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Savio
United States1850 Posts
On December 07 2008 04:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: He does have a point, though. Most other countries have stuff like free education and free healthcare. And free lunch!  WoooOOOOoooo!(You'd better recognize what I am saying) | ||
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the.dude
United States16 Posts
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strongwind
United States862 Posts
Who knew? | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
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cava
United States1035 Posts
On December 07 2008 04:09 D10 wrote: Someday studies will show a trend of intelligent and open minded people and liberal bias I also agree with this | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On December 07 2008 04:05 Savio wrote: And free lunch! WoooOOOOoooo!(You'd better recognize what I am saying) I mean, it's not that heavily taxed countries like Sweden have a much higher standard of living and quality of life than we do, or that 90% of America's wealth is in the top 10% of the population - It's that in spite of all this recent economic crises sparking billion-dollar bailouts for corporations in our economy, many conservatives don't realize that what America's doing is exactly that - what you're calling "free lunch". | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
Liberals don't like to do real work. They prefer to "talk", "pontificate" or whatever so they are more likely to go into jobs like journalism and education (from elementary to university). These are also the 2 fields where they can push their opinions on other people. Conservatives do real work. Take a poll of engineers, then compare it to the results of political ideals of professors or jounalists and you will see a big difference. Kinda makes me think of Bill Ayers. He was a terrorist promoting his ideals...when he stopped that, the most obvious place to go work? As a professor of course! You can't be a terrorist forever and make a living in the US but there are multiple ways to spread your political ideals. While I am throwing out baseless anecdotes, I have also heard it said, "University's make you liberal. Life makes you conservative." Explaining how in the 60's and 70's all the university students were liberal (like now) and did all their protests, but now they are older and voting more conservative while the young people continue to vote liberal like their professors tell them to. | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
On December 07 2008 04:15 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: I mean, it's not that heavily taxed countries like Sweden have a much higher standard of living and quality of life than we do, or that 90% of America's wealth is in the top 10% of the population - It's that in spite of all this recent economic crises sparking billion-dollar bailouts for corporations in our economy, many conservatives don't realize that what America's doing is exactly that - what you're calling "free lunch". I definitely don't agree with the standard of living, but you do have a point that America has a messed up heath care system that is neither universal nor market based. But the term "free healthcare" is a pet peeve of mine and I always correct it. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
It's witty. I'm not a super-liberal democrat, nor am I a moderate conservative republican. I like to think that my political views are unique. Unfortunately, just straight up, unless you vote for a republican or a democrat, your vote doesn't mean anything, so I tend to vote democrat. | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
Really News is meant to do one thing. Like all things, news is a business. So business try and make money. They are not going to show something that will not sell. All of the news on tv that American cattle watch is controlled by just 5 separate companies. Everyone likes Barak, so they will give everyone story's. It's all about money. The media are making Barak sound infallible. In reality, the president has little to no power, it is all controlled by the house and senate. American cattle take everything that comes out of his mouth as fact. In reality his economic plan is retarded, his presidential cabinet are all of bill clintons men, and his wife. To me Barak is just Bill Clinton v 2.0<<<<<< LOL CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN LOL lots of change baraaaaaaak lots of change. Lets hire Bills cabinet WOOOOOT! America is fucked.  | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
GE makes money off the war Murdoch just plainly hates democrats CNN just sucks. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On December 07 2008 04:35 Misrah wrote: In reality, the president has little to no power, it is all controlled by the house and senate. American cattle take everything that comes out of his mouth as fact. In reality his economic plan is retarded, his presidential cabinet are all of bill clintons men, and his wife. I'm sorry, did you just say that Bush had "little to no power" over the past 8 years' events? | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
But in reality, the President does have quite a bit of power on his own. | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
On December 07 2008 04:38 Rev0lution wrote: Except that Mr. Obama is not a liberal but a centrist politicians, and if you take this into account. The news media is actually baised against liberals. GE makes money off the war Murdoch just plainly hates democrats CNN just sucks. Actually, Hillary carried the democratic centrists and Obama the liberals. Whether he is liberal or not is hard to tell. His senate voting record and personal associations are liberal, but so far his cabinet appointments have been pretty centrist. In 4 years we will know. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3377/fiscalconservativesaz5.jpg) I'm just joking, by the way. I know there's much more to the issue than what the picture says. | ||
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
Do you mean social conservatives or economic conservatives? I recently spoke with John Gordon, an economic historian, about this, and it seems to me that the general consensus among economic conservatives (I should probably specify: educated economic conservatives) is that bailing out companies, i.e. "free lunch," is ludicrous. I am assuming that you're including the possible auto-industry bailout as well. Not including it would contradict your previous point. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
If you're saying that most economic conservatives disagree heavily with the bailouts, then that's good. The other way I read it was that they didn't think a bailout was "free lunch", which is just absurd. | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
On December 07 2008 04:35 Misrah wrote: Really News is meant to do one thing. Like all things, news is a business. So business try and make money. They are not going to show something that will not sell. All of the news on tv that American cattle watch is controlled by just 5 separate companies. Everyone likes Barak, so they will give everyone story's. It's all about money. The media are making Barak sound infallible. I definitely agree that news is primarily a business. I actually think that Murdoch made Foxnews into a conservative station not because he wants to elect republicans, but because he saw a market for conservative ideas. For years, ALL the media was liberal with Rush Limbaugh being the exception and raking in tons of $$$. He saw the market potential and it worked. People were starved for something other than liberal media and Foxnews became the most successful cable news station and it still is (BTW, I don't watch ANY cable news or television at all for that matter). As for "The media are making Barak sound infallible." I agree and it is bad news for democrats in 2012. | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
On December 07 2008 04:42 Savio wrote: Actually, Hillary carried the democratic centrists and Obama the liberals. Whether he is liberal or not is hard to tell. His senate voting record and personal associations are liberal, but so far his cabinet appointments have been pretty centrist. In 4 years we will know. Hillary didnt carry the democratic centrist, she carried the pro-gun democrats who are mostly Reagan democrats. Most democrats are actually center-left and conservative democrats. Only a few minority of democrats are liberals. But let's keep this to news media bias. | ||
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