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What is the hardest race to use?

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Bloodyhawk2000
Profile Joined August 2007
United States7 Posts
February 26 2008 04:55 GMT
#1
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Poll: Hardest race to play?
(Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Zerg

In your opinion which do you think is the hardest race to use? I am a Zerg player and I saw someone say that Zerg was a harder race to use then Protoss. I have never had any problems in learning my race. So which race do you think is the hardest to use.
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noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-26 06:09:48
February 26 2008 05:05 GMT
#2
where's random?

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edit: I'd have to say Terran is the hardest race to use because they require so much concentration/attention to use effectively; the Terran units have REALLY STUPID AI compared to Zerg and Protoss Units so you have to be paying attention to your units most of the time on top of macroing and doing everything else that needs to be done. To add to that their units are fragile and for the most part have really crappy mobility. This is offset by the fact that when they are managed correctly, they can get by through pure mechanics alone due to the ranged nature of their units.

Zerg is next in line as the zerg macro is a bit more complex than the other two races, their units are very fragile (set aside ultralisks) and you also have to control many units at a time. Fortunately, zerg units are blessed with good AI and are very mobile.

Protoss is probably the easiest race to use because they have so many options, their units are very strong and versatile, and the macro is also very basic. The only thing not so easy about Protoss is Reaver micro and aiming spells, but those two aren't even that hard.. and they got cannons, fuck. lol jk
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
February 26 2008 05:05 GMT
#3
T>Z>P
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 26 2008 05:10 GMT
#4
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xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
February 26 2008 05:10 GMT
#5
In Learning a race, Zerg is the hardest, while mechanically Terran is the hardest race to use.
Protoss is the easiest in both aspects.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
February 26 2008 05:10 GMT
#6
It depends on your strengths i think. If you can't multitask that fast, then Terran/Zerg are the hardest.

It really depends on the player, it's relative to the skill of the player and there choices and the skill level at which its played at.
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-26 05:21:13
February 26 2008 05:18 GMT
#7
What XMShake said is pretty accurate actually, protoss is considered the most simple (yet ironically in the game they are the most technologically advanced?) In both technical and learning aspects, it's pretty simple, terran unit positioning and control is VITAL to winning, without good mechanics you will lose all the time, even if you can macro like Oov.

Zerg is hard, unlike the other 2 you are working to balance economic production with unit production, which sounds simple, but when faced with real situations in a game it becomes MUCH harder to handle. Look at people newly starting zerg, there major problems are the fact they have no idea when to make stuff, or whens the right time to do stuff, like the race of Zerg, the player must use instincts that come with experience (aka Game Sense) to know when to do stuff what to do and timing. Instinct with Zerg is probably the most key factor, that and timing.

If you over produce fighting units you can leave yourself at an economic disadvantage, if you overproduce economy, you leave yourself too weak of a tactical advantage, meaning your risking it.

Without risk there is no reward though, somewhere along the line you gotta risk something. Flawless play doesn't really exist.


Edit: and if you were Bloodhawk-Lz or bloodhawk-lzuruha or something, i remember you. Also this is a pretty bad thread, and is probably going to get closed soon. We have had a few topics on this already, and they just come to people voting whatever race they play. Each race is respectively different and harder in different aspects, but protoss is commonly acknowledged as easiest to use, yet hardest to master, especially on higher levels.

Maybe if you asked what race would be good to start with and try to get good with, at which point most would say protoss becuase of how strait forward it generally is, atleast for beginers.
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
February 26 2008 05:18 GMT
#8
Strategically, P is very hard
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xhuwin
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States476 Posts
February 26 2008 05:21 GMT
#9
On February 26 2008 14:18 Seraphim wrote:
Strategically, P is very hard


Can you give an example? I don't think P is any harder strategically than the other two races (assuming you're making that observation relative to the other races, in the context of this poll).
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Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
February 26 2008 05:24 GMT
#10
i think Terran is the hardest mechanically. Cuz i played terran before and now i play zerg. Z is so imba.
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
February 26 2008 05:27 GMT
#11
In PvT and PvZ certain decisions need to made and good timing is essential at higher levels. For example, knowing when to cut probes, knowing when to time your upgrades, etc., can be pretty complex.

Especially in ZvP, Z can win with good mechanics alone, not that that is easy by any means.
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
February 26 2008 05:27 GMT
#12
In terms of timing, toss is definitely the easiest (the timing is more natural than the other 2) and Terran is most likely the hardest. Overall I think Terran is hard because of the mechanics and timings, zerg is next because of how you have to attack, and toss is easiest in most cases in everything.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-26 05:29:43
February 26 2008 05:29 GMT
#13
Terran harder than Zerg harder than Protoss.

Not saying Protoss is inferior, but definitely the learning curve for Protoss is much easier and once you get the basics down you're good to go to improve. There is a huge gap that Zerg and Terrans have to make, where you see D+/C- Terrans suck soooo much compared to C+, even though the ranking is only a slight difference.
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-26 05:39:02
February 26 2008 05:38 GMT
#14
On February 26 2008 14:27 nevake wrote:
In terms of timing, toss is definitely the easiest (the timing is more natural than the other 2) and Terran is most likely the hardest. Overall I think Terran is hard because of the mechanics and timings, zerg is next because of how you have to attack, and toss is easiest in most cases in everything.


I agree that anything mechanical in P in easier than the other two races. I'm not saying the thinking part of T or Z is easy by any means, but it seems that P is especially difficult in developing its mindset.

My point is - It's easy for a P to get to D+ or C- but incredibly difficult to get to B- and beyond
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
February 26 2008 05:54 GMT
#15
Seraphim, you're so biased for P, kind of figures by your icon but I do agree. Mechanically T > Z, in the timing sense, Z > T. I think for me, it's T == Z > P.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
February 26 2008 05:57 GMT
#16
I think Zerg and Terran are both very hard, since I don't play them. But I'm thinking about switching because I yearn to be different, and everyone on ICCup plays Protoss, apparently.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 26 2008 05:59 GMT
#17
On February 26 2008 14:57 Ancestral wrote:
I think Zerg and Terran are both very hard, since I don't play them. But I'm thinking about switching because I yearn to be different, and everyone on ICCup plays Protoss, apparently.


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Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
February 26 2008 06:03 GMT
#18
On February 26 2008 14:05 Aurious wrote:
T>Z>P

Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
February 26 2008 06:03 GMT
#19
On February 26 2008 14:59 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
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On February 26 2008 14:57 Ancestral wrote:
I think Zerg and Terran are both very hard, since I don't play them. But I'm thinking about switching because I yearn to be different, and everyone on ICCup plays Protoss, apparently.


Come to the Overmind my child, it's a choice you'll never regret.

I am considering it, but my P is the only one good enough to beat anyone on ICCup at all, and my friends who play because I convince them too are so bad I can easily beat them in any of the nine matchups.

I guess I could just start from square one, read build orders, play online, lose, repeat.
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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
February 26 2008 06:04 GMT
#20
P is harder at highly competetive level lol. But the hardest to use is Terran by FAR.
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