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TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
December 19 2008 00:05 GMT
#601
Does this affect the outcome of election?

Does a slanted media have negative effects on a democracy?



I think doing a study on press bias at the height of a presidential campaign is silly. Most of the reporting is about campaign strategy, polling and political gaffes, all things that are actually reported with minimal bias. It is a fact that Obama ran a good campaign, that is not a political issue, and it is a fact that McCain's campaign was sketchy. If the press reported anything but that, I would call it bias. The problem with the media is not just who happens to be getting the most sentimental coverage of the day, but how they do, or do not in most cases, hold people and the government accountable.

Case in point, I came across one of the most mind boggling articles I have read in years the other day. This information should be on every front page newspaper, website, and on prime time everyday, but it's not. Here is the first paragraph of the article:

"The Bush administration approved the use of "waterboarding" on Al Qaeda detainees after receiving reports from government psychologists that it was "100 percent effective" in breaking the will of U.S. military personnel subjected to the technique during training, according to documents released today by a Senate Committee"

That is an absolute bombshell and the Bush administration is not being completely pounded for it. To me that shows complete complacency and lack of competence in the media to extents far more relevant than some random news reporter throwing a halo over Obama. To watch the media allow the Bush administration to get away with this (let alone watch the media allow Bush to lie to us about WMD) and then think for a moment there is liberal bias is just silly. As to your first question I think the answer is yes, but not in the way your are expecting.



People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-19 02:24:29
December 19 2008 02:23 GMT
#602
First of all, one of the studies I cited covered 20 years of press at all the major networks so it is not just limited to the campaign.


As for the waterboarding, were you saying that the press should have reported that it was tried out on military personnel or that it was 100% effective? Or was it just that waterboarding happened?

Because at least the last point was covered and thats how the pressure built up and caused the administration to stop waterboarding.

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
hacpee
Profile Joined November 2007
United States752 Posts
December 19 2008 02:43 GMT
#603
I'm a left leaning hawk, and its pretty obvious that there is a leftist bias in the press. When the war wasn't doing so hot, you saw the US troop death count every day in the headlines. Every skirmish that involved dead troops got blown out of proportion.

However, now that the surge has worked, and AQ is on the run, we are suddenly unsurprisingly missing headlines about the war. Only Fox News regularly updates us on the progress of our brave troops.

It wasn't always like this. A long while back, before I was born, it was the norm to be patriotic. It was a good thing to celebrate our troop's success. When the men and women in our armed forces won major battles, everyone rejoiced. When we lost, we mourned for the dead, but never criticized our leader's decisions. Both left and right leaning Americans wanted our troops to win.This attitude is long gone however, and with Obama at the helm, its hard to see how we'll win the war unless a Hawk takes over for him in 2012.
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
December 19 2008 02:47 GMT
#604
Some people appear to be so hateful of Bush that they wanted the troops to fail so Bush would look like a failure. Bush Derangement Syndrome got extremely powerful.

I think that being as you said "unpatriotic" or at least hating American culture or attacking the government became popular during the Vietnam War. Its never quite gone away.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
December 19 2008 02:55 GMT
#605
it was the norm to be patriotic. It was a good thing to celebrate our troop's success. When the men and women in our armed forces won major battles, everyone rejoiced. When we lost, we mourned for the dead


Some people appear to be so hateful of Bush that they wanted the troops to fail so Bush would look like a failure


How ironic.
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