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Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-06 21:43:14
December 06 2008 17:16 GMT
#1
Disclaimer: I don't pretend to be unbiased myself. I am conservative in my political views.


Take a gander at this quick article from the Washington Times. I will point out the highlights and pose some questions.

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It's a record-setting press honeymoon.

President-elect Barack Obama has received the most positive campaign news coverage on the main network news shows in the 20-year history of such studies by the Center for Media and Public Affairs (CMPA).

Mr. Obama received 68 percent positive evaluations from the four major networks, according to the study released Friday.

"Obama's positive press is the strongest showing CMPA has ever recorded for a presidential candidate since we began monitoring election news in 1988," said Robert Lichter, director of the nonpartisan research group affiliated with George Mason University.

By contrast, his Republican rival almost set the record for hostile press coverage.

Just 33 percent of the stories on Sen. John McCain were positive in nature -- "the worst showing" since former President George H.W. Bush received only 29 percent positive press in 1988, Mr. Lichter said.

The study analyzed 1,197 election stories from Aug. 23 to Nov. 4 on "ABC World News Tonight," "NBC Nightly News," "CBS Evening News" and the first half-hour of "Fox Special Report."

The findings counter previous CMPA research trends somewhat. On average in the last 20 years, Democratic presidential hopefuls received coverage that was fairly balanced: about half positive and half negative. However, over the same period, Republicans received 34 percent positive and 66 percent negative press.

Mr. Obama also trumped coverage garnered by former presidential hopeful Sen. John Kerry. The Massachusetts Democrat received 59 percent favorable press in a similar study conducted during the 2004 election.

NBC was the most Obama-friendly of the four networks, with 73 percent of the coverage being favorable. Fox News was the sole network to mix it up with Mr. Obama, with only 37 percent of the stories on him positive in tone, although that was only slightly less favorable than the 41 percent favorability of the network's McCain coverage.

Fox also took him to task for some lofty trappings.

"President-elect Barack Obama is looking very presidential these days. When he makes an announcement, he is ringed by American flags and stands behind a lectern that has a very presidential-looking placard announcing 'The Office of the President-Elect.' But the props are merely that. Under the Constitution, there is no such thing as the Office of the President-Elect," a recent Fox News op-ed piece said.

Not only was criticism of Mr. Obama not typical at the other networks, but some journalists seemed to wax rhapsodic about Mr. Obama -- framing his campaign in dramatic terms.

In recent days, NBC's Andrea Mitchell called him a "rock star," while ABC's Terry Moran noted, "You can see it in the crowds. The thrill, the hope -- how they surge toward him." CBS' Tracy Smith described Mr. Obama's "stoic elegance," adding, "even some political commentators who've seen it all can't help but gush."

It was all too much for the Media Research Center, a Virginia-based conservative watchdog group that has assembled a roster of "Obama's Media Groupies."

Other research has revealed an Obama-centric press.

A Pew Research Center survey released in late October found, for example, that 70 percent of voters agreed that journalists "wanted" Mr. Obama to win the White House; the figure was 62 percent even among Democratic respondents.

A Harvard University analysis in early November revealed that 77 percent of Americans say the press is politically biased; of that group, 5 percent said it skewed conservative. Even The Washington Post's ombudsman, Deborah Howell, offered evidence of an "Obama tilt" in her own newspaper in a recent op-ed piece.


"On average in the last 20 years, Democratic presidential hopefuls received coverage that was fairly balanced: about half positive and half negative. However, over the same period, Republicans received 34 percent positive and 66 percent negative press."

"President-elect Barack Obama has received the most positive campaign news coverage on the main network news shows in the 20-year history of such studies by the Center for Media and Public Affairs (CMPA). Mr. Obama received 68 percent positive evaluations from the four major networks, according to the study released Friday. By contrast, his Republican rival almost set the record for hostile press coverage. Just 33 percent of the stories on Sen. John McCain were positive in nature -- "the worst showing" since former President George H.W. Bush received only 29 percent positive press in 1988, Mr. Lichter said."

"NBC was the most Obama-friendly of the four networks, with 73 percent of the coverage being favorable. Fox News was the sole network to mix it up with Mr. Obama, with only 37 percent of the stories on him positive in tone, although that was only slightly less favorable than the 41 percent favorability of the network's McCain coverage."

"A Pew Research Center survey released in late October found, for example, that 70 percent of voters agreed that journalists "wanted" Mr. Obama to win the White House; the figure was 62 percent even among Democratic respondents.

A Harvard University analysis in early November revealed that 77 percent of Americans say the press is politically biased; of that group, 5 percent said it skewed conservative."



Now I know that this is an overwhelmingly liberal website in terms of the political opinions of the members, but I was wondering what TL.netters thought of the liberal bias that has been in the news since at least 1988.

Does this affect the outcome of election?

Does a slanted media have negative effects on a democracy?

