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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 15 2016 14:13 GMT
#87
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 09:07 GMT
#1209
Hi, don't mind me. I'm just fulfilling the minimum requirement to not get modkilled. Low priority was tough. I'm sure you already deducted from my voluminous filter that I'm obviously town.

Here's a token vote on the scummiest person in the thread:


##Vote: Rels
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 09:29 GMT
#1213
Here's a list of people that shouldn't be killed D1: Acro, ritoky, Dandel, hopeless (can't believe I think this), iamp. As for the rest I either didn't read them yet or I didn't see anything that read like town.

Off to uni, laters.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 18:11 GMT
#1432
Lul this game.
My first post was just a giant idiot magnet, I just wanted to put something out there that had to sound super scummy, somewhat for fun, somewhat to see how people react. Can't believe anyone even takes the vote seriously (looking at TT).
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 18:25 GMT
#1461
On October 22 2016 03:20 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 03:19 ExO_ wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:05 iamperfection wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:00 iamperfection wrote:
On October 22 2016 02:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
My vote is good where it is. I don't feel like deciding between Lunatic/Vivax. Lunatic is a good lynch while Vivax is policy.

Your vote is being wasted it's not gonna happen today

Why do you want me to vote Vivax so badly? Why shouldn't I lynch Lunatic?

I'm in diffrent to lunatic I don't care if he dies or not. Vivax is capable as playing as town he isn't we should kill. Your vote on Koshi is wasted


On October 22 2016 02:56 iamperfection wrote:
On October 22 2016 02:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 22 2016 02:51 Acrofales wrote:
Bah. He's like BM. Makes no sense at all. Is calling HF scum by association without having any flips. I can't read him, and don't get any obvious scum vibes from him. So prefer to lynch someone else.

Why you want to keep H1 around?

Yeah BM would be a fine lynch I think but I havent really dived

lynch low activity also great

Go vote vivax


That does not align.

Wtf are you talking about


You say to vote Vivax, and then 10 minutes later say he is capable of playing as town like this and shouldn't be voted

He is capable as a town player. He ain't playing therfore he is scum


Really old meta, I can effortlessly make myself get townread D1 as scum. I can be afk as town D1.
In the long run I just stop caring when I'm mafia though.

Dunno there's too many actually taking my shitpost at face value I had hoped only scum would be that dumb. That'd probably be TT for acting as if my vote on Rels was serious in an attempt to just have a reason to vote forme.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 18:35 GMT
#1476
Kinda tempting to lynch Koshi cause his play is really uninspired and inspiration is what town Koshi projects but I don't think I want to lynch him D1.

I'm placing my vote on TT for now. His reason to vote me feels super construed.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 18:38 GMT
#1483
On October 22 2016 03:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 03:19 ExO_ wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:18 iamperfection wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:05 iamperfection wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:01 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 22 2016 03:00 iamperfection wrote:
On October 22 2016 02:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
My vote is good where it is. I don't feel like deciding between Lunatic/Vivax. Lunatic is a good lynch while Vivax is policy.

Your vote is being wasted it's not gonna happen today

Why do you want me to vote Vivax so badly? Why shouldn't I lynch Lunatic?

I'm in diffrent to lunatic I don't care if he dies or not. Vivax is capable as playing as town he isn't we should kill. Your vote on Koshi is wasted


On October 22 2016 02:56 iamperfection wrote:
On October 22 2016 02:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On October 22 2016 02:51 Acrofales wrote:
Bah. He's like BM. Makes no sense at all. Is calling HF scum by association without having any flips. I can't read him, and don't get any obvious scum vibes from him. So prefer to lynch someone else.

Why you want to keep H1 around?

Yeah BM would be a fine lynch I think but I havent really dived

lynch low activity also great

Go vote vivax


That does not align.

Wtf are you talking about


You say to vote Vivax, and then 10 minutes later say he is capable of playing as town like this and shouldn't be voted


This still stands by the way. "Vivax is capable as playing as town he isn't we should kill" - this clearly says that Vivax is not who we should kill. 10 minutes before, he said we should kill Vivax.


Vivax is capable of playing as town, he isn't, therefore we should kill him.

