way to take any air whatosever out of your FoS. You're probably worried that you'll be told by your overlords that he's scum with you and you want an excuse not to vote him later.
##unvote ##vote: Meapak_Ziphh lulz didn't scroll. So apparently I need to define FoS. Stands for Finger of Suspicion. Gives a heads up to Chez that his current play isn't working and that he needs to change or it's lynch time. When I vote for someone, I want them to die and will work for that unless significant evidence can convince me otherwise. If you just throw votes around like you (and bugs -_-) are doing, they get the air taken out of them. My post was prompted by remembering Chez's previous gambit I saw him play. Either he continues to play scummy and we kill him, or he shapes up and plays nice. Obviously he could still be scum even if he shapes up but it'll be much harder for him to cause chaos if he's playing nice and we catch him later on. So do you think his play so far is indicative of him being mafia? If so, do you want him to change his behavior or do you want to lynch him? Do you always give people who you think may be mafia "heads up" so they can change their play? Moreover, do you think your "warning" will make him change his play? Hi sandroba, you around? On July 16 2012 19:09 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 14:49 Probulous wrote: Wow, that was useful...
Ok since no-one seems to want to actually participate, here are some thoughts of mine of the setup.
Aside from trying to kill town, the only thing that binds mafia as a team is their strategy dictated from above. From my reading this is sent during the night. Thus day 2 is going to be crucial. We should be aware of people who change reads for bad reasons or suddenly become active. Basically anyone who suddenly gains direction overnight will be a good target to poke. As for Day 1, I think participation and clarity will be extra useful because mafia now know that they are setting themselves up for difficulties in Day 2 if they pick targets Day 1. People with clear targets are going to have to work harder to change them if a different CEO strategy comes in.
Thoughts? My thoughts are that I would like to lynch you for this post. This reads like someone wanting to seem like they are contributing, but you are a smart person so you should know there is no reason to post something like this on day 1. You are basically announcing beforehand what you will consider mafia behavior and as town there is little reason to do that as you specifically want mafia to act according to your expectations. I knew that they were town from the first couple of posts. Foolishness and Palmar saw that, too. I know exactly that they saw it because they tried to attack both of them instantly. There is no way, that Palmar honestly thought that syllogism is scum at the end of day1. Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 02:27 Palmar wrote: Supersoft nailed it. MVP. I'm going to stop playing and start working on a bronze statue of him to erect in my bathroom. he even tried to pull me on his side. So my first allegation is basically this: Palmar attacks Syllogism even though he knows that he's town.Second allegation: Some people are wondering why we chose Palmar all of a sudden, while I for example was defending him until n2. As you see, I faked it. + Show Spoiler +On July 17 2012 02:43 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 02:37 sandroba wrote:On July 17 2012 02:36 Mattchew wrote: CAN SOMEONE READ WHAT I POSTED ON KATINA, AT THE VERY LEAST TO JUST TELL ME IM WRONG You are wrong. Katina alignment is non conclusive right now. Move on to palmar/mz/bh/syllo/probulus. ah I corrected that list for you ;-) *stop going for palmar. All of you. That guy works best if you let him do his job. judge him based on his results not based on his playstyle. + Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 02:27 Palmar wrote: Supersoft nailed it. MVP. I'm going to stop playing and start working on a bronze statue of him to erect in my bathroom. this makes him the most hillarious player so far. We can't afford to lose him. On July 22 2012 03:01 supersoft wrote: Town-vets& 26. Palmar town 3. Sandroba town 11. Supersoft town
???-Vets& 6. Foolishness 10. Meapak_Ziphh 16. GGQ 7. VisceraEyes 15. syllogism
Troll 8. Bill Murray 18. Chezinu
dead 25. RebirthofLegend town 19. Kurumi town 13. Wherebugsgo town
yes you do VE. I devided the playerlist in two parts. in these parts in another 3 parts *4 parts for this part. because 3 of this list are already dead. There were 13 players on that list. That means about 4 of them are scum. 3 of them are dead and one of them is me. 1 is sandroba and 1 is palmar. 2 of them are troll i cannot possibly read because they never make any sense.
syllogism makes most sense of the 5 remaining players. leaves you, mz, foolish and GGQ if one of the trolls is scum and i made one mistake, 2 of you are scum On July 22 2012 03:40 supersoft wrote: no wtf are you doing to me. I refiltered palmar and I agree on everything he says except syllogism and katina. this was extremely fake. Sorry I had to do that, I wanted to lull Palmar into a false sense of security. On July 22 2012 04:15 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 04:07 Palmar wrote:On July 22 2012 03:32 supersoft wrote: ah very well. Palmar do youi have any powers? Even if I thought revealing my role was beneficial, why would I do it during the night? maybe i am a vig and i don't want to misfire. :-D this however was extremely real. I had Palmars kill already typed in several times at n2. I was suspicious of Palmar right from the start, when he attacked syllo and sandro for no reason. I wanted to see how Palmar plays without pressure and we all saw it: He was fucking useless.Third: His roleclaim *facepalm* Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 23:12 syllogism wrote: You are right, I think he messed up and forgot that RoL died first, though obviously he can't claim RoL's role as that could be tested immediately. If he gets to choose whose role he takes, there is no way he would take WBG's pardoner role as that's worthless. the thought that Palmar picks up a pardoner-power when he's town is just ridiculous LET'S LYNCH THAT SCUM
this is my usual way to play with you palmar. This game i just didn't switch over into killing you...
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On January 10 2013 08:44 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 08:41 iamperfection wrote:On January 10 2013 08:38 Palmar wrote: I went for marv because I thought he was scum. I think I explained it well enough, there's multiple links to things I didn't like in the chat between us. Also he seemed to do the whole gradually shift to think I'm scum thing. Which I didn't like either. you admitted to trolling early on day 1 in "order to help figure things out" then marv took it for what it was at the time not contributing and rightly voted for you. You even gave him townie points for it at the time when he first did it. And he shifted to not thinking your scum after the logs and yet you still pushed even when i said i was uncomfortable with it. dunnoh, got tunneled in on him or something. To be perfectly honest I did not mean to lynch him day 2, I had changed my mind. But apparently he got modkilled. uh wat
On January 05 2013 09:01 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 08:59 yamato77 wrote: Marv you are good scum.
tomorrow I tunnel you npnp Riding shotgun on yamato's tunnel train
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On January 10 2013 08:39 Palmar wrote: Foolishness Djodref supersoft froggynoddy Toadesstern thrawn2112 Promethelax Mr. Cheesecake
I don't know, I think there may be multiple mafia in this list.
I'm really interested to see what you are going to do with that list tomorrow ^^
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where that debars kid go?
and why you leave palmar i want to know more......
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##Vote debears
We are lynching me today. Scum will have me set up for later lynches if i live
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Just so you know my thought process:
Out of the 7-9 of you that voted for me: Most of you are town that aren't reading most likely A couple of you are scum most likely
No reason for me to live with that shit going on. You guys will just lynch me later in an important lynch
Not one person besides Vivax has shown why my counter arguments are wrong against vivax. And then Vivax just keeps saying "well I interpret it like this".
If you are town, lynch me. It's better in the long haul. I won't survive against townies who can't read and come up with their own opinions
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