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Vivax
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I think TW has rolled scum again cause his opening post is exaggeratedly aggressive but the followup doesn't carry the same conviction. I don't think he has much faith into his own argument and keeps reluctantly dragging it along afterwards to keep the appearance. Tone just doesn't appear natural and relaxed to me since we just started out. Do you agree y/n? | ||
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On June 03 2017 13:39 Tumblewood wrote: n of course I don't carry the same conviction after I realize he is joking. still think his comments on bh are hot garbage but I'm not going to continue being aggressive because I think he's town Why do you look so upset about that post? I don't get why it warrants such emotionality. | ||
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What I can't live with is Grack just being sort of in the thread without doing anything besides asking an useless question to bh and reacting to my post. I appreciate the answer but everything about him otherwise screams disinterest in contrast to TWs approach. Also a noticeable lack of suspicion towards TW. I don't think it was that obvious like for Grack that TW wasn't using that to form a scumread instead of using that to criticize Tube without scumhunting purposes. | ||
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Tube town for pushing game forward and being proactive. TW town for lashing out at something he didn't like and avoiding his scum play lazy buddying. It looked overly emotional to me but he claims it wasn't. Grack scum for being lazy, passive and kind of just reacting to things around him without attempting to reach a satisfactory conclusion or looking like he wanted to. Neither shitpost-y grack nor tryhard-y grack. Just bore-y grack. Rest null. | ||
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Fidei town for now. HF town I think cause he isn't just yelling about any mistake someone may have made and extending the discussion about it into as much detail as he can to produce endless unproductive arguments. He seems really chill about his scumhunting and thinks he has something on TW. I can see where he's coming from cause imo that post looked overly emotional (if you wanna call it forced, call it forced) but I'm not that sure that it makes TW mafia as he is. BTDT I'm atm conflicted on cause I don't think Grack played like this in generic. I feel like Grack has slowed down his posting even more than in the last game, and I'm surprised btdt doesn't see it the same way. I like on the other hand that he's pointing out how PB is making easy posts by saying certain things in a contrived, overly worded way. But I also think that it's something a scum can easily point out esp. emphasizing that PB won a mafia game recently which reads to me like soft fearmongering. I prefer to remain inconclusive on btdt for now and watch more development between him ritoky and PB. PB on the other hand calls out fidei for the lurker thingy, but says it's only scummy if it's not to move the game forward, which is a statement that cancels itself and ends up not really saying anything. He could ask fidei if that was his intention before explaining that if it was, he could ignore the argument, for example. I like his idea of discussing how to find mafia early game actually and giving his own opinion on it cause it looks cute at best, pointless at worst and since it's what we are already doing I don't think that it needs to be laid out. He doesn't latch onto someone instantly like last scum game but prefers a chill start instead so I remain conflicted on him as well. HF also pointed out that he's asking for help on how to play and shouldn't be auto made out as scummy which looks like what btdt wants to do. I think in this conversation btdt looks a bit too eager to push PBs post into a scummy light and comes out slightly worse of the two, although superficially, PB has more things you could construe as scummy quickly (and hence possibly qualifies as lynch bait) Conversion post explaining his absence reads tonally super town explaining without a hint of nervousness why he's playing like he is. Feels safe to townpile for now. Ritoky's case on btdt seems good and isn't overly adorned and gets straight to the point. Ritoky likey. Grack has achieved a new dimension of mafia laziness but his latest read post ends up at something similar like where I am. Gonna see what he comes up with further. I maintain that he didn't try to do jack in early game and even less than last game where at least he actively constructed shit posts (like inserting wrong quotes on purpose). LS and HFs arguments on LS I'm postponing atm. Also fideis new post doesn't end up where I am at all. I'ma stick around now instead of throwing walls of text at you. And BH?BH whatever, he has a star in his name and is the banlist fuhrer so should probably lynch just to be rebellious. | ||
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The way I see it the issue here is that LS misses the point most others raised about TWs posts and instead thinks it's about him ending up with a townread. But pointing this out doesn't instantly make people scum, and why does it make HF scum over Fidei who does the same (in a less pushy way). | ||