He's not saying we shouldn't kill me he just skipped grammar school.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 19:09 GMT
#1517
Kurumi has made a pretty smart observation, I just am unable to fact check it? When he said that iamp pushed for HF and three people (Dandel, Acro, SL) apparently agreed but nobody ever did something about it. This would be a good argument for them to be mafia, but Dandel only says that it's good to use the KP and I don't see SL writing anything about it at all.

If Kurumi can find the posts he can get a free TR for this though, also positive is that he actually can troll if he wants to (which he likes to as mafia) but talks serious with iamp.

Retracting my TR on acro as well.

1. He is actually one of the guys who was just advocating killing HF without doing something about it (he might just have said it to play along with iamp) and
2. He's taking this stance where he just sits on the sidelines just telling people what they want to hear and occasionally shitposting. (also playing along with iamp).

I feel like iamp is the main guy driving the thread forward however misguided, and acro just sucking up to him with his opinions. And suck up acro is mafia acro.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 19:18 GMT
#1525
This also makes TT probs mafia:

Notice his opinion on ritoky. Doesn't seem that sure that he's town, right?

On October 21 2016 19:47 Tictock wrote:
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On October 21 2016 13:03 ritoky wrote:
give a read on me


Aww Rit (initially read this as a cry for attn)

Honestly I was thinking you were solid town until I saw you put HF (and a few others, but w/e) into your town list. Given that HF has been pushing you for a pretty silly meta-reason and you basically gave no reaction to that nor did you try to engage HF about it feels really off to me.

Like if you are town then either HF is scum trying to lynch you so you push back, or you think he is mistaken town and try to talk to him. Instead you basically ignored HF and give him an easy townread?


On October 21 2016 20:25 Tictock wrote:
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On October 21 2016 17:55 ritoky wrote:
On October 21 2016 17:23 Tictock wrote:
On October 21 2016 05:34 ritoky wrote:
town is something like:
ritoky
holyflare
iamp
btdt
exo
ptmc
kurumi
hopeless
dandel
wos


I really dislike this list...

Putting yourself on top is such a dick move. Also you put almost everyone I'm considering to be scum atm in this list.

And clearly missed some obv town.


Also, the bolded alone might make TT mafia.


Lol come at me. Not impressed that you can call yourself town.


Yet when he gives his reasons for voting for me:

On October 21 2016 20:57 Tictock wrote:
YAY I'm caught up!

Still think ptmc is a solid lynch, but Vivax is pretty good too. Actually Vivax might be better kus he clearly picked Rels due to him only having one post which means he's at least put some effort into reading the game but that's all he's got is "lynch Rels" and easy townreads.

Speaking of Rels... not sure what to do with him. He is a pretty capable player as either alignment so him making that one throwaway post is pretty odd. Was gunna say something about expecting him to replace out if he was town and has no time to play, but then I realized that might be even more true if he was scum... Yea idk what I want to do with his slot.

Still think the stuff between Rit and HF is weird. Besides the stuff I said about Rit earlier I'm pretty inclined to townread him though, whereas nothing I've seen from HF makes me think he is town. Which brings me back to Kurumi (I think I spelled his name right) and his weird hard-on for HF. I'm not sure scum makes all those wierd list posts though.

Still want to review Iam. Everything I've seen from him is well within standard scum play imo and despite liking his posting more as time goes on I can't shake my initial impression.

LT is another person I'm considering as scum. I don't think he's really said anything other than "fuck the people I don't know" to which I respond "well fuck you too"

Oh and Koshi, can't forget Koshi. I'm really far from townreading Koshi i just want to lynch other people more... which honestly probably means Koshi is scum. Like that feeling is pretty much exactly why he's skated by his last few scum games.


My townreads were: Iamp, ritoky among these. And I just don't see TT having them as easy townreads like he claims mine were. Which is to prove further that his reason to suspect me is construed.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 19:20 GMT
#1530
On October 22 2016 04:13 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 04:09 Vivax wrote:
Kurumi has made a pretty smart observation, I just am unable to fact check it? When he said that iamp pushed for HF and three people (Dandel, Acro, SL) apparently agreed but nobody ever did something about it. This would be a good argument for them to be mafia, but Dandel only says that it's good to use the KP and I don't see SL writing anything about it at all.

If Kurumi can find the posts he can get a free TR for this though, also positive is that he actually can troll if he wants to (which he likes to as mafia) but talks serious with iamp.

