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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On December 10 2012 12:47 marvellosity wrote: as opposed to the people you won't be watching closely? ... your whole summarising comment leaves ambiguity for either dumb or scum, care to commit on which way you're actually leaning? Right now, leaning scum. I would like to know why he thinks I should of been voting for Thrawn from my exchange with him. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On December 10 2012 11:43 debears wrote: @Djo The person that I don't like so far is adam. I would arguably say he has been just as, if not more, aggressive with you on thrawn. Yet, he hasn't voted him. He implied heavily that thrawn was scum, yet doesn't think he's scummy when asked directly. Furthermore, he keeps hard questioning thrawn on a response that thrawn basically said he wouldn't say (even though it seems to me that he was joking) even though he said he doesn't think thrawn is scum. His reaction is feeling very forced You say you don't like me (I assume this means you think i'm scum?), you find my lack of vote strange and that my reactions feel forced. Why make a case like this if you aren't going to follow it with a vote? ##Vote: dabears | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On December 10 2012 10:23 jaybrundage wrote: Hey guys just finished work ten hour shift zzzz. Reading up so far. It appears. That thrawn either made a pretty big scum slip. Or maybe he just made a big mistake as town. There wasn't any point to claiming miller. As if anyone read the OP (as they should it) they would know millers arent self aware. So first your lying. I only seeing this make sense as scum. If you didnt know that miller was self aware. Then your thought process is that you self claim miller. A you can waste a DT check. Or make DT's ineffective against you. As town i see no reason to lie about your role. Please give your reasoning. Because as far it doesn't make any sense. Also I thought the point about debears. Posting a video to not enage in conversation was interesting. Not a scum tell or anything. But a video wont help us find scum some good solid conversation will. Okay, so you call him town or scum, then you call him a liar which only makes sense as scum (your words) This is your first post regarding thrawn's "miller claim" On December 10 2012 10:32 jaybrundage wrote: You tried to brush off bears vote. And then when the whole thread is asking you to explain you dont give an answer. Ok heres my thought of process. IF you dont wanna get lynched today your gonna have to try harder then that. If your a town player then your gonna have to put some effort in your defense because as it is I could totally see my self lynching you. I dont wanna start an early easy bandwagon. But your making a pretty good case for your self why your scum. Here you call him town again, but you "could totally see yourself lynching him" You also add you don't want to "start an early/easy bandwagon". Why not? You think he's scum, right? No wait you think he's town.... So you're threatening to start a bandwagon on someone who you think is town because he's playing anti town? On December 10 2012 10:37 jaybrundage wrote: Dude... Its not whether we believe you. Your lying simple. Not a single persons believes your claim its about why are you lying. For no damn reason. And what purpose would town have to do that. It only makes sense from a mafia perspective Wait... never mind. He's scummy again, there is no other explanation than him being scum!!!!!! On December 10 2012 12:27 jaybrundage wrote: I swear to god if thrawn doesnt explain him self. Hes the most anti town player i have seen in a while. Frustrating really. I am only hesitant to vote him because i dont like early bandwagons in general. It hurts the conversation and shit to read if we all are voting the same person. Regardless of how unlogical his claims maybe (for town). Thrawn can you please drop your sharade and just attempt to explain your reasoning. Or as i said before your gonna get lynched Oh my god you guys he's playing so anti-town!!!!! I AM SO ANGRY, EXPLAIN OR GET LYNCHED, I DONT WANT TO LYNCH YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE TOWN!!!! Chronological order of Jay's comments: - Could be town or scum - He's lying, only makes sense as scum - He's probably town, but I want to lynch him - He's totally scum, I'm just not voting for him because it would be an easy bandwagon! - He's playing super anti-town! Thrawn please shape up because I'll lynch you if I have to! Some questions for everyone to answer: - Why does Jay think Thrawn would be an easy bandwagon? - Why does Jay care if Thrawn is easy to lynch or not, if he truly believe he was scum? - Why does Jay flip-flop so hard from town/anti-town/scum in the course of a couple of hours, without thrawn saying anything that would change his perception? I'll answer them all for you, Jay is scum. ##Vote jaybrundage | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On December 10 2012 12:51 marvellosity wrote: bugs... bugs. you know i hate dangly things and that random 80% is so fucking dangly. I like jay for scum and also clarity's last post on jay. What do you think? I just realized my vote on Palmar is not going to do anything for a while since he's Euro :p | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On December 10 2012 13:26 Clarity_nl wrote: Some questions for everyone to answer: - Why does Jay think Thrawn would be an easy bandwagon? - Why does Jay care if Thrawn is easy to lynch or not, if he truly believe he was scum? - Why does Jay flip-flop so hard from town/anti-town/scum in the course of a couple of hours, without thrawn saying anything that would change his perception? I'll answer them all for you, Jay is scum. ##Vote jaybrundage I don't read too much into people changing their minds a lot, but j's word choice does show scum mentality. Scum are the ones thinking in terms of "easy bandwagons" etc. