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On November 17 2012 19:10 McVities wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 19:09 -Strider- wrote: Its a shame that Idra will have to play the tournament winner u_u lold so hard. I'd fear someone BK 2-0'd too.
I lol'd too. I heard PvP is a very solid and well rounded matchup, and I also heard Idra's ZvP is amazing. He'll beat Rain no worries, he actually let DRG take games off of him ha ha ha
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wHAT HAPPENED ON bk AND RAIN ? :ooo NO vods YET BLAAARGH........ food poisoning ?
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Wild game between naaaaarchio and moonglade, naaaarchio edges out someone else can do the recap though it's hard to recap multiple streams Naaaaaarchio 1- moonglade
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On November 17 2012 19:11 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 19:09 Chicane wrote:On November 17 2012 19:07 Derrida wrote:On November 17 2012 19:02 Ziggitz wrote: How dense are you people. You wanna throw a series? Two games up to maxed armies with elaborate army positioning and backstabs is not the way to do it. 10 pool vs 16 hatch 16 gas 17 pool is how you do it. Your argument makes no sense, that would be very obvious and fuel the paranoias of conspiracy theorists. Yeah, and it would lead to him potentially getting caught if he made it obvious. It's not difficult to simply play worse later in the game... DISCLAIMER: I am once again not saying that I think Stephano threw it, but people are using such flawed logic to make it seem like it somehow isn't a possibility. I think there's a possibility that you're retarded. I'm not saying you are, but it's still possible.
What a needless personal attack. I'm just being sensible and logical. I'm sorry if it is crushing your dream world where everyone plays for honor and not for money.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 17 2012 19:12 arew wrote: Well, once more. Stephano played pretty sloppy. He missed a lot of injects since the midgame, if you could check how much energy his Queens had. Also, his APM was pretty low the entire time, you should have checked how often he clicks his keyboard, usually he's by far faster. I'm not saying IdrA played bad, no way. He played really well, but I'm saying that Stephano played this not that good as he usually does, guess I'm not the only one who think so. This is accurate.
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On November 17 2012 19:05 StooPidMonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 18:59 HaCkTeR wrote: how much EG paid to stephano for give the win to idra? Your left nut? qft. Anyone saying that a player witch chance to place high has thrown the game away on purpose doesn't know the players and obviously has never competed himself.
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On November 17 2012 19:11 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote: lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win. Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever. Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible.......... Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best. Well, that's what I am assuming... but I am also being reasonable by acknowledging the fact that it is a possibility that they did not in the interests of winning $100k. That's all. It just bothers me that everyone seems so ignorant of that being a very real possibility.
Uhh, that's not being reasonable at all.
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I don't think Stephano throws those games, they were pretty close, but I'm surprised how a lot of people thinks it's not even possible. I mean this kind of move between teammates happens a lot in those tournaments, there is nothing new. Most tournaments (in round robin format) even play team kill first to prevent this. And given the fact there now will probably both Stephano and Idra in R016, with a more comfortable bracket for Stephano, it's normal there are some suspicions.
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Sick G1 between mOOnGLaDe and Nerchio holyshit. You can take the next two Andy!!!!
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On November 17 2012 19:13 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 19:11 nkr wrote:On November 17 2012 19:09 Chicane wrote:On November 17 2012 19:07 Derrida wrote:On November 17 2012 19:02 Ziggitz wrote: How dense are you people. You wanna throw a series? Two games up to maxed armies with elaborate army positioning and backstabs is not the way to do it. 10 pool vs 16 hatch 16 gas 17 pool is how you do it. Your argument makes no sense, that would be very obvious and fuel the paranoias of conspiracy theorists. Yeah, and it would lead to him potentially getting caught if he made it obvious. It's not difficult to simply play worse later in the game... DISCLAIMER: I am once again not saying that I think Stephano threw it, but people are using such flawed logic to make it seem like it somehow isn't a possibility. I think there's a possibility that you're retarded. I'm not saying you are, but it's still possible. What a needless personal attack. I'm just being sensible and logical. I'm sorry if it is crushing your dream world where everyone plays for honor and not for money.
I'm just using your own flawed way of arguing.
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On November 17 2012 19:13 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 19:11 nkr wrote:On November 17 2012 19:09 Chicane wrote:On November 17 2012 19:07 Derrida wrote:On November 17 2012 19:02 Ziggitz wrote: How dense are you people. You wanna throw a series? Two games up to maxed armies with elaborate army positioning and backstabs is not the way to do it. 10 pool vs 16 hatch 16 gas 17 pool is how you do it. Your argument makes no sense, that would be very obvious and fuel the paranoias of conspiracy theorists. Yeah, and it would lead to him potentially getting caught if he made it obvious. It's not difficult to simply play worse later in the game... DISCLAIMER: I am once again not saying that I think Stephano threw it, but people are using such flawed logic to make it seem like it somehow isn't a possibility. I think there's a possibility that you're retarded. I'm not saying you are, but it's still possible. What a needless personal attack. I'm just being sensible and logical. I'm sorry if it is crushing your dream world where everyone plays for honor and not for money.
