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silentwarrior
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silentwarrior
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But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote: This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted. So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us. On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote: I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game ##vote Race Bannon See you all in a few days Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post. I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do. ##vote Kelsier SC | ||
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silentwarrior
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Kelsier on the other hand said outright that he could post but wouldn't because nothing "reasonable had been posted". But he dosen't post anything at all and says he will even wait. To me that seems a lot more suspicous than posting nonsense. Remember, we are here to lynch mafia not people we don't like. That makes my vote much better than Kelsier. Not to mention it puts pressure on him to not just "see us in a few days" but actually post during this time. Also, I never said that I wouldn't vote for Race given reason(even said I had no problem with Kelsier voting for him). I didn't vote for Kelsier because he didn't post, I voted for him because he could post but said he wouldn't and instead wait to see what others posted. You have to agree that's kind of suspicous, right? | ||
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silentwarrior
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silentwarrior
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On August 01 2016 07:45 scott31337 wrote: This seems reasonable for a Day 1 post. Has your opinion changed at all? My opinion hasn't changed that much. My problem with Kelsier wasn't that he voted against Race or even that he didn't contribute. Rather, it was that he wanted others to post more constructive stuff but he himself was going to not post even though he could. That to me struck as very strange. Granted, it was the first few post and I did state that my vote on him was mainly to pressure him to post. But reading his latest posts he dosen't still dosen't seem to want to contribute, but still blames others for this. Also, do you mean my post is reasonable or Kelsier? | ||
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silentwarrior
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Stutters695: I'm pretty sure stutters is mafia. He begins with basically calling out Race and wanting to lynch him. A little too easy tbh, but still nothing suspect about that since Race was spamming hard at that point. But then, basically the only thing he does is ask others opinions and adding nothing himself. He then says he would prefer to lynch a lurker, and if not a lurker then grack, for which his reasoning is only 2 sentences. Then goes on to agree with other people and asking questions adding nothing himself. But then, contrary to his position before on lynching a lurker, minutes after celestial votes for me he places his vote on me as well. At this point he hasn't said a word about me at all and the only thing he says about the vote is "this guy gets it" about celestials vote on me. He basically only votes for me because celestials does. That's what it looks like, because he gave no indication that he thought I was mafia before. Certainly not enough to warrant a vote on me. You guys should really take a look at his filter. Kelsier: I don't know what to think about him anymore. My first post about him was partly to get him to actually post more so I could get a better read on him. At that time, he didn't want to post because there wasn't anything "good" in thread yet. But then, when thread gets some content he comes in and basically says this game is "terrible" and still won't post anything at all about his views about the game. What possible reason was there to not post then? Or after, because he still hasn't said anthing for a while. Right now I'm leaning scum on him. Celestial: I liked his big post. I obviously disagree with him about me but his post definetly shows that he is out to analyze us and hunt mafia. I agree with him on some stuff there. But I think he confuses opinions he dosen't like being equal to mafia. He does this to me, since his main reason against me is that he disagrees with me and that is the reason he votes to lynch me. He also gives people towncred for being against me for the same reason. I'm still leaning town on him though. Scott/Race: On Race actions, I admit I was wrong. I thought it was just early game posting to get people to talk. But he was just a spammer. On scott however I think he is town. His entry post to me seems very town-like. He immedietly accuses 4 people of scum. To me, mafia are more careful and I can't see them coming in and doing that during first posts. Granted, you can fake being careless, but what reason would mafia have to get on 4 people's bad side for calling them mafia? He is townlean for me. beentheredonethat: This guy seems like a newbie to me. People have mentioned his post about lynching Race before replacement, but I don't think it was really that alignment indictive honestly. He seems generally a little clumsy in his posts. His vote on Lunatic didn't have that much content. Mostly it was meta and the fact that lunatic wasn't pushing anyone. He is null to me right now. I will post more about the rest of the players too, but wanted to get this out here first. ##Unvote ##Vote: Stutters695 | ||
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silentwarrior
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On August 02 2016 06:34 Stutters695 wrote: I was fine with a plynch, now I'll vote for one of silent/mderg(pending a re-read of his filter). Silent's entire comeback post is a summary except his "case" on me. His "case" shows either a complete lack of following the thread (it was incredibly obvious my vote was for a plynch, as well as C's) or, more maliciously, intentional misrepresentation. Either way, that isn't going to cut it after disappearing for so long. How was your vote on me a policy lynch? For that matter, how am I supposed to know it's a policy lynch when you write no arguments or anything to back up your vote? Celestial posted arguments and thouthts about me before voting, even if I disagree about them. | ||