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On December 10 2012 13:07 Adam4167 wrote: In fact, why are you not voting me dabears? You say you don't like me (I assume this means you think i'm scum?), you find my lack of vote strange and that my reactions feel forced. Why make a case like this if you aren't going to follow it with a vote? ##Vote: dabears It was one paragraph with 4 sentences on you. By no means a "case". Also, my "case"was a response to a question djo asked On December 10 2012 11:43 debears wrote: @Djo The person that I don't like so far is adam. I would arguably say he has been just as, if not more, aggressive with you on thrawn. Yet, he hasn't voted him. He implied heavily that thrawn was scum, yet doesn't think he's scummy when asked directly. Furthermore, he keeps hard questioning thrawn on a response that thrawn basically said he wouldn't say (even though it seems to me that he was joking) even though he said he doesn't think thrawn is scum. His reaction is feeling very forced You on the other hand have these on thrawn On December 10 2012 10:19 Adam4167 wrote: I think you better try to explain what you were hoping to accomplish here. I find this post sits in a stark contrast to your current play, and this is from one of your recent town games (ACME). On December 10 2012 10:28 Adam4167 wrote: Town you from ACME says that you disagree with the idea of millers claiming, and that you don't even know what your thought process would be for deciding if its real or not. Why are you trying to put everyone else in a similar position of confusion? If I wanted to call you scum, I would have. What I want to know is why you are doing what you are doing. On December 10 2012 10:42 Adam4167 wrote: Why are you so defensive? As previously stated, I am not accusing you, I am trying to figure out what your motive is for whatever stunt you're pulling. Your response to that is 'go read the post that says nothing'. Obviously you wanted to be the talking point today, so here we are, get talking. You even use meta and say it's different from his town play. Yeah, you're full of it | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
Hey guys do we want to link our votes to our vote posts in the voting thread? I think it'd be easier to follow everyone's thought patterns if we do | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
you bring up good points. @Marv The whole thrawn thing is tieing me up in these two posts On December 10 2012 09:17 thrawn2112 wrote: i'm miller On December 10 2012 09:19 thrawn2112 wrote: ah, nvm then Idk if I would call that a real claim. Half assed as shit, no special red font. It gives me more of an "i'm joking" feeling Now, if I assume he was serious: That makes me believe it is more likely to come from a townie. I don't see scum just going "im miller", with no reasoning behind it If I assume he's joking (the most likely imo): Here's the snag: What is the point of mafia putting so much pressure on themselves that early with something so dumb? Why wouldn't they check the op to make sure millers are self aware or not? What do you think? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
That's not even the issue. How am I putting anyone in a compromising decision about whether or not to believe the claim when millers aren't even self aware? I don't understand what accusation you're trying to make, it makes no sense in the context of what the OP has to say about millers. [/QUOTE] Dude... Its not whether we believe you. Your lying simple. Not a single persons believes your claim its about why are you lying. For no damn reason. And what purpose would town have to do that. It only makes sense from a mafia perspective[/QUOTE] He says: 1) There's no town mindset in saying it 2) There's a lot of scum mindset Yet, he keeps warning thrawn he'll get lynch if he keeps it up. And the wishy-washiness despite having said the above | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
Ok Clarity ill lay out my thinking for you. First off I have had a scum tell on Thrawn for quite a while now. However I was hoping giving him the benefit of the doubt would prompt him to come out and explain him self. Sadly he hasn't done so. I have also had some bad experiances with me as town going off on easy band wagons and ending up killing a townie day one. This has happened multiple times for me. It may not be so with vets. As we have had some good conversation going on. But i have had games, like i stated before that people all decide to vote someone. And it kills the discussion of the town. Also I dont feel like its necessary to have to vote someone each time my scum reads change. I believe that me saying who i am suspicious of and explaining my reads and voting closer to deadline is fine. i dont know why people make a big deal about that. So in conclusion, Yes i think that thrawn is likely scum. No I have not switched my stance on him, But i have been persistently saying i want him to explain his actions And No i don't feel i need to vote now if my reads are out there. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
