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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
March 09 2009 03:25 GMT
#161
petzergling, if you're really qutting, then i hope you quit because you're not having fun anymore, not because you lost a BO5, or just not good enough in general. how are you ever suppose to get good at anything if u just quit as soon as you see an obstacle? This doesn't refer to only SC, but everything in general...
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
March 09 2009 03:50 GMT
#162
lol just read some of the drama posts, I think a blog battle report with screen shots is necessary. and reps, reps are good, especially the kind with text.
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ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-09 03:53:17
March 09 2009 03:52 GMT
#163
On March 09 2009 12:50 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
lol just read some of the drama posts, I think a blog battle report with screen shots is necessary. and reps, reps are good, especially the kind with text.


i dont really wanna do that. someone else is welcome to do it.

and you can get reps from me thru pm.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
March 09 2009 04:02 GMT
#164
Umm what happened to the post?
"The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."-William Faulkner *_*_*_Kolll FAN_*_*_*
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
March 09 2009 04:03 GMT
#165
You know you need a hobby when you start flaming yourself. Seriously though, I don't now how bad or good the guide was cause I came to late to read it so I can't say who is right or wrong but I can say that it was a dick move deleting the build because this has now become a flame thread which last time I checked, don't have anything to do with Strategy in starcraft.
^______________^
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
March 09 2009 04:03 GMT
#166
On March 09 2009 13:02 ilistis wrote:
Umm what happened to the post?


read the thread.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
Intothebreez
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada11 Posts
March 09 2009 05:19 GMT
#167
rofl possum!
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theconartist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
62 Posts
March 09 2009 08:52 GMT
#168
this is why you need to learn to ignore dumbasses like ramen247 and nintu
<Patch> You never even hit A, tca <Patch> QQ, sounds like you just suck.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 09 2009 09:01 GMT
#169
On March 06 2009 13:36 zulu_nation8 wrote:
YES I LOVE WHERE THIS THREAD IS GOING WENT

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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
March 09 2009 09:08 GMT
#170
I dont understand why you would delete the opening post because some people had different oppinions. It will always be the case.

Did you write this to help people or for your own attention?

Anyway I would suggest that you either re-write the guide to help people improve or that the admins close this thread because it will continue with the flamewar.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
March 09 2009 10:34 GMT
#171
those people admitting to being bm? there's a hint of pride in those admissions. horrible people. bm is basically unsportsmanlike conduct. terrible behavior as players
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
March 09 2009 10:46 GMT
#172
On March 09 2009 18:08 StylishVODs wrote:
I dont understand why you would delete the opening post because some people had different oppinions. It will always be the case.

Did you write this to help people or for your own attention?

Anyway I would suggest that you either re-write the guide to help people improve or that the admins close this thread because it will continue with the flamewar.


ding ding ding
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
March 09 2009 11:06 GMT
#173
Entertaining read, but some of you guys are taking this game waaay too seriously.
NaDa, much, ZerO fighting!
petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-09 13:48:49
March 09 2009 13:29 GMT
#174
Mod Edit: Don't bold your entire post
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
March 09 2009 13:39 GMT
#175
1) Cloud plays zerg and there are many Clouds, so you are probably confused.
2) Quitting over what someone says over the internet is pretty stupid. If they told you what went wrong, then you should fix it, not throw away everything over minor issues.

You still sound like you want attention based on your last few comments @_@.
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
March 09 2009 20:28 GMT
#176
This is sad. If his BO really did suck, then let it die out for gods sake.
petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
March 09 2009 20:41 GMT
#177
On March 10 2009 05:28 dhe95 wrote:
This is sad. If his BO really did suck, then let it die out for gods sake.

best bump ever
Mod Edit: Don't bold your entire post
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
March 09 2009 20:47 GMT
#178
On March 04 2009 06:56 petzergling wrote:
sorry

basic summary of what happened:
1. i watched a bunch of replays to try to get better at tvz, wrote down a basic bo, and i had a couple of extra hours on a friday at work so i explained all of the things and formatted it pretty
2. lower level players thanked me, higher up players made some corrections and helped me make it better. Some terran nerds who write garbage posts and get flamed for what they write flamed me(cus thats what happens to them) about what i wrote (i just copied some replay so wtf does it matter).
3. I end up playing two series of games, one of which is against nintu's supposed b- friend who I went 1:1 with, I played extremely nervous and robotic losing the first game but I was able to compose myself in the second game. After talking about the game and saying gg's to the zerg he apparently said I was an extremely unskilled player and blamed his loss to me on painkillers. I played a second series with this ramen247 guy who dominated me two games in a row (2nd game with 9 pool, my tvz bane for some reason) and I decided to stop playing the game competitively -- I have major stress problems and I'm not able to compose myself in serious matches. Without hope of playing the game at a high level the fun kind of dies out you know?
4. I deleted the guide and my post responses, basically because of negative critiques from a pretty large group of people. Yeah I did it for attention, but not from the community -- from them. If you go back and read their posts I don't see what else they could have wanted other then my reputation trashed and the guide removed -- so there they go.
5. I bought wc3 and I'm probably going to lose a bunch of games because I cant outmacro people with 55 apm and I'm just going to come back to starcraft in a week and just D bash until I feel better.

I figured this would have been done a long time ago but I guess it didnt -- it would be nice if a mod closed this as it hasn't contained any real strategy discussion for the last few days

A noob friend of mine who I didn't even know browsed tl asked me to repost the guide back up but all I have saved is the first two pages or so. If anyone for whatever reason has it saved as a word doc or something if you could pm it to me so I could give it to him that would be great -- thanks



Couple things I'd just like to say:

1. I think you were taking this game way too seriously. Based on your comments, you seem to believe that it is impossible to play for fun AND play @ a high level/seriously, which is simply not true. I am going to guess that you just are spending too much time revolving your life around the game but not actually playing it that much, and you are disappointed with the results when you do play. I've done that before, but eventually I learned that I get a lot more out of starcraft when I play for fun (playing for fun does not necessarily mean bashing lower-level players all day, you can play competitively and have fun at the same time, I mean isn't that the point of iccup/most ladders since they are not worth money anyway?). Though I am just guessing that this is relevant to your situation based on your comments, ignore this if I am completely off.

2. Just because you lose to a B- and some other guy w/200 apm, why should that be a reason to quit playing? Perhaps they are simply better than you (and probably have been playing a lot longer as well)? Can't you just admit they are better players then move on? See this is why bming and shit-talking is bad because it leads to situations like this.

I think you need to chill out a bit and have fun with the game.
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
March 09 2009 21:15 GMT
#179
btw the second game wasnt a 9 pool.

it was overpool XDDDDD.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
March 09 2009 21:15 GMT
#180
And so it continues!
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