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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-11 18:18:00
November 11 2008 18:17 GMT
#1
Point of Emphasis: Two top progamers.. current map.. must dl? Jaedong and his dominating timing/tactics in this game are incredible. Period.

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My plagues never work this well >_<
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
November 11 2008 18:52 GMT
#2
During the Yellow / chojja / early julyzerg era this kind of muta / defiler management was just unheard of. Muta control has totally revolutionized zerg.


Incredible how the game continues to evolve.
We decide our own destiny
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
November 11 2008 19:46 GMT
#3
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Wow perfect macro all game. At one point JD starts to build up some mins/gas and you think 'wtf?!' But then, he makes like 8 ultras, perfectly timed along with his upgrades, and you kick yourself in the head for doubting JD's macro even for a second
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
November 11 2008 21:01 GMT
#4
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That was some sexy plagues and Lurker usage. Jaedong is imba.
this is my quote.
SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
China685 Posts
November 11 2008 22:45 GMT
#5
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Pure sex on Jaedong's part
What does the scouter say about his macro level? It's Over 9000 minerals!
JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-11 22:53:39
November 11 2008 22:48 GMT
#6
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Mind perhaps made a mistake by sieging his tanks to kill the lurkers. Jaedong would quickly move his force in as he knew the tanks couldn't get away in siege mode. Mind obviously felt obligated to fight when this happened as he couldn't stand to lose these tanks so easily. However, without a decent number of tanks or vessels, his marines and medics stood no chance vs Jaedong's well-positioned lurkers. So the legend killer emphasized on this tendency of his opponent and did lots of damage before his even got defilers. When you have more than half a dozen tanks sieged, the zerg player would take some serious damage in his attack. However, Mind never had more than 3 tanks, letting Jaedong move in without much concern. Of course, every time Jaedong charged in with his units, Mind lost all his tanks and a good number marines. In my opinion Mind should have simply hit the lurkers with unsieged tanks, which still out-range them. If he could have kept the tanks alive, he would have been able to push out.
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
November 11 2008 23:22 GMT
#7
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(Z)Jaedong is just crazy, delaying (T)Mind's 3rd's mining time like that damn. That 3rd basically didnt even have the time to function with (Z)Jaedong's constant pressure. I think (T)Mind could also use more dropship plays too, even though I know (Z)Jaedong could deflect it easily plus all the defense he has at each expo. He did like...1 drop through out the entire game, letting (Z)Jaedong mine gas as much as he wants.
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
November 12 2008 01:02 GMT
#8
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mind's multitasking in this game was really suspect, i saw like 3 different times where jaedong wandered a defiler into a group of marines and plagued them, then the marines auto-attacked the defiler and chased it into some waiting lurkers only to get massacred. sick play of course by jd throughout, but probably not mind's best showing either (although the dmatrix of the marine into a group of lurkers was awesome/hilarious).
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
November 12 2008 03:47 GMT
#9
Whats with all the spoilers ㅡㅡ.

God the cliff on Othello makes muta harass so annoying .
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 12 2008 04:39 GMT
#10
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This was a great game. It makes me want to quit SC, though...JD is toooooo fucking good. lol.

Everything from his timing, macro, even micro was amazing. He plays with a fairly low ling count when using lurkers, though, which really surprised me. I can't believe he could pull off all that with so few lings to shield the lurks...

God the one thing that totally killed me was his overlords...did you guys notice he NEVER built more than two at a time? That means he knows both the rate he's losing units, the rate he's buildings units, the rate his money is coming in, and exactly how many units he'll need by the time the next overlord is done. OMG IT BLEW MY MIND.

Hello
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
November 12 2008 04:58 GMT
#11
PH you're definately right about that.


His unit mix / larvae management is an absolute art in of itself.


I've never been more impressed by any other player except savior and nada when they took the world by storm.
We decide our own destiny
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
November 12 2008 08:51 GMT
#12
On November 12 2008 13:39 PH wrote:
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This was a great game. It makes me want to quit SC, though...JD is toooooo fucking good. lol.

Everything from his timing, macro, even micro was amazing. He plays with a fairly low ling count when using lurkers, though, which really surprised me. I can't believe he could pull off all that with so few lings to shield the lurks...

God the one thing that totally killed me was his overlords...did you guys notice he NEVER built more than two at a time? That means he knows both the rate he's losing units, the rate he's buildings units, the rate his money is coming in, and exactly how many units he'll need by the time the next overlord is done. OMG IT BLEW MY MIND.


Yeah I completely agree with everything here. I came out of the replay feeling like I had 0 understanding for zvt at all. I just couldn't follow anything that was going on, and I was watching at 2x. Crazy game for sure.
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._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
November 12 2008 13:31 GMT
#13
Holy shit! Jaedong is just ...mindblowing.

And to think Forgg made it look so incredibly easy.

:D
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 12 2008 17:20 GMT
#14
On November 12 2008 12:47 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Whats with all the spoilers ㅡㅡ.



I WONDER
I WONDER WHAT SPOILERS COULD BE USED FOR
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
November 12 2008 18:16 GMT
#15
JAEDONG
MIND
MUST DOWNLOAD
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6777 Posts
November 12 2008 23:12 GMT
#16
holy fuck
Graphics
abandonallhope
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Sweden563 Posts
November 15 2008 00:02 GMT
#17
This is a perfect demonstration of how you should play ZvT. Flawless, straight up.. Perfection.
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1090 Posts
November 18 2008 03:20 GMT
#18
Artful game.
mostly harmless
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