Retracting my TR on acro as well.

1. He is actually one of the guys who was just advocating killing HF without doing something about it (he might just have said it to play along with iamp) and
2. He's taking this stance where he just sits on the sidelines just telling people what they want to hear and occasionally shitposting. (also playing along with iamp).

I feel like iamp is the main guy driving the thread forward however misguided, and acro just sucking up to him with his opinions. And suck up acro is mafia acro.


i called hf townie...


Yeh that's the only thing I found as well on you. So I dnu might be Kurumi just made all that up.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 19:26 GMT
#1540
I don't see how lunatic is mafia at all
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 19:28 GMT
#1541
On October 21 2016 20:57 Tictock wrote:
easy townreads.


Still want to review Iam. Everything I've seen from him is well within standard scum play imo and despite liking his posting more as time goes on I can't shake my initial impression.


Btw while snipping the post I forgot to emphasize this as well. (Iamp was one of my "easy townreads").

So yeah time to die for ticktock.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 19:37 GMT
#1553
On October 22 2016 04:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
This tictock wagon is weak. I dont think he's scum. He also hasn't even voted. If he ninjavotes, I'll be all for lynching tictock but right now it doesnt feel like a good lynch.


There are good reasons to be voting for him, no matter whether he did or not. What would your alternative be, anyway?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 19:38 GMT
#1554
On October 22 2016 04:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
you're lynching him because he said Vivax has "easy townreads", but contradicts himself in literally the same post. Thats way too obvious.


So obvious you noticed it first, right?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 20:41 GMT
#1644
TT why did you treat my vote on Rels as if it was serious?

I literally chose a random guy with the same amount of filter as me to be even more ridiculous and your argument was that I read the thread and yet did nothing.

I read a bit of thread this morning, enough to form the townreads that followed in the actual serious post.

So I don't see your argument. It was that I only formed townreads (which you didn't inquire about), and that I voted Rels. What is your argument now?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 20:51 GMT
#1673
On October 22 2016 05:46 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 05:41 Vivax wrote:
TT why did you treat my vote on Rels as if it was serious?

I literally chose a random guy with the same amount of filter as me to be even more ridiculous and your argument was that I read the thread and yet did nothing.

I read a bit of thread this morning, enough to form the townreads that followed in the actual serious post.

So I don't see your argument. It was that I only formed townreads (which you didn't inquire about), and that I voted Rels. What is your argument now?


You make 2 posts well over halfway through the phase, why should I just assume they are jokes?

My argument was exactly that you had enough knowledge of the game to pickout Rels but had nothing else to comment on.


I've never had the intention for an afk guy like Rels to be the lynch.
There is no knowledge of the game involved besides me knowing that Rels was afk like me.
My townreads weren't jokes. My first post was.

And up until now your read on me is still for the same reasons? Do you even adapt?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 21 2016 20:54 GMT
#1684
On October 22 2016 05:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 03:53 Koshi wrote:
Well i gtg watch independance day. Glhf.

20.53

Show nested quote +
On October 22 2016 05:51 Koshi wrote:
Well movie is over. Dont know how I can easy your minds. My role is pro town and I can proof it. You will see.

22.51

Independence Day 2 is according to wikipedia 120 minutes long

really, Koshi?


He always fast forwards on the romance scenes
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 24 2016 11:55 GMT
#2803
Yo, I was at a glacier this weekend and my care level for this game is really low. I'll just play now and you lynch me anyway. That's fine, I'd do the same in your stead.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 24 2016 13:35 GMT
#2859
The good:

1. Hopeless.
He played and actually cared. I've never seen him care this much I believe. Last time he was mafia he behaved and talked like a guy standing dazed in front of a naked specimen of his preferred gender, then fell unconscious and nobody ever heard of him since. He is completely incapable of playing as mafia.

2. Iamperfection. I honestly have no clue how he plays mafia. But I somehow always know when he's town. Maybe he just always rolls town, maybe I'm just this good. It certainly has nothing to do with the way he plays. But he's town. He's obnoxious towards suspicious people and frantically searches remote places for mafia. He has this righteous, condescending tone in his posts.