It's not that you don't put your vote where your mouth is, it's the REASON you don't vote. You shouldn't care what's easy and what's not, all you need to care about is who is scum, and try to get your strongest scumread lynched. I would love it if you linked some games in where you claimed this has happened to you. I would also love it if you walked us through a scum thrawn's reasoning for doing what he did. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On December 10 2012 14:21 Clarity_nl wrote: So someone makes a big case on you and you react by saying "glad someone is reading my posts"? It's not that you don't put your vote where your mouth is, it's the REASON you don't vote. You shouldn't care what's easy and what's not, all you need to care about is who is scum, and try to get your strongest scumread lynched. I would love it if you linked some games in where you claimed this has happened to you. I would also love it if you walked us through a scum thrawn's reasoning for doing what he did. Lol is my reaction not what you expected  Wait a second, the reason i didn't vote is because i don't feel i have too. A vote doesn't mean anything till the end of the cycle. I have been going after thrawn and trying to get him to respond to me. And get some kind of explanation from him. However he has yet to respond to me. THRAWN STOP GAWD DAMN IGNORING ME. And yes i do care if the lynch seems to easy. Because then from my experience, its likely a bus or a townie were killing. I'll try to find the games if i can. Its been almost a year tho. And i already gave you a scum reasoning to do what he did. On December 10 2012 10:23 jaybrundage wrote: Hey guys just finished work ten hour shift zzzz. Reading up so far. It appears. That thrawn either made a pretty big scum slip. Or maybe he just made a big mistake as town. There wasn't any point to claiming miller. As if anyone read the OP (as they should it) they would know millers arent self aware. So first your lying. I only seeing this make sense as scum. If you didnt know that miller was self aware. Then your thought process is that you self claim miller. A you can waste a DT check. Or make DT's ineffective against you. As town i see no reason to lie about your role. Please give your reasoning. Because as far it doesn't make any sense. Also I thought the point about debears. Posting a video to not enage in conversation was interesting. Not a scum tell or anything. But a video wont help us find scum some good solid conversation will. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
So, between Adam and Jay, which one of them should deserve your vote right now ? Because it looks like to me that the main reason for you to vote Adam is that he asked for your vote and voted against you. I think Clarity made good points against Jay and I'm also leaning town on thrawn right now. I think I know the reason why he doesn't want to explain himself right now and I don't think that my pressure vote is going to work out. @ jay It looks like you are leaning scum on thrawn. Would you care to convince us that he is indeed scum and that we should vote him ? As you can see, the risk to start an early bandwagon on him is not so big. ##Vote jay | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Do you find that a likely story? Keep in mind he claimed super early, if we were in a setup where millers were self-aware he would be at risk of being counter-claimed and being under heavy suspicion and lynched at some point for sure. (it is common for millers to claim early, the later the claim the more likely it is scum because scum likes to wait to make sure there will be no counter-claim). No, your reaction makes no sense to me. Clearly I've read your posts but how can you be happy about it, seeing as (working from the scenario in which you are town) I am clearly misrepresenting you. How can you be happy about that? From your experience an easy lynch is "a bus or a mislynch", which is to say we're either lynching scum or town (dur). So how does that change anything? | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On December 10 2012 13:59 debears wrote: It was one paragraph with 4 sentences on you. By no means a "case". Also, my "case"was a response to a question djo asked You on the other hand have these on thrawn You even use meta and say it's different from his town play. Yeah, you're full of it If that wasn't your case, then what is? I've already explained my reason for using that quote against thrawn, to get his reaction. I did similar in WLIIA mafia on BroodKingEXE. go read it. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On December 10 2012 14:46 Djodref wrote: @ debears So, between Adam and Jay, which one of them should deserve your vote right now ? Because it looks like to me that the main reason for you to vote Adam is that he asked for your vote and voted against you. I think Clarity made good points against Jay and I'm also leaning town on thrawn right now. I think I know the reason why he doesn't want to explain himself right now and I don't think that my pressure vote is going to work out. @ jay It looks like you are leaning scum on thrawn. Would you care to convince us that he is indeed scum and that we should vote him ? As you can see, the risk to start an early bandwagon on him is not so big. ##Vote jay I like Clarity's points on jay, and clarity seems to satisfactorily have jay covered. I'm gonna work on Adam/whoever I feel like | ||
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