• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:43
CET 22:43
KST 06:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA17
StarCraft 2
General
SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft 2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? What happened to TvZ on Retro? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2191 users

Movie Star Mini Mafia! - Page 84

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 82 83 84
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 22:49:20
July 02 2012 22:43 GMT
#1661
In Mafia you get wins you don't really deserve and losses you don't deserve either.

Think about the other factions. Mafia sat on their fucking ass all game and the SK managed to hit townies at the end when he was aiming for scum.

Anyway, you didn't really play badly. I still had a townread on you ^^

EDIT: To VE: I wouldn't have bloody had to shoot Matt if you hadn't unvoted him
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 02 2012 22:48 GMT
#1662
EDIT: To VE: I wouldn't have bloody had to shoot Matt if you hadn't unvoted him


Ouch!

That was a day that started with good intentions (the marv is no longer scum thing), followed by a really bad no-lynch followed by a ROFL WTF shot. When it rains it pours.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 22:49 GMT
#1663
Obviously I'm only poking fun at VE. But it does go to show that despite all the shit that went on day 1 and day 2, we had actually arrived at a majority for a scum lynch on day 2 by hook or by crook, with just a little bit of emotion/bad luck that prevented it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 02 2012 22:51 GMT
#1664
No matter how hard we tried we failed to lose this game
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 23:18 GMT
#1665
On July 03 2012 07:51 Probulous wrote:
No matter how hard we tried we failed to lose this game


Swings and roundabouts dear. I had 3/4 scum day 2 in Magic Mini Mafia and town lost that one.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 23:23:28
July 02 2012 23:19 GMT
#1666
honestly this might sound retarded but the end result was pretty funny.

One guy is left alive, the one person no one else in the game truly noticed for the most part. All 3 factions failed somehow and no one really had a satisfactory result. It might have been labeled as a town victory but really no one truly won lol.

one of the weirdest endgames I've seen, for sure.

e: as for the shit flinging thing, it's all circumstantial but I think it comes down to the risk vs reward and the reasoning of the players.

It's truly hard to tell what VE's alignment is, for at least me personally. However in these types of situations with him and with other players in the past it has come down to small things. In LI it was because VE failed to answer a simple question about a scumread. During that I thought Toad was town for the longest time until his completely unnecessary and really bad vet claim (at which point I doubted that read too) although that game was prematurely ended, so no one really found out what the result would've been.

I myself have caused these types of situations as scum mostly. In Couples Therapy I destroyed the thread by calling chaoser scum and twisting everything he said. It netted us the medic (because of a GM fake claim lol) and it was one of the most controversial endgames I can remember. That's an interesting read and it particularly shows why these types of things are so profoundly damaging to town.

I've done similar things in almost all of my scum games bar my most recent ones (because people really like vigging me when I'm scum and I get scum in setups I don't like lol). My first scum game I did it against Nisani and in Storm I basically did it with everyone.

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 23:20 GMT
#1667
hey bugs, HEY. Town won. TOWN WON yo.

But yeah the end was funny.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 02 2012 23:39 GMT
#1668
It is probably appropriate that this is my first win then. I have a weird mafia record so this fits in perfectly.

I know bugs is capable of causing a shit fest for scum, it is his style that alerted me to the possibilities.

Bugs, you joining in Ver's game?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 00:08:16
July 03 2012 00:07 GMT
#1669
I might, dunno yet.

I've been kinda wary of weird setups cause I have balance issues with most of them lol

e: well recently I've cared about balance but I think I might join it since I wanna have a fun game. dunno yet
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 03 2012 00:36 GMT
#1670
Given the crazy setup I am sure there will be imbalance stuff but that is half the fun. It looks like everyone for himself which should make things interesting.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
July 03 2012 05:34 GMT
#1671
I've read about half the post-game comments and honestly the fact that I was that easily determined as scum in end-game is a huge failure for me and all I need to know that I need to work on. I shouldn't have to fake-claim in endgame if I've played correctly. That's why I just shut up for the end of the game. If I've already been determined as anti-town then an SK fake claim is going to do nothing for my own personal growth and I didn't want to throw any more pressure on my teammates. I believe it's Ace's guide that says "if you can't say anything that will keep yourself alive then don't say anything at all". I was dead in the water so I stopped posting. Worked out well because I was busy all weekend but that's just lucky.

I think I played better than my first scum game but I had better town against me. One thing that pissed me off was the whole "Oh, he's being protected so he must be important scum" argument. As me and Mattchew showed and VE and Toad showed in LI and others have shown in the past, relying on connections is dumb as shit. Mattchew was scum in the water on day 1 when he clearly didn't give a shit what marv's response to his question (and his question was dumb and you guys should have called him on it [look at Mini X where town calls wiggles out on his dumb question]) and prplhz was... lynching MrZ for no damn good reason and should have been called out too.

