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ErOs_YasoT
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada90 Posts
May 14 2008 15:47 GMT
#1
Me and my friend were arguing the other day about which race being the HARDEST to master at the INTERMEDIATE level... He believes it is terran while i believe it is zerg

His arguement simply contains the fact that they are not mobile and that they have to keep a fully focused eye around their base to watch out for harass and have to macro while micro at the same time.

I believe it is zerg simply because at the intermediate level, zergs must be able to micro their units (generally weaker then terrans) and macro in order to rebuild if zerg had lost their units... not only that , they must learn how to expand as well as defend the expansions.

Question to all tl.net posters, which race is the hardest to play/master?

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Poll: Hardest race?
(Vote): Zerg
(Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Terran

Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
May 14 2008 15:49 GMT
#2
Intermediate - terran

pro level - zerg

my five cents.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
Krzycho
Profile Joined July 2007
Poland442 Posts
May 14 2008 15:49 GMT
#3
Terran, i'm a zerg player, i play ZvP, ZvT and TvZ, and i must admit Terran is the hardest one from all the races.
Heggie
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom167 Posts
May 14 2008 15:50 GMT
#4
On May 15 2008 00:47 ErOs_YasoT wrote:
Me and my friend were arguing the other day about which race being the HARDEST to master at the INTERMEDIATE level... He believes it is terran while i believe it is zerg


I'm a bit confused by the question. If you are at an intermediate level, then surely you have not mastered it, right?
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 14 2008 15:50 GMT
#5
Well it depends what you mean by "intermediate level" i suppose... but I think almost everyone would agree that terran requires faster handspeed, if nothing else.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
RoC)Ninjah
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States238 Posts
May 14 2008 15:50 GMT
#6
I'm gunna have to say terran, because it's a pain to learn the different timing windows. I also found terran macro harder, instead of 5z6z7z8z9z0z on your hatches or whatnot.
Much will win a title before his hair turns grey.
ErOs_YasoT
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada90 Posts
May 14 2008 15:52 GMT
#7
On May 15 2008 00:50 Heggie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2008 00:47 ErOs_YasoT wrote:
Me and my friend were arguing the other day about which race being the HARDEST to master at the INTERMEDIATE level... He believes it is terran while i believe it is zerg


I'm a bit confused by the question. If you are at an intermediate level, then surely you have not mastered it, right?


im saying hardest race to get good at.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
May 14 2008 15:52 GMT
#8
z or t definitely.

you could teach a monkey to play p
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 15:55:11
May 14 2008 15:53 GMT
#9
On May 15 2008 00:47 ErOs_YasoT wrote:the HARDEST to master at the INTERMEDIATE level...


Because of the idiocy of that statement... I chose protoss.

Cuz obv, only stupid Z and T players make such bad statements.

And cuz Spore Sunken Lurker Crackling.. what's so hard about that???

And mass tanks is too ez.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 15:55:30
May 14 2008 15:54 GMT
#10
On May 15 2008 00:50 Heggie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2008 00:47 ErOs_YasoT wrote:
Me and my friend were arguing the other day about which race being the HARDEST to master at the INTERMEDIATE level... He believes it is terran while i believe it is zerg


I'm a bit confused by the question. If you are at an intermediate level, then surely you have not mastered it, right?


Didn't notice that when I answered, but I guess we can interpret this as:

"playing at a tactical and strategic sound level with the mechanics this entails and get consistent results against opponents of similar level.." or something.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
May 14 2008 15:54 GMT
#11
No brainer. Terran
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 14 2008 15:54 GMT
#12
monkeys do not play P -_-
you see them warping in anything?
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
May 14 2008 15:54 GMT
#13
i think T would be the hardest race to play.
Benching 225 is light weight. Soy Cubano y Boricua!
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 14 2008 15:55 GMT
#14
its certainly not fucking protoss
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
May 14 2008 16:06 GMT
#15
Terran, the hardest.
SNSD fan
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-14 16:08:10
May 14 2008 16:07 GMT
#16
Master? Intermediate? What the, can you please not confuse the hell out of me?
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
May 14 2008 16:12 GMT
#17
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=67142
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=15042
Do your best, God will do the rest.
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
May 14 2008 16:15 GMT
#18
what's with all the newbies crying about how easy protoss supposedly is? see it everywhere all of a sudden...

at a very low level terran is the hardest, depending on how low you choose to define "intermediate" as it could still be.
aka StormtoSS
NastyMarine
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1252 Posts
May 14 2008 16:16 GMT
#19
On May 15 2008 00:50 Heggie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2008 00:47 ErOs_YasoT wrote:
Me and my friend were arguing the other day about which race being the HARDEST to master at the INTERMEDIATE level... He believes it is terran while i believe it is zerg


I'm a bit confused by the question. If you are at an intermediate level, then surely you have not mastered it, right?


lol im inclined to agree with this 200% failure for poll question

But to answer the question w/ out being a dick: Terran is definitely the hardest race. Just for the fact that the they cant set the pace of a game - specifically early game which makes it harder for intermediate players imo
Treatin' fools since '87
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
May 14 2008 16:17 GMT
#20
has to be z. mechanics is not enough to be rapish with z. mistakes fuck u up so bad with zerg. i lost fucking 1 overlord at a critical period and couljdn't make my lurkers and got raped. its just hard with z man
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