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silentwarrior
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silentwarrior
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On August 02 2016 07:04 Stutters695 wrote: Pretty straightforward that it's a plynch. As I said, he had made other arguments about me before. But you haven't even mentioned me before the vote, and you just quote Celestial vote just 4 minutes after he made it. So in 4 minutes you went from never mentioning me to voting for me? Also, please explain how it is a policy lynch. On what basis do you lynch me on? You still haven't said that other than saying it's a policy lynch. | ||
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silentwarrior
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On August 02 2016 07:16 -Celestial- wrote: If we leave aside the fact I think you're kinda scummy...honestly you have a bit of a point that he's not really said much about you. In a normal game I'd say it was very weird but given the rock-bottom activity level its significantly harder to read. That being said I don't think its out of line where he said about lynching a lurker and then voted you. You weren't in thread for ages at that point. You were lurking. After throwing out a few scummy posts throwing probably-undeserved shade on KSC. It wasn't a great look for you. That's not the thing that sticks out about the vote. It's that he dosen't mention me at all, then without much explanation votes for me, quoted your vote only 4 minutes after you posted it. Didn't say anything at all himself. Also, you can't still think it's still undeserved shade at KSC? He was in thread not too long ago and still didn't contribute. I'd say some of that shade is pretty deserved by now. | ||
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silentwarrior
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On August 02 2016 07:15 Stutters695 wrote: It shows either a general lack of disinterest(not following along) or an inability to make actual reads. 1) blatant misunderstanding/misrepresentation in his case on me. 2) his point on Scott again shows how little attention he is actually paying. He didn't immediately accuse 4 people of being scum, he said he'd expect to find scum on the wagon and would thus look into them. 3) his scum reads don't show a lot of thought in them while his town reads do. When I first rolled mafia it was incredibly hard to give scum reads with any sort of genuine belief when you know they're town. Bussing and town reads are much easier to give. I'm getting those vibes hard from his comeback post and his lynch gives much more info than a lynch on mderg. 1) Explain 2) He did say "So I'm going to look at who voted for him and when and I think we'll find mafia there." and then mentioned the four people my name. What else is that? 3) You just said one of my townreads showed I had little attention, now you say they have are good? Also, you are using meta for yourself on me. It dosen't work like that. | ||
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silentwarrior
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On August 02 2016 07:36 -Celestial- wrote: If you think I'm scum, shenanie onto me right now. Because this game is silly as hell. Incidentally, mderg just transferred the kill vote to himself I think. Though an updated count would be great to confirm. Rules say most recent, so he was set from before his change. I think im the one that's set now. Im gonna vote mderg for that reason. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mderg | ||
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silentwarrior
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##Unvote ##Vote: Mderg | ||
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silentwarrior
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silentwarrior
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On August 02 2016 13:08 -Celestial- wrote: The fact your voting patterns match, however, is an actual thing that happened. ...I'm really going to bed now. Its ten past five in the morning. -_- 1st vote of Grack on Kelsier was obv not serious. 2nd vote I'll grant you we both had same person 3rd was mostly survival for me. I thought you knew better than this. Are you really accusing us of mafia for this? | ||
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silentwarrior
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On August 02 2016 20:51 Skynx wrote: And thats about it I guess. Rels/Grack/Silent is possible but prolly one of them is town. Alternatively add Scott in there and make it 2/4. Luna/KSC/btdt are really low hanging fruits, watch out for anyone pushing lynches on them early on based on activity/contribution. Celest/Stutters/Moosy/Jroc I won't be lynching for a while. I'm sure 3rd scum will giveaway stuff if we keep the track on them 4 on mderg train. Did you just put everyone that voted for Mderg as red? If so, then first where is scott? Second, explain why voting for mderg means you are scum, especially my vote since I only voted to not get lynched myself. If that's not how you picked the reds then I want an explanation on why, because you haven't given one. | ||
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silentwarrior
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silentwarrior
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Rels: At the start I got a town feeling from him. His push on mderg was imo credible and I don't think he should be faulted that it resulted in mislynch. Mderg looked scum there. But then he says he likes a list where he is listed as mafia. Not sure if he just missed it or simply liked the list without even reading it, but it is kind of strange. Especially since he is listed as the first mafia. For now he is null to me, and I think I need more to make a better assesment. Moosy: His first page in filter amounts to basically nothing. No reads or lynch targets or anything on a whole page. His 3rd post he has basically not much content of his own. Only thing of worth is saying he agrees with scott. He then looks at votepattern, sees me and grack have voted for same person, and without looking into it much just says "yep, these 2 are mafia". He didn't even look at timing or reasoning of those votes at all. He then basically only posts fluff and asks others what they think. Actually, that's 90% of all his posts. Strange to think someone with 3 pages in filter has