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On November 05 2011 02:44 Kurumi wrote:I am taking notes while re-reading the thread, sometimes looking what's new, so please wait  About the claim, how many votes we've had on the Team Red21? 3? Was such "move" needed? I understand that claiming is last resort for both scum and town. I think if we've got a fake claim right here, Parity Cop will get to the truth in two night hopefully. Anyway, assuming the claim is true, what should we do if is Jailor is present? Would locking them be a good decision? With Doctor it's risk-gain thing as always, Mafia might but does not need to hit them. As for Jailor protect, we might avoid getting them killed. The thing is, we're not moving on with any of our powers. No check through PC and no check through offensive jailing, but Mafia got their check and they're one step ahead of us. With this in mind, my opinion about no-lynch has changed. In this situation, we can't give the unnecessary edge to Scum.
Jailer should jail tonight for two reasons:
-Discourages mafia from hitting red21. If we tell jailer not to jail then theres only a 33% chance of them being protected vs 66% chance.
-If we have a jailer, red21 will have to claim they were jailed tomorrow. This way if its a setup with doc+jailer they will be CCd tomorrow.
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EDIT IN BOLD:So for forumite and prp go for those easy lynches of lurkers (their cases against SS and Nipple mainly talk about how they're not contributing much and thus they're scum) and don't actually write any real cases against active people is really suspicious. Notice how prp immediately stopped going after my team.
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1. sandroba & Sevryn Deconduo - TEAM SS
FOS: still nothing new: sandorba, advocating the horrible Kuru nolynchplan proves him to be town is WIFOM Sevrym out.
2. Forumite & prplhz - TEAM VIKING
lot of stuff, no content. Still my opinion
3. Radfield & wherebugsgo - TEAM CHEZINU
town: confirmed through wbgs meta//not believing the claim
4. Kurumi & RebirthOfLeGenD - TEAM NIPPLE
minorFOS: both busy, both didnt read the thread. Kuru started the nolynchthing. dont know what to think of that. Wifom
5. Crofty & Gmarshal - TEAM LIQUID
minorFOS: didnt mention teamSS, jumped on teamred27 and forced a claim. looks bad if SS flips red.
7. chaoser & hyshes - TEAM EDWARD
likely town: looks okay, as stated before, chaosers behavior doesnt ring any alarmbells
8. iGrok & Katzeleute Bumatlarge - TEAM SWITZERLAND
minorFOS: nothing new. delivered teamSS
9. redFF & kitaman27 - TEAM RED21
likely town, due claim: I trust this claim as stated before
ah i just wanted to send that to grey, but i guess it's okay if you all read that.
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On November 03 2011 08:31 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 08:00 GreYMisT wrote:
One thing that will be interesting this game will be analyzing the behavior of teams. do we judge the 2 players as a unit, looking for scum behavior in both? Or is one player acting scummy enough to vote. Tricky... Two posters means twice the risk of mistakes, I would have liked to say that means it´s twice as easy to find scum, but Town make stupid scumslips too. I think we´ll have to take it on a case-by-case basis.
On November 05 2011 01:08 Forumite wrote:
I don´t have much time to post. I just want to say that I support GM's case and throwing mine and prplhz's vote to support it. We won´t be here for the lynch, but I think it´s the best place to put that vote right now, so that´s what we have to go by. If something huge comes up before the deadline then I expect there to be enough people online that one vote won´t much matter.
##Unvote
##Vote Team Red21
Also: FoS Nipple, post moar!
The first quote makes me dizzy.
"Town make stupid scumslips too"
This sounds SO WRONG! I mean.. How can You as town "scumslip"? Did You mean posting with scum-like agenda? That's Your post. An excuse for incoming "scumslips".
Second, I quite understand voting for the Team Red21 (though I think the explanation is not top notch..) but if they're treating it like "it might not matter so oh well" why aren't they voting us? This stance puzzles me.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
TEAM SWITZERLAND, TEAM EDWARD, TEAM LIQUID, TEAM SS does anyone strongly oppose lynching one of these four teams?
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we have to pick a lynch and then just go for it
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On November 05 2011 03:09 kitaman27 wrote:
TEAM SWITZERLAND, TEAM EDWARD, TEAM LIQUID, TEAM SS does anyone strongly oppose lynching one of these four teams?
I DO! I think your teammate does as well given his stance on Viking lol
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On November 05 2011 03:09 kitaman27 wrote:
TEAM SWITZERLAND, TEAM EDWARD, TEAM LIQUID, TEAM SS does anyone strongly oppose lynching one of these four teams?
I strongly oppose lynching Liquid, I oppose lynching SS and Switzerland though I think we should still consider them.
GM hasn't done anything that is blatantly scummy (to me) yet, so I'm not suspicious of his team quite yet. Switzerland = iGrok pretty much and he hasn't done much of anything, but that doesn't mean he's scum. Team SS is the most suspicious of these three (Switzerland+Liquid+SS) and that's primarily because of how sandro's plan is two-sided and it's really unclear as to what he's pushing.
With all of these teams, we have players who will contribute if they are town and will probably get shot if they are right. So, let's not lynch them and do the work of scum for them.
Therefore, I still think team Edward is a good bet for today.
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On November 05 2011 02:59 supersoft wrote:
1. sandroba & Sevryn Deconduo - TEAM SS
FOS: still nothing new: sandorba, advocating the horrible Kuru nolynchplan proves him to be town is WIFOM Sevrym out.