Do you think this is all crap and that there is no bias? If so, why do you believe that?

Does this information make you happy or angry?
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
onepost
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada297 Posts
December 06 2008 17:22 GMT
#2
The Washington Times is hardly an objective source of information. They're almost as strongly right-leaning as Fox News.
There are three types of lies: statistics, studies, and benchmarks.
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
December 06 2008 17:30 GMT
#3
Do you realize that there is more negative press about Republicans because they do more illogical, stupid, fucking idiotic things?
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
December 06 2008 17:33 GMT
#4
go back 4 years

remember the disproportionate bad news about kerry compared to bush?
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QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
December 06 2008 17:33 GMT
#5
On December 07 2008 02:30 FzeroXx wrote:
Do you realize that there is more negative press about Republicans because they do more illogical, stupid, fucking idiotic things?


This. 'Reality has a well-known liberal bias.'

Also information about bias, coming from a biased source? Haha.
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HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
December 06 2008 17:42 GMT
#6
Does this affect the outcome of election?

Unquestionably.
Does a slanted media have negative effects on a democracy?

Of course.
Do you think this is all crap and that there is no bias? If so, why do you believe that?

In fact, the problem is worse than mere bias in favor of one political party or on a few isolated issues. The real problem is the complete indoctrination into a very narrow spectrum of "respectable" political opinions, with anything outside of that being harshly ostracized.
Does this information make you happy or angry?

Neither, since it is entirely common knowledge...
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
December 06 2008 17:44 GMT
#7
This goes against another report I read which said that Obama got much worse press coverage than McCain (although he also got a lot more because of his rockstar image). I'll try to find that report again.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-06 17:54:59
December 06 2008 17:47 GMT
#8
In this world, the only truly objective thing is FakeSteve's Power Rank
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aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
December 06 2008 17:49 GMT
#9
The media is biased? Who knew?
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Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
December 06 2008 17:49 GMT
#10
On December 07 2008 02:33 fusionsdf wrote:
go back 4 years

remember the disproportionate bad news about kerry compared to bush?


"Mr. Obama also trumped coverage garnered by former presidential hopeful Sen. John Kerry. The Massachusetts Democrat received 59 percent favorable press in a similar study conducted during the 2004 election."
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-06 18:00:56
December 06 2008 17:50 GMT
#11
In fairness, McCain did run a train wreck campaign. This election-cycle did see great left-leaning. So did 2006. 2004 did not. Bush's first term absolutely, completely did not. No one in the media questioned ANYTHING he did.

Juicy Bits Surfacing in Rather Case: In 2004, CBS Considered Matt Drudge, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter Independent Panel:
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This week, Dan Rather's legal team submitted a memorandum to the judge overseeing Mr. Rather's $70 million civil lawsuit against his former employers, which for the first time made public some of the thousands of documents that CBS has already turned over in the ongoing discovery process.

The Media Mob is still making its way through the thick stack of e-mails, internal memos, and transcripts included in this stash. But we were kind of amazed by one document.

First the quick backstory:

In the fall of 2004, in the aftermath of Dan Rather and Co.'s flawed report on President Bush's military service (and the subsequent controversy known as "Memogate"), CBS executives announced that they were forming an independent review panel, charged with investigating the manner in which the controversial report had been researched and broadcast.

On Sept. 22, CBS announced that the independent panel would be comprised of two individuals: Former U.S. Attorney General Dick Thornburgh and Louis Boccardi, the former head of the Associated Press.

In the past, Mr. Rather has criticized CBS's choice of panel members, alleging that Mr. Thornburgh's association with the Bush family (President George H. W. Bush appointed Mr. Thornburgh to his position as U.S. attorney general) undermined the panel’s objectivity.

"Discovery to date reveals far more," Mr. Rather’s legal team wrote this week. "Only conservative lawyers were considered for the Panel; their names were vetted by Viacom’s Washington lobbyists (as well as with unnamed 'GOP folks')."

In a response to the judge dated Nov. 3, here’s how CBS lawyers countered:

[A]s is clear from the deposition testimony, because of the perception that CBS News and Dan Rather had a liberal bias, CBS purposefully chose a Republican lawyer, not for any nefarious purpose, but to open itself up to its harshest conservative critics and to ensure that the Panel’s findings would be found credible.

Apparently, CBS executives took their job of finding the harshest conservative critics very seriously.



In Exhitit J of the current filing, Mr. Rather's legal team include a list (turned up in discovery) which CBS executives apparently compiled in the fall of 2004, prior to settling on Mr. Thornburgh and Mr. Boccardi.

The list includes Mr. Boccardi's name as well such seemingly reasonable potential candidates as David Gergen, Gene Roberts (former managing editor of The New York Times) and Dick Wald (former president of NBC News).

Then things get a little bit more conservative. Under the category "others" are the names of potential candidates such as … Matt Drudge, Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh.