so little actual content. He is scum lean for me. J Roc: His voting last night seem to just be bad internet. He said before that he didn't want to lynch mderg, so that explains his last minute switch. He also explained his vote to scott, and even if I disagree with his reasoning it there was nothing scummy about it. He is townlean for me right now. Skynx: He starts out with calling out race and btdt for his post on lynching race. He then has a really good response to celestials intro post and dosent just fawn all over him (like lunatic) but disagrees on some points. He then tries to get people to leave scotts vote, which is good since I agree with it, but also because he recognized that some of those votes where from RB time here. But then he flips a little on stutters, saying first he is scum, then one of 3 townies, then one of 4 scum, which seemed very odd to me. He also says my defense was lackluster in a post I didn't make, and with no other thoughts on the matter. He also goes back on stutters again and calls him town again. He also posted that list which had almost no thought in it, only says people are scum because they voted for mderg, which is strange logic. He does however see the stutters/celestial buddying up, which speaks to his credit. All in all he is null for me. Grack: He was the first to point out that even though people might disagree with my assesment on KSC, that dosen´t necesarily mean im mafia. He also points out I put myself in spotlight and made the first serious post. He did flip around on votes between stutter, lunatic and mderg, which was kind of strange to me. But he did post suspicons on both lunatic and stutters beforehand. I did like his defense against stutters case as well. Considering everything, he is townlean for me. Also gonna posta a seperate post for lunatic. | ||
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silentwarrior
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Lunatic started of the game with saying he think Race was town for his excesive posting. But when Grack said the same thing he says "I don't know how you came to that conclusion" and says it's an easy way to get town points. But Lunatic literally did the same thing 4 posts before.: On August 01 2016 04:36 Lunaticman wrote: I don't know how you came to that conclusion but since he is being replaced can you please elaborate on this read. Also this is a good way to get town cred now that he is getting replaced. He also says he dosen't want to post a lot because apparently in another game that ticked people off. That is a huge red flag for me. I don't think anyone would not want someone to post a lot. He says he will cutdown posting for that reason. On August 01 2016 05:32 Lunaticman wrote: Well I don't really know what to make of that tbh, but it sounds super fishy? I think I had to change a few things about my playstyle here also. I ticked of a lot of the other townies last game because of my excessive posting. So guess I will try to cutback a bit on the posting but I just hope we get some discussions going. At that point he had done no analyzing or contributed in the slightest. He then attacks KSC in what can only be desribed as an easy way to get town points. He states that KSC went back on his word, even though he did no such thing and puts words in his mouth. He basically tries to make a case out of nothing. On August 01 2016 05:38 Lunaticman wrote: So are you having regrets about something? Your first posts really didn't put you in a good position becauset they were a super lame buss attempt on a "policy lynch" (however I don't think many would disagree on it), I would consider this was more of a towny mistake than anything but if I was town I wouldn't go back on what I said like that without an explination something like: "hey I messed that one up and thought he was super annoying". No intead you were like "Hi I'm town". It's like your just trying to hide what you previously stated. I would definatly not have a problem lynching you for your posting behaviour tbh. When celestial comes in with his big post he becomes his no:1 fanboy and basically tries his best at buddying up with him. The following post is nothing but licking celestials boot. On August 01 2016 12:11 Lunaticman wrote: First I just want to say what an incredible post, I love it! Also no mafia would ever write a post that is so coherent so you are the best town lean in the game for me atm. Tbh I didnt even realize rels was in the game, my god bring out another salt shacker for me lol. Yeah also I think I misunderstood the term bussing, I think I was thinking of like a train? When someone stacks votes on a player. I dont know the proper terminology for it. Be back in a couple of hours from work. Also, he says he cant trust Grac here: On August 01 2016 04:36 Lunaticman wrote: It feels like you are also sceptical of Grac, I don't know if I will be able to trust him. Also I think he is playing similar to last game so far. I don't know if that is good or bad. The big difference is that he is contributing "more" atm so that should indicate he is towny? But just a few posts after he calls him town after his skepticism isn't shared by skynx. He then goes back on his word twice on grack in one post. He says he thinks he is probably town but will "wait and see". Basically not wanting to take a stance at all and keeping his options open, very scumlike. On August 01 2016 18:40 Lunaticman wrote: That's what I did I must say I think he played brilliantly last game so of course I put him under the spotlight. I think he is probably town since it feels like he's intention is to solve the game atm. But he already fooled me once so we will have to wait and see I suppose. He then puts his vote on Rels, who was still inactive at that point. He was probably the easiest vote seeing as he was inactive. No one would even think twice about it, not even rels. After that he goes on to say that rels should accept resposibility for mislynching mderg, which makes no sense. Mderg was honestly acting scummy, and having mislynched someone obv don't make you mafia. Also, now that some of the thread have moved against Grac, he flips again from previous position and calls grac scummy. To me all this points that Lunatic is Mafia. | ||
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silentwarrior
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Oh, and since it is day now. ##Vote Lunaticman | ||
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