2. Forumite & prplhz - TEAM VIKING
lot of stuff, no content. Still my opinion
3. Radfield & wherebugsgo - TEAM CHEZINU
town: confirmed through wbgs meta//not believing the claim
4. Kurumi & RebirthOfLeGenD - TEAM NIPPLE
minorFOS: both busy, both didnt read the thread. Kuru started the nolynchthing. dont know what to think of that. Wifom
5. Crofty & Gmarshal - TEAM LIQUID
minorFOS: didnt mention teamSS, jumped on teamred27 and forced a claim. looks bad if SS flips red.
7. chaoser & hyshes - TEAM EDWARD
likely town: looks okay, as stated before, chaosers behavior doesnt ring any alarmbells
8. iGrok & Katzeleute Bumatlarge - TEAM SWITZERLAND
minorFOS: nothing new. delivered teamSS
9. redFF & kitaman27 - TEAM RED21
likely town, due claim: I trust this claim as stated before
ah i just wanted to send that to grey, but i guess it's okay if you all read that.
that last line makes very little sense
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##Vote Team Viking
i looked over the case and i agree with it, ima keep being useless now.
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in all seriousness we need a lynch and this is as good a bet as any
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Team viking attempted to bandwagon twice, first on Team SS and then on Team red21.
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On November 05 2011 04:14 redFF wrote:
##Vote Team Viking
i looked over the case and i agree with it, ima keep being useless now.
wut
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On November 05 2011 01:08 Forumite wrote:
I don´t have much time to post. I just want to say that I support GM's case and throwing mine and prplhz's vote to support it. We won´t be here for the lynch, but I think it´s the best place to put that vote right now, so that´s what we have to go by. If something huge comes up before the deadline then I expect there to be enough people online that one vote won´t much matter.
##Unvote
##Vote Team Red21
Also: FoS Nipple, post moar!
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Dammit.
In the hour and a half it took me to get back from work, the thread went from deadly quiet to red bull in a kindergarten.
So, redFF and kitaman have claimed Parity Cop (not sure how you shade blue on these forums), which I am inclined to believe, for now, as if they are lying we will find out sure enough. Not what I would think would be the smartest move though...
We do need a lynch. Not lynching gives us no data, and just allows the mafia to get ahead.
Putting suggestions forth is good, though I am cautious of creating an easy bandwagon which the mafia can jump on.
I, myself am inclined to go for either Team Edward, as I feel they haven't really done much which sets them into the "likely town" bracket for me; or Team Viking for similar reasons (though, worrying they have a couple of votes already).
These are just my musings for now, that hopefully can be put to a decisive lynch, but I haven't really confered with my teambro, as I think he is at work now. Regardless, I will ensure we do vote.
Also please excuse my lack of, lets say, "quote posting" so far, to back up my thoughts. Still struggling to remember which dude is in which team, consistently. Been many a moment in the last 24hours, when I have been trudging though the massive torrent of posts, and been like "OMG, name35 said this, and sillynamebob said this! they must be a mafia team!" and been like halfway though a long accusatory post, before I realized they aren't actually in the same team  . Its the weekend now, so I will get up to speed.
So, Viking or Edward?
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##Vote Team Viking
Why?
Well, I filtered Forumite's and prplhz posts.
First of all, prplhz had confusing posting style (no puncation or capital letters) which he changed after people told him it is "not quite townie".
+ Show Spoiler +On November 03 2011 10:02 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 09:56 GMarshal wrote:On November 03 2011 09:49 kitaman27 wrote:On November 03 2011 09:48 GMarshal wrote:
Hey! I know namecalling is *hilarious*, but its not conducive to finding scum, so please focus on that instead.
Oh and prplhz is scum, he is deliberately derailing the town.
##Vote: TEAM VIKING
Could you elaborate? Filter him. His grammar and spelling is annoying and he's pushing nonesense that doesn't further finding scum. I really thought that using bad grammar and no punctuation and saying "u" instead of "you" for a while would trigger someone to go for me just because it ticked them off. I kinda stopped when kitaman27 asked me to because I thought that a couple of pages would be enough. So what kind of nonsense am I pushing that doesn't further finding scum? I thought hyshes' statement was pretty weird and I pursued that, as did some other people so there must have been something to it. You have posted a great big picture and then said that lurkers aren't too cool. Then you want to "sit back until later when we can talk about power roles". Well I guess what I think about that should be obvious to most people.
He did that on purpose too. Why would You try to puzzle Town, if You were Town too? It makes no sense to make You less readable.
He called my plan pro-mafia but never pushed my lynch.
Forumite on the other hand, besides that "scumslipping Town" has shown something so scummy that hurts my eyes:
He made a case, never pushed it himself, never voted for me and RoL, just like he was waiting for someone to pick it up.
That's really scummy, it's trying to distance Yourself from the lynch, trying to divert attention on another person. Townies don't fear getting connected, might fear being wrong, but being wrong doesn't make You scum. Townies make cases and PUSH them, show their name, make the lynch happen. Also, entire case is based on us being a bit inactive, lynching lurkers is one of the easiest jobs ever:
"They don't post enough"
"Yup, good reason"
Tadam, no opinion voiced besides "they aren't as active as they should be".
Summary:
Team Viking fos'd us couple of times, Forumite created small case but never really pushed it, looking like he was waiting for someone to pick it up. They're afraid to take action and get put on the spotlight.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 05 2011 04:48 redFF wrote:
VIKING GOGO
Not if TeamRed21 can help it!
##Unvote Viking
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