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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2012 03:06 GMT
#181
On December 10 2012 12:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
If I was going to assume you were dumb, that would mean that you would pretty much be unreadable.

Assuming you're not dumb, you're more likely to be scum based on your reactions and the fact that you chose to claim miller over what you said in a previous game I hosted. You basically said yourself in Acme that you were not sure how to read miller claims. The #1 thing scum try to do is to remain unreadable. It's an incredibly selfish play, unlike what town want to do: establish themselves as town and help to find scum. Fake claiming is the antithesis to that goal.


why are you rationalising your policy lynch?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 10 2012 03:09 GMT
#182
Cause it's secretly not a policy lynch

Think about it though, if you actually assume he's not an idiot you see that what he did is incredibly scum-favored. Although you still have to assume he was dumb enough to miss the self aware part.

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2012 03:12 GMT
#183
that's a pretty narrow window of dumb you got going on there
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 10 2012 03:16 GMT
#184
On December 10 2012 12:12 marvellosity wrote:
that's a pretty narrow window of dumb you got going on there


who cares, he's dumb regardless of alignment.

The point is that in a previous game, he claimed that millers claiming on d1 were hard to read. So, what to make of him claiming miller d1? He wants to be hard to read.

The policy lynch is killing him over lying, the actual part that makes the lynch good is the fact that he clearly wants to be unreadable.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 10 2012 03:17 GMT
#185
which, to note, is exacerbated by the fact that he dodged the question about why he would claim miller half a dozen times.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2012 03:19 GMT
#186
On December 10 2012 12:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 12:12 marvellosity wrote:
that's a pretty narrow window of dumb you got going on there


who cares, he's dumb regardless of alignment.

The point is that in a previous game, he claimed that millers claiming on d1 were hard to read. So, what to make of him claiming miller d1? He wants to be hard to read.

The policy lynch is killing him over lying, the actual part that makes the lynch good is the fact that he clearly wants to be unreadable.


the problem is you're taking a rational viewpoint to it.

I get the policy lynch but I would bet two cigars that that isn't what he clearly wants. if for example you had thrawn and i making the same actions, you'd probably read different motivations behind it, right?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2012 03:20 GMT
#187
On December 10 2012 12:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
which, to note, is exacerbated by the fact that he dodged the question about why he would claim miller half a dozen times.


that's because if he explained he couldn't catch scum in his awesome trap!!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2012 03:21 GMT
#188
ugh, I hate that I'm spending so many posts talking about this
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 10 2012 03:23 GMT
#189
hahaha you're right.

sadly it means that if we want to win we can't reward this fucker with a lynch.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2012 03:25 GMT
#190
probably not :/

I was musing to myself and wondered whether I should announce before every game I play that I would 100% LAL.

It's annoying having to lynch for scum sometimes
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 03:27 GMT
#191
I swear to god if thrawn doesnt explain him self. Hes the most anti town player i have seen in a while. Frustrating really. I am only hesitant to vote him because i dont like early bandwagons in general.

It hurts the conversation and shit to read if we all are voting the same person. Regardless of how unlogical his claims maybe (for town). Thrawn can you please drop your sharade and just attempt to explain your reasoning. Or as i said before your gonna get lynched
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 10 2012 03:28 GMT
#192
On December 10 2012 12:16 wherebugsgo wrote:The point is that in a previous game, he claimed that millers claiming on d1 were hard to read. So, what to make of him claiming miller d1? He wants to be hard to read.


are you actually saying that I, as scum, in a game where millers aren't aware, because of my past experience in dealing with miller claims, fakeclaimed in order to get people to be extra confused about my alignment? I don't like that you're policy voting, but whatever sometimes emotions get in the way of logic. However I just can't understand the reasoning you're using to call me scum.

@marv nobody said anything about traps, my ego is not that over-inflated. and yes, this conversation is getting a little annoying
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2012 03:31 GMT
#193
On December 10 2012 12:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 12:16 wherebugsgo wrote:The point is that in a previous game, he claimed that millers claiming on d1 were hard to read. So, what to make of him claiming miller d1? He wants to be hard to read.


are you actually saying that I, as scum, in a game where millers aren't aware, because of my past experience in dealing with miller claims, fakeclaimed in order to get people to be extra confused about my alignment? I don't like that you're policy voting, but whatever sometimes emotions get in the way of logic. However I just can't understand the reasoning you're using to call me scum.

@marv nobody said anything about traps, my ego is not that over-inflated. and yes, this conversation is getting a little annoying


On December 10 2012 12:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
of all the responses to my claim wbg's has rubbed me as the scummiest, updating voting thread with my vote


well? isn't that what this is saying?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 10 2012 03:33 GMT
#194
yeah, but there's a difference between the original intentions of what I did and what comes out of it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 10 2012 03:35 GMT
#195
On December 10 2012 12:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah, but there's a difference between the original intentions of what I did and what comes out of it


no one knows your original intentions because you made a stupid play and then refused to explain it (I'm going to presume out of embarrassment, since anything else is just pathetic)

Adam, thoughts on debears?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
December 10 2012 03:42 GMT
#196
On December 10 2012 12:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 12:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah, but there's a difference between the original intentions of what I did and what comes out of it


no one knows your original intentions because you made a stupid play and then refused to explain it (I'm going to presume out of embarrassment, since anything else is just pathetic)

Adam, thoughts on debears?


for someone who thinks I'm scum, you sure have some pretty descriptive words about my town motivations
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 10 2012 03:44 GMT
#197
On December 10 2012 12:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 12:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 10 2012 12:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah, but there's a difference between the original intentions of what I did and what comes out of it


no one knows your original intentions because you made a stupid play and then refused to explain it (I'm going to presume out of embarrassment, since anything else is just pathetic)

Adam, thoughts on debears?


for someone who thinks I'm scum, you sure have some pretty descriptive words about my town motivations


for someone who can't read, you prove stupider by the moment.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
December 10 2012 03:45 GMT
#198
On December 10 2012 12:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 12:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah, but there's a difference between the original intentions of what I did and what comes out of it


no one knows your original intentions because you made a stupid play and then refused to explain it (I'm going to presume out of embarrassment, since anything else is just pathetic)

Adam, thoughts on debears?


He announced in thread to be voting for Thrawn, but the vote never made it into the voting thread, then he builds a case on me around not voting on someone that I had said I wasn't sure of the alignment of.

Ill be watching him closely today.

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2012 03:47 GMT
#199
On December 10 2012 12:45 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 12:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 10 2012 12:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah, but there's a difference between the original intentions of what I did and what comes out of it


no one knows your original intentions because you made a stupid play and then refused to explain it (I'm going to presume out of embarrassment, since anything else is just pathetic)

Adam, thoughts on debears?


He announced in thread to be voting for Thrawn, but the vote never made it into the voting thread, then he builds a case on me around not voting on someone that I had said I wasn't sure of the alignment of.

Ill be watching him closely today.



as opposed to the people you won't be watching closely? ...

your whole summarising comment leaves ambiguity for either dumb or scum, care to commit on which way you're actually leaning?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 10 2012 03:47 GMT
#200
alrighty.

I've concluded from the current events that there's an 80% preliminary chance that Palmar is scum.

Therefore I'm voting him, at least until he comes back and proves me otherwise.

##unvote
##vote Palmar
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