Herein, CBS’s full list of "others":

* William Buckley
* Robert Novak
* Kate O’Beirne
* Nicholas Von Hoffman
* Tucker Carlson
* Pat Buchanan
* George Will
* Lou Dobbs
* Matt Drudge
* Robert Barkley
* Robert Kagan
* Fred Barnes
* William Kristol
* John Podhoretz
* David Brooks
* William Safire
* Bernard Goldberg
* Ann Coulter
* Andrew Sullivan
* Christopher Hitchens
* PJ O’Rourke
* Christopher Caldwell
* Elliot Abrams
* Charles Krauthammer
* William Bennett
* Rush Limbaugh

At the very bottom of the list, someone wrote in one more name. "Roger Ailes."

http://www.observer.com/2008/media/juicy-bits-surfacing-rather-case-2004-cbs-considered-matt-drudge-rush-limbaugh-ann-coulte
:O
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-06 17:55:46
December 06 2008 17:53 GMT
#12
On December 07 2008 02:33 QibingZero wrote:
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On December 07 2008 02:30 FzeroXx wrote:
Do you realize that there is more negative press about Republicans because they do more illogical, stupid, fucking idiotic things?


This. 'Reality has a well-known liberal bias.'

Also information about bias, coming from a biased source? Haha.


Are you talking about the newspaper or CMPA? Cause the newspaper is only reporting the results of the CMPA study.

Also, remember that even the public feels very strongly that there is a liberal bias. The vast majority think that the media is biased one way and only 5 percent of those think that the bias is toward Republicans. You may be in that 5% and that is ok, but most disagree.

If you disagree, that's fine. But it seems to me that there is a lot of evidence from a lot or sources pointing toward liberal bias.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-06 18:00:12
December 06 2008 17:54 GMT
#13
On December 07 2008 02:44 Luddite wrote:
This goes against another report I read which said that Obama got much worse press coverage than McCain (although he also got a lot more because of his rockstar image). I'll try to find that report again.


Lets read it.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 06 2008 17:59 GMT
#14
On December 07 2008 02:54 Savio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2008 02:44 Luddite wrote:
This goes against another report I read which said that Obama got much worse press coverage than McCain (although he also got a lot more because of his rockstar image). I'll try to find that report again.


No quoting data without sources! Lets read it.



http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=media-bias-presidential-election

Before the McCain campaign did everything in its power to lose itself the election, it was getting better coverage than the Obama campaign.
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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
December 06 2008 17:59 GMT
#15
Here in Brazil the president is selected by the media, weird thing is that theyr bias isnt clear, its like they try to stay in a twilight zone, where they help the people and crush the politics at the same time but its done in such a partisan manner.

And of course, here we have a shitload of partys so I guess its kinda different.

At least your media seems to be mostly made of intelligent people who knows the major trends of a modern society and know the liberalism is the way to go.

If I were a reporter id sure as hell would want to cover any groundbreaking scene, how people managed to get past theyr meaningless traditions, that held prosper back
, to reach a new height and look down to the past.
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brjdrb
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States577 Posts
December 06 2008 18:02 GMT
#16
no, this isn't anything new, but that doesn't downplay it's significance. i'm being idealistic here, but i don't think that news channels (or any form of news for that matter) should present a story with any significant bias. though it would make for worse television, and so will likely not happen. oh well
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Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-06 18:07:50
December 06 2008 18:04 GMT
#17
Also according to LA Times survey of journalists:

* Self-identified liberals outnumbered conservatives in the newsroom by more than three-to-one, 55 to 17 percent. This compares to only one-fourth of the public (23 percent) that identified themselves as liberal.

* 82 percent of reporters and editors favored allowing women to have abortions; 81 percent backed affirmative action; and 78 percent wanted stricter gun control.

* Two-thirds (67%) of journalists opposed prayer in public schools; three-fourths of the general public (74%) supported prayer in public schools.


Also, this is a little old (1992), but so is the evidence for liberal media bias (dating back to 1988),

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And according to the ASNE report of 1996,

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The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
December 06 2008 18:06 GMT
#18
Thats awesome savio, I hope in 1 generation all your kids are liberals
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aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-06 18:10:44
December 06 2008 18:09 GMT
#19
Any entertaining story will get broadcast time. This largely reflects the bastardized quest for ratings that's transformed the "news" into another entertainment outlet.

Nevertheless, there's plenty of things about McCain that weren't reported widely and plenty of things about Biden that didn't recieve any attention. McCain's campaign started getting horrible coverage after arguable the worst VP pick in history. Why is this? Because watching Palin fall is entertaining and people like to see it. Before this pick it was pretty fair.
Live to win.
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
December 06 2008 18:12 GMT
#20
On December 07 2008 02:47 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
In this world, the only truly objective thing is FakeSteve's Power Rank


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