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[G] The art of TvZ Han Bang-1 Vessel 3 Tank Timing

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petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-09 14:33:58
March 03 2009 21:56 GMT
#1
sorry

basic summary of what happened:
1. i watched a bunch of replays to try to get better at tvz, wrote down a basic bo, and i had a couple of extra hours on a friday at work so i explained all of the things and formatted it pretty
2. lower level players thanked me, higher up players made some corrections and helped me make it better. Some terran nerds who write garbage posts and get flamed for what they write flamed me(cus thats what happens to them) about what i wrote (i just copied some replay so wtf does it matter).
3. I end up playing two series of games, one of which is against nintu's supposed b- friend who I went 1:1 with, I played extremely nervous and robotic losing the first game but I was able to compose myself in the second game. After talking about the game and saying gg's to the zerg he apparently said I was an extremely unskilled player and blamed his loss to me on painkillers. I played a second series with this ramen247 guy who dominated me two games in a row (2nd game with 9 pool, my tvz bane for some reason) and I decided to stop playing the game competitively -- I have major stress problems and I'm not able to compose myself in serious matches. Without hope of playing the game at a high level the fun kind of dies out you know?
4. I deleted the guide and my post responses, basically because of negative critiques from a pretty large group of people. Yeah I did it for attention, but not from the community -- from them. If you go back and read their posts I don't see what else they could have wanted other then my reputation trashed and the guide removed -- so there they go.
5. I bought wc3 and I'm probably going to lose a bunch of games because I cant outmacro people with 55 apm and I'm just going to come back to starcraft in a week and just D bash until I feel better.

I figured this would have been done a long time ago but I guess it didnt -- it would be nice if a mod closed this as it hasn't contained any real strategy discussion for the last few days

A noob friend of mine who I didn't even know browsed tl asked me to repost the guide back up but all I have saved is the first two pages or so. If anyone for whatever reason has it saved as a word doc or something if you could pm it to me so I could give it to him that would be great -- thanks

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masami.sc
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States445 Posts
March 03 2009 21:59 GMT
#2
Wow, this is really useful, especially the part about not moving out with just 1 vessel. I would often roll out whenever I had 1 vessel and 3 tanks, without checking his hive timing. Thanks for the tip. Great guide by the way!
mmmmm...
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
March 03 2009 22:10 GMT
#3
this is how you write a guide!

goddamn, this is excellent
allowicious
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States972 Posts
March 03 2009 22:11 GMT
#4
wow

so much terran help out here lately.
i haven't read it all the way through yet, but from what i've seen, it looks very comprehensive and well-thought out

good job!
lalalalala~~~
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
March 03 2009 22:19 GMT
#5
Terran's are going to take over on icc Never a good thing
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
March 03 2009 22:20 GMT
#6
excellent guide!
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-09 13:44:10
March 03 2009 22:24 GMT
#7
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Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
March 03 2009 22:38 GMT
#8
This is a great guide that i find really helpful. However, as with any long build order like this, losing econ in the beginning will screw up the rest of the timings.
#1 Flash Fan
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
March 03 2009 22:46 GMT
#9
thank god you wrote this, I kept having to make little BO guides in about 1567 strategy forum posts before
My. Copy. Is. Here.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
March 03 2009 23:03 GMT
#10



+ Show Spoiler +
I play zerg
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LaLaBye
Profile Joined February 2009
United States90 Posts
March 03 2009 23:07 GMT
#11
Thanks so much petzergling, you've always been my hero. Any chance sc2gg will let you finish your FUCKING AWESOME terran guide?
What do you mean the LOSER has to say GG?
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
March 03 2009 23:18 GMT
#12
Thank you very much for taking the time to write this up, this seems to be an excellent guide. Really glad to see so much help for Terrans around here, we're in dire need
Adams Æbler
petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-09 13:44:28
March 03 2009 23:23 GMT
#13
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ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
March 03 2009 23:29 GMT
#14
were did you get this build...
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
deathgodtoss
Profile Joined July 2008
Korea (North)189 Posts
March 03 2009 23:45 GMT
#15
On March 04 2009 08:23 petzergling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2009 08:07 LaLaBye wrote:
Thanks so much petzergling, you've always been my hero. Any chance sc2gg will let you finish your FUCKING AWESOME terran guide?

This was my first step of remaking the terran guide, basically my plan was to have three seperate posts like this, and at TL level and not sc2gg level .



dude, i give you props~~~~
i will have to incorporate this into my t v z build...
nice to keep it within the TL community
but dude, by any chance you have build order for T v P?
god is about as useful as a protoss scout
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
March 03 2009 23:46 GMT
#16
On March 04 2009 08:29 ramen247 wrote:
were did you get this build...


by watching 2149012480192 replays right?

lol anyway great guide petzerlging! :D:D awesome.
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
deathgodtoss
Profile Joined July 2008
Korea (North)189 Posts
March 04 2009 00:14 GMT
#17
there is no love for zerg... first this, then you have someone bumping super jong min's translation of the 4gate, 2 archon+speedlot build.... sucks to be zerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrg
god is about as useful as a protoss scout
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
March 04 2009 00:18 GMT
#18
nothing to see here terrans, just move right long
keep on beating protoss heads in mirite?
heh....
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
March 04 2009 00:22 GMT
#19
On March 04 2009 09:14 deathgodtoss wrote:
there is no love for zerg... first this, then you have someone bumping super jong min's translation of the 4gate, 2 archon+speedlot build.... sucks to be zerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrg

There were some really awesome zerg guides that were written not too long ago.
Check these two out.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=73314
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=72062
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2399 Posts
March 04 2009 00:22 GMT
#20
if only all guides were like this and the majority of them were protoss BOs
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
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