3. Artanis. He's serious. There's no playing around. It's the empire mafia criterion. He'll just fool around and joke rather than get to work this blatantly as mafia. So I'm doing this call just based on that. I don't think I've seen a single gif? Maybe he's ill, most certainly he's being a good townie boy his parents would be proud of.

4. Dandel. Don't ask me why, I don't think I have a logical reason to TR him it's just what feels right.

5. Exo. I liked how he went after Wave D1 with the bar example and shit. Very aggressive overall but I think that in that too calm town atmosphere he did something scum wouldn't have done: Stir things up.

The ugly:

1. Bill Murray. This guy can just do what the hell he wants cause nobody ever had any clue how to read him in the history of mafia. He actually can have decent reads as town and be scary as mafia. Just the type of guy you will get insane over at a situation like lylo. Good luck boys.

Kurumi: Not that ugly actually. His lists had a meaning, and he bothered to start communicating normally afterwards. He doesn't feel the urge to do that as mafia. If anything, when he's mafia he just trolls, posts gibberish and doesn't give a damn about your opinion. On the good side of ugly.

KamasutraXTacoshopu:
Dunno, really. Focuses on superficial things like a newbie would do (shitposters=mafia, helpful=town). Hasn't yet mastered the art of saying "I am". He's the descartian nightmare, but it seems like it's a sentient being. I'm going with town for his focus on superficial things however, seems natural enough.

LordTolkien:
It bothers me that his initial list are people he would lynch just cause he doesn't know them. If he knows how to read the other people, he should certainly be able to find scum among them? Seems like a minor rebuttal, but is telling for laziness and has shown that he rather would make a very shallow list. Wanting to lynch kurumi for the emotes is also very superficial. They actually meant something if he bothered to figure it out.
Later on he plays some thread police, posts some stuff related to game mechanics, talks about germans in lederhosen, puts up the lynch mob face for Koshi. Alrighty, if he's mafia he's doing splendidly. I can't tell for sure yet.

Acrofales: He's just here cause he's ugly. I'm firmly convinced he is. Actually I just don't want to read his posts too much unfounded hate, this guy is just a bully and bullies don't deserve attention, just basic attacks.

Koshi: Felt really underwhelming at the beginning. Lacked too much third person and typical strongheadedness. But I have seen Koshi being like this as town, actually. He's just not very consistent in his tone, and just activity wise I think he looks townie enough. Plus if his claim is real, a double lynch doesn't seem like a mafia ability. So I'm leaving him kinda in between. I feel like he's becoming more townie as time passes. I just wonder why he's not on a crusade against me yet. meh.

Glowingbear: Slight townlean. Why? Cause he is scared when he's mafia. He isn't scared here. He's acting like some innocent teddy bear everyone's supposed to leave alone. Zero aggression shown towards his attackers. When Palmar got him on the hook D1 in another game he lashed back out towards him, he didn't make puppy eyes and ask "why" like here. For the time being he's staying in the ugly though. Cause he can do better than that.

The bad:

Tubesock: Goes on a rant about me being mafia and how we will have this for days and days. Quotes a game where I have like 7 posts as example. He realizes it's not really how I always play scum after ptmc points it out but doesn't really pursue that thought further. It's obvious he is just happy with having a reason to scumread me even after having it invalidated, ends up voting TickTock with me after having that train of thought. I believe he should have been much more determined to keep his vote on me after what he said.

Koroko: Has three posts. Claims third party, wins by creating fake accounts. Sounds too good to be true. Not necessarily mafia but definitely a something from outside this world that needs cleansing.




As for SL, ptmc, WoS, Skynx, ritoky. I don't wanna put them into these categories
Off the top of my head, mafia WoS tends to longish posts. SL just loses the grip on the game and misunderstands stuff, ritoky acts smug and spams stuff for fun a bit like scumtanis. I cba to check for those tendencies on these guys I'd like to have them around a bit longer anyway.

From a glance ptmc seemed townie at first but he has kinda dropped off and his list seemed a bit superficial.

Skynx on the other hand was brutally honest about how he forgot about something and couldn't be arsed to go over it again in his list thingy and that earns him town points in my book.

Either way, I'd lynch tube and the 3p claim next.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22229 Posts
October 24 2016 13:36 GMT
#2861
I realize this most likely won't change a thing about my lynch but at least those who care have my opinion for posterity and I don't feel like an ass for not playing.
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