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Meh - you didn't really think that through. You're never ever going to get a vig-shot. Ever. If you're town, scum are going to roleblock you until the cows come home (which is a long ass time, for those not familiar with American colloquialisms.)
You're going to keep on living each night, and each morning you'll be saying "Guys I swear I'm a vig...it's this damned ROLEBLOCKER!"
Town isn't going to have any choice but to lynch you because not only have you had myself and Probulous on your shit since D1, but you're going to look even worse if/when I get nightkilled and flip town. Town is GOING TO HAVE to kill you. It's just a matter of when.
The correct answer was "Tomorrow if I get Roleblocked".
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Just because you're on my shit doesn't make me any less town. Town either believes I'm town now and that I got roleblocked or they don't.
You're pushing the idea that I have to be lynched now because it could cause trouble later. No, you only lynch me now if town is convinced I'm scum.
That is the correct answer my friend.
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No, I'm pushing the idea that you have to be lynched now because you're scum. I'm pushing the idea that if you aren't lynched today, then town IS going to have to lynch you eventually because of your claim and the suspicion that's on you now. Stop twisting my words. This was your idea.
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I'm not twisting anything. If town deems me scum I die now.
I do not have to die later because of my claim and the suspicion on me now. I get roleblocked every night, so what? I can still very much play for town in the coming days and that will clear my innocence.
There is no having to lynch me eventually.
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Meh - I disagree, but clearly that's going to be happening a lot this game. -.-
Yeah this isn't gonna work. I can't reconcile your D1 play with your claim and I'm too convinced you're scum to have a serious conversation about anything. It's best if we just kinda...yeah, leave it at that.
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Heyo! Just got into work and wonder of wonders the deadline is extended. Hoorah for me /dance
Had a brief skim of the happenings and will take a closer look. Marvel claiming vig is a null thing to me. We can never know if he is telling the truth because scum will just roleblock him so we end up in the same position tomorrow. I even think that you having the same scum read today as yesterday is not relevant to your claim because vigs hardly ever shoot night 1. Changing your read just before the lynch however is an interesting point.
I will take another look at the early interactions between you two because VE got quite emotional early in the day before you two got into each other again. Why marv changed his read the second time and not the first is a question I would like answered.
If we are going to make a decision n marv, we make it now. Otherwise we waste another day and lose more townies overnight.
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Yeah, it isn't gonna work. I said ask me anything and all you managed to "ask" me was that if I don't get lynched now then I necessarily have to get lynched later.
If you really think I'm scum you should be taking this opportunity to question me on shit.
Even when I lie cravenly and absolutely about my reads (...) you should be able to get something from it.
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Probulous, if you have any questions, same thing, please ask and I will answer asap.
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On June 27 2012 08:31 Probulous wrote: Heyo! Just got into work and wonder of wonders the deadline is extended. Hoorah for me /dance
Had a brief skim of the happenings and will take a closer look. Marvel claiming vig is a null thing to me. We can never know if he is telling the truth because scum will just roleblock him so we end up in the same position tomorrow. I even think that you having the same scum read today as yesterday is not relevant to your claim because vigs hardly ever shoot night 1. Changing your read just before the lynch however is an interesting point.
I will take another look at the early interactions between you two because VE got quite emotional early in the day before you two got into each other again. Why marv changed his read the second time and not the first is a question I would like answered.
If we are going to make a decision n marv, we make it now. Otherwise we waste another day and lose more townies overnight.
When/what are you referring to?
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Probulous: this was the post where I called him probably town. Look at the timestamps of the argument we had on that page (and possibly the one before). All the posts are superclose together. It was that intensity at the time that gave me that read.
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On June 22 2012 08:53 VisceraEyes wrote: LOL OKAY!!
On June 22 2012 09:20 VisceraEyes wrote: :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Anyways look what I found guys!
On June 22 2012 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote: The original question that was posed you never answered Marv, wtf? You told everyone to go look for themselves!
There was a massive argument between VE and marv a fair while after these posts. It was way more intense though so maybe that is why he changed his mind.
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Yeah see my post above if you missed it ^
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On June 27 2012 08:31 marvellosity wrote: Yeah, it isn't gonna work. I said ask me anything and all you managed to "ask" me was that if I don't get lynched now then I necessarily have to get lynched later.
If you really think I'm scum you should be taking this opportunity to question me on shit.
Even when I lie cravenly and absolutely about my reads (...) you should be able to get something from it.
Really marv? Really? Because apparently you think that I'm scum...where are your questions to me? Why aren't you "questiong me on shit"? Why should I be held to this standard but you shouldn't? Why do the questions have to come from me, to you? Because you're on the block? Because you're about to be lynched? How about you provide your own content unprompted? Yeah? No? Well why not? I mean, you're town right? And you're about to die? Why not leave town with something to remember you by? You know, something we can cherish and hold dear if you flip town?
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I have just under an hour until I have to leave work to head to a jazz fest. concert and I won't be back from then until after the deadline so I need to know if we're switching votes pretty fast here.
I honestly don't know what to think about marv right now. It's illogical for either scum or town to be in the situation he's in right now. If he's scum, like prplhz said, he had to have known that he was likely to lose the 1-on-1 with VE by bringing up his case again today, and he'd be taking a huge gamble that a fake claim would save him. If he's town, we just have to believe that he was dumb and/or cocky enough to not answer a couple questions straight up... and that he actually believes VE is scummy.... But again, scum would want to push easy lynches, not someone who everyone else thinks is town. Like, it's bad town play but it's got to be even worse scum play.
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Look at my filter today. I have provided plenty of content, including my thoughts on most players in the game.
The reason I don't bother questioning you on anything right now is because you blow up like that post right there and that isn't going to help me stop town lynching me.
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On June 27 2012 08:46 marvellosity wrote: Look at my filter today. I have provided plenty of content, including my thoughts on most players in the game.
The reason I don't bother questioning you on anything right now is because you blow up like that post right there and that isn't going to help me stop town lynching me.
But you thought that maybe if I questioned you the outcome would be different? One of two guys pushing your lynch? That doesn't make sense at all, you had to realize this would be the outcome regardless of who was asking. This answer is INSUFFICIENT!!!
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ok VE. Actually I think most people are capable of asking me questions without turning into a nutcase. I forgot that was not the case with you, for that my apologies.
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I'm not a nutcase...and I don't appreciate the sarcasm.
But what the fuck ever, you're gonna die anyway. If this is how you're gonna play good fucking riddance.
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I'm not playing anything. I'm inviting town to have a field day by asking me anything they want, and hopefully it will help give them a townread on me. That's all I want right now.
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On June 27 2012 07:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vote Count - 5 Hours to go risk.nuke (0): Rastaban Zephirdd (RIP) (0): Snarfs rastaban (1): xsksc VisceraEyes (0): marvellosity marvellosity (4): VisceraEyes, Probulous, Shraft, Mattchew xsksc (1): risk.nuke Shraft (1): prplhz Mattchew (1): Rastaban Not voted (2): Snarfs, marvellosity This is wrong. My vote is currently on marv.
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