Actually, what he said is correct logic wise.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Hive tech and massive over saturation at the 3rd without mining the gas, lowely gives zero fucks.
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On November 17 2012 19:13 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 19:11 nkr wrote:On November 17 2012 19:09 Chicane wrote:On November 17 2012 19:07 Derrida wrote:On November 17 2012 19:02 Ziggitz wrote: How dense are you people. You wanna throw a series? Two games up to maxed armies with elaborate army positioning and backstabs is not the way to do it. 10 pool vs 16 hatch 16 gas 17 pool is how you do it. Your argument makes no sense, that would be very obvious and fuel the paranoias of conspiracy theorists. Yeah, and it would lead to him potentially getting caught if he made it obvious. It's not difficult to simply play worse later in the game... DISCLAIMER: I am once again not saying that I think Stephano threw it, but people are using such flawed logic to make it seem like it somehow isn't a possibility. I think there's a possibility that you're retarded. I'm not saying you are, but it's still possible. What a needless personal attack. I'm just being sensible and logical. I'm sorry if it is crushing your dream world where everyone plays for honor and not for money.
IdrA fans being IdrA fans, don't worry about it. lol
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On November 17 2012 19:04 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 19:03 SWayne wrote:On November 17 2012 19:01 Savant.GL wrote:Great play from idra, proving he is one of the best foreigner zergs On November 17 2012 19:01 SWayne wrote: Nice graft by Stephano by letting IdrA win. What a fail from Blizzard... it was obv that Stephano would let IdrA win to have 2 EG players in the Ro16. imbecile Yep calling IdrA one of the best Foreigners is really imbecile. You know, I don't even like IdrA either, that doesn't make me blind sighted though. He played very well today.
It isnt about IdrA being a bad player. But every time he makes it out of groupes everybody starts screaming that he is one of the best foreigners. Yet, doesnt have the consistency that players like Naniwa and Stephano have.
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On November 17 2012 19:11 Grumbels wrote: would idra be the best zvz player this event?
Yes, I think so at least.
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Nerchio vs MoonGlade
Game 1 - Daybreak
Moonglade and Nerchio both started out with quick hatches, but also both with a relatively quick speed. Nerchio quickly teched to lair and into mutas, while MG prioritized upgrades for zerglings. With zergslings, MG cancelled and killed Nerchios third. MG came in for a big ling-attack while the mutas of nerchio was killing off the third of MG, but it was held without much damage. MGs upgraded lings kept being active and aggressive and managed queen and drone kills in Nerchios natural. MG, though down 30 supply, managed to take down Nerchios third once again and as a result, Nerchio went on the offensive and a base-race was the result. Things stabilized with both players still on two bases, but with much degraded economies and tech. In the end, Nerchios larger army won out as the units of MG on the map were cleaned up and a frontal assault took down the remaining forces of MG. Nerchio takes a frantic, messy game 1, 1:0
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On November 17 2012 19:13 DrakeFZX3 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 19:11 Chicane wrote:On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote: lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win. Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever. Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible.......... Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best. Well, that's what I am assuming... but I am also being reasonable by acknowledging the fact that it is a possibility that they did not in the interests of winning $100k. That's all. It just bothers me that everyone seems so ignorant of that being a very real possibility. Uhh, that's not being reasonable at all.
It's not reasonable to acknowledge that a player may lose a game in the interests of having an easier path to the finals (when they can look ahead in the bracket)? Please explain why.
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On November 17 2012 19:12 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2012 19:10 McVities wrote:On November 17 2012 19:09 -Strider- wrote: Its a shame that Idra will have to play the tournament winner u_u lold so hard. I'd fear someone BK 2-0'd too. I lol'd too. I heard PvP is a very solid and well rounded matchup, and I also heard Idra's ZvP is amazing. He'll beat Rain no worries, he actually let DRG take games off of him ha ha ha I heard that people have 65%+ win rates in PvP and that the better player wins on that given day. It is not coin flip.
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Austria24413 Posts
So, HerO vs Stephano. Where, when?
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On November 17 2012 19:12 arew wrote: Well, once more. Stephano played pretty sloppy. He missed a lot of injects since the midgame, if you could check how much energy his Queens had. Also, his APM was pretty low the entire time, you should have checked how often he clicks his keyboard, usually he's by far faster. I'm not saying IdrA played bad, no way. He played really well, but I'm saying that Stephano played this not that good as he usually does, guess I'm not the only one who think so.
Glad I'm not the only one watching player cams.
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