I just want to play town again so I have a chance to call people out again on things like this. At the same time though, I was terrible scum myself. I was looking for easy town mistakes that I could call out on people and it fucked me because slOosh immediately recognized it.

SlOosh for town mvp imo.

Don't really care about the rest. I learned a bunch and I will be better for next game TL towns so watch the fuck out (except if you mislynch me when I'm town Imma be pissed).

Probulous, hopefully one day we'll be on the same team. Glad to gift wrap your first win for you buddy . Maybe next time you'll earn it :D hwehwehwe!
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
July 03 2012 06:19 GMT
#1672
yeah but the problem wasn't that you would incriminate teammates by claiming something. The point of claiming SK at that point is that even if town thinks you're some sort of scum, they don't want to kill SK even though the SK is an anti town player.

The whole point of Ace's quote of "go down without saying a word" is so that noob scums don't incriminate their teammates or give away information when it could be possible to just afk and wifom the town out of a lynch. Obviously that wasn't going to happen.

If you stop posting then you resign yourself and your team to lose. You should know that in a lylo situation town will be wary of killing the SK (while mafia can't shoot the SK without sacrificing a KP) so it should be a no-brainer. Force a 1v1 and manipulate your way into lynching the other guy = victory. It's not much work, really. It's just one cycle in which you actually have to think and do something; for the rest of them you can coast by if town is killing themselves.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2012 10:32 GMT
#1673
On July 03 2012 14:34 Snarfs wrote:
One thing that pissed me off was the whole "Oh, he's being protected so he must be important scum" argument. As me and Mattchew showed and VE and Toad showed in LI and others have shown in the past, relying on connections is dumb as shit.


So you're calling me retarded for picking you out as roleblocker for reasons *you* fail to properly grasp. Thanks bro.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
July 04 2012 03:06 GMT
#1674
On July 03 2012 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 14:34 Snarfs wrote:
One thing that pissed me off was the whole "Oh, he's being protected so he must be important scum" argument. As me and Mattchew showed and VE and Toad showed in LI and others have shown in the past, relying on connections is dumb as shit.


So you're calling me retarded for picking you out as roleblocker for reasons *you* fail to properly grasp. Thanks bro.

I'm really sorry, I was drunk when I wrote that . I didn't mean for it to come off as harsh as it did. You played well after the whole VE thing ended and deserved the win.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 12:21:22
July 04 2012 12:19 GMT
#1675
On July 04 2012 12:06 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
On July 03 2012 14:34 Snarfs wrote:
One thing that pissed me off was the whole "Oh, he's being protected so he must be important scum" argument. As me and Mattchew showed and VE and Toad showed in LI and others have shown in the past, relying on connections is dumb as shit.


So you're calling me retarded for picking you out as roleblocker for reasons *you* fail to properly grasp. Thanks bro.

I'm really sorry, I was drunk when I wrote that . I didn't mean for it to come off as harsh as it did. You played well after the whole VE thing ended and deserved the win.


Thing is, normally I agree with you, one at a time. But when town are already outnumbered and you need to pick out a particular role, you have to be more wide-ranging.

Interestingly 'connections' suggested most of all a matt/prplhz/snarfs team, but my read on Shrafts screwed with this.

e.g. a couple of things from my notes on you:

"Day 1, wishy washy. pressures prplhz but never follows up."
"'attacks' matt but no real pressure."

On Matt:

"odd jibe at prplhz."
"attacks prplhz for timing on Zeph case. Backs down because of error. So just rastaban/marv."

or prplhz:

"kinda attacks matt"

i.e. a lot of interaction that wasn't REALLY interaction.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
July 04 2012 22:54 GMT
#1676
Yea, I was reflecting on a lot of that myself. Definitely something for me to work on, and I appreciate you posting your notes for me
Prev 1 82 83 84
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 18m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 466
SteadfastSC 214
ForJumy 40
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15869
Calm 2671
firebathero 113
Dewaltoss 101
NaDa 26
League of Legends
Trikslyr68
Counter-Strike
fl0m5602
allub185
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu538
Other Games
Grubby5850
FrodaN2265
Beastyqt673
shahzam339
C9.Mang0127
Sick97
Mew2King90
ZombieGrub52
KnowMe44
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream271
Other Games
Algost 5
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 166
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Eskiya23 22
• FirePhoenix13
• mYiSmile16
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2980
League of Legends
• Doublelift2564
• TFBlade1092
Other Games
• imaqtpie1196
• Shiphtur264
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 18m
Wardi Open
14h 18m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 11h
Wardi Open
1d 14h
OSC
1d 15h
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.