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On June 04 2017 07:28 beentheredonethat wrote: shame on everyone who scumreads me D1. Everyone should know by now that I'm simply bad at this game. On June 04 2017 07:29 beentheredonethat wrote: no I haven't read the last 3-4 pages in a serious manner yes I'm going to bed now no I'm not scum This reads like real frustration. But no need to be frustrated btdt. Just keep doing your thing! | ||
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On June 04 2017 07:32 Holyflare wrote: Vivax let's work together Aren't we already? | ||
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On June 04 2017 08:25 Grackaroni wrote: I'm not being lazy. I just read less into some things than other people do and don't blow up over minor things early game like you did accusing me of being boring after my 2nd post. There's enough info in the thread RN and I still don't have the feeling that you're trying to do much with it, but you keep noticing it every time whenever you are adressed. Like, no opinion on HF, fidei. You do give out a bunch of reads but there's barely any explanation behind them. You keep coming back to BHs RNG as even if it mattered anything if he explained where the number came from. No hint at all that you're having fun or are invested whatsoever into the game. Others sort of have a tone to them, you don't. You just seem completely unemotional. If you think you have a reason to be like this and realize it, then be open about it, but if you told me that you are like you always are as town, I'd have a hard time believing it. | ||
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LS comments on things with no relevant meaning <3 LS Ya well this part is inconclusive, scummy. It's like TWs read on PB from last game (who both were mafia). Something written as if to say something but doesn't say anything instead. Besides, why do they have no relevant meaning? Explain pls. prison break seems like most players I see from other sites. he seems to at least believe what he's saying | ||
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BH on the other hand doesn't have an opinion on that post when asked, scum points. | ||
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On June 05 2017 03:37 Holyflare wrote: Like I don't even care if BH does end up being mafia. Why waste your time even talking about him? He's pretty much a coin flip. Why not Tumblewood who declared BH town based on meta straight away? Who has also town read Grack (who has still done nothing) and has also tried to retroactively justify his grack town read? Who said Tubesock's posts were bad and got the joke after it was explained but still berated him even though he called him town. Why not fidei who has reads that contradict anything he should be thinking? Who put myself and Tumblewood in the same scummy pile but then realised he didn't actually acknowledge anything I had said and pleaded ignorance after the fact. While pushing the guy I wanted to lynch with my same reasoning. Why not like 60% of this game really? Cause fidei had an opinion that somehow was different than mine and ritoky at points, whom I also TR. And having a weird/different opinion doesn't make people mafia. Cause Tumble I think is town this game since he doesn't just try to get along with everyone while his tone suggests town. And lynch BH cause he didn't take the opportunity to display a desire to solve the game when he had the content available. | ||
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On June 05 2017 03:41 Holyflare wrote: Guy who displays he can't help giving out TMI as mafia is town this game for TMI. - Vivax Depending on the timing you look at it, he lashed out at TS initially. Which imo speaks more of town. See thing that doesn't make sense -> bitch about it -> townie progression. No matter if he missed a joke. I don't think that's AI. | ||
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On June 05 2017 03:39 Holyflare wrote: Why not BTDT who scum reads exclusively newbies and refuses to talk about the rest of the people in the game? Whose current push is calling a guy a liar for phone posting because he did it once in a game. But the problem is he's been called out on it and the guy he's pushing looks towny. He pushed PB similarly and instantly dropped it because I said it was mediocre. Weird patterns. Cause btdt looked realistically frustrated at being scumread and somehow ended up with the attitude that he doesn't care about how he is perceived afterwards and adjusted his posting to a less effort style which makes sense when you are being scumread after posting high effort. I think that's a townie progression. | ||
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On June 05 2017 03:49 Tubesock wrote: He is trying to get along. Or at least avoid confrontation. The meta read on BH is total bullshit. And towning me for being bad is also bullshit. So basically when nothing was going on in the thread and you drop a joke, mafia tumble randomly decided to push scum on you and then call you town? Doesn't quite compute. It's much simpler: He didn't realize it was a joke post. It got him worked up that you were lying/talking nonsense in his eyes and he started moaning about it, but then realized he dun goofed, realized his argument was nonsense and walked away in shame. He could have simply, y'know, done nothing? Be lazy? | ||
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On June 05 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote: Vivax could be mafia  Give me one fucking reason for BH to be town this game. | ||
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