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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-24 17:22:16
November 22 2006 13:37 GMT
#1
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BattleBorn: A Battle Montage

A movie about the Fastest map community and its gameplay.

Thanks to everyone else on Bnet & SCD who adds to the dramatic melting pot that is our Fastest Map Community.

With these words ends the movie. The question that comes to mind when introduced to any movie, particularly from another of our communities that may not be of our interest, is: is it worth watching? The answer is yes. Will you like it? I do not know. I enjoyed it. I kept me entertained from beginning to end. I was pleasantly surprised at how many classic tactics that we see in "low money" melee, as they like to call us, are used with rather disturbing success in the fastest money community. One must weigh in the fact that I never really played fastest or money maps so my experience in their world is next to zero, nevertheless micro is micro. Regardless the type of StarCraft gaming most movies focus on micro and this movie is no exception.

Is it well done? Yes. Please bare in mind that it is not directed by Ridley Scott nor Dino De Laurentiis(I). I give it a 8/10 overall and it would have been a 9/10 if we could have been spared of a few details which in a younger audience would probably add to the movie, not subtract. Also at around minute 10 the music becomes unbearable for a short while, but this of course is a very personal view. If I had to give the movie makers only one advice, it would be to remove the few mini-map screenshots or clips. I know it is a biased advice, but money maps in general provide horrendous mini-maps images that will scare even the most tolerant low money player away and any decent map makers out there.

I do beg dear forum member to spare us from the usual shallow minded comments about whether Fastest deserves any of our attention, or the endless squabbles between money and no money map StarCraft gaming. We have heard many such arguments ad nauseum over the years and they never lead anywhere. Also to be noted is that should they switch to low money, which I suspect most do eventually, I have a feeling they will only add longevity to our game. They, the Fastest community, are just another facet in our community at large, and if one thing comes clear from this movie, they have their own identity and they are indeed StarCraft gamers.

Movie Details
A Battle Production & Cal Creations. Editing by Calvino
One movie divided in three sections:
BattleCal- Hail the victorious Dead.
Battlerival - This is really going to hurt
BattleCheese - Battle with Honor and Humanity
Size: RAR file, 306 MB
Duration: 13:30 min:sec

Source
http://www.starcraftdream.com/showthread.php?t=16272

Hosting & Download link provided by ClanLare
http://www.clanlare.com/entity/Battle Montage Final.rar

One more for my collection.

Enjoy ~

_____________________________________________________________________________________

A word from the movie maker

Calvino United States. November 24 2006 23:29. Posts 1 wrote: Thx a lot for the overwhelming feedback all. I enjoyed reading all your comments, critiques, downfalls, etc. I accept suggestions openly, and I'm definitely not one to get mad over peoples opinions of my work.

I want you all to keep in mind that this was my very first video! It took me two months for 13 minutes. It was fun ^_^ lol

Anyway, I'll admit I think I over did it on the effects, but all in all I feel it turned out nicely. I liked the theme I chose and the quotes, etc. I play both low money and fastest, but I excel at fastest map so I chose to make a montage over that which I'm best at.

I'm glad a majority of you enjoyed it, and I'll keep in mind your suggestions when I set out to make my second. <3

-Cal-
Cal Creations™
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 22 2006 13:44 GMT
#2
Downloading... I'll comment once I've seen it.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
November 22 2006 13:48 GMT
#3
--- Nuked ---
DarK]N[exuS
Profile Joined April 2006
China1441 Posts
November 22 2006 13:54 GMT
#4
On November 22 2006 22:48 Jumperer wrote:
no

Where joy exists despair will always beckon.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
November 22 2006 14:02 GMT
#5
That gave me quite the headache; not because it was on money maps, but because of all the zoom, movement, and flashing.

You know the intros that are in most of the Pimpest Play videos, it's like that except for nearly the whole time.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
November 22 2006 14:12 GMT
#6
Thanks fo rthe great intro physician, b/c if it werent for your writeup I wouldnt watch it.
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-22 14:20:55
November 22 2006 14:18 GMT
#7
On November 22 2006 23:12 thedeadhaji wrote: Thanks fo rthe great intro physician, b/c if it werent for your writeup I wouldnt watch it.

And you nailed it. That is the only reason I wrote it, to give the movie the merit it deserves. It has been literally ignored by all outside their own community, and yeah, maybe a few zooms too many, but it ain't bad. It is better than a lot of the stuff you can find on YouTube that sometimes gets glorified as good or funny, when it is actually just more crap cluttering the pipes..
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
November 22 2006 14:20 GMT
#8
Some of these moves aren't impressive in the least. --;

The nuking of the carriers; blind luck.
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 22 2006 14:21 GMT
#9
I just finished watching it, it was pretty good. Definitely worth seeing. Although a lot of their cool moves wouldn't be there in the first place had it not been the lack of control from the other side.

Still worth seeing though.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
HnR)o.o
Profile Joined October 2006
United States91 Posts
November 22 2006 14:31 GMT
#10
It was funny in some parts like the probe recall. I just didn't find it very entertaining but I'm not into that type of melee. Still the video was done really well, some decent music, and some funny parts. Worth seeing.
A cute girl stopped me on the way, so I danced.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-22 14:53:14
November 22 2006 14:42 GMT
#11
The fuck you talkin about? This sucked. Even pum's movie where he blatantly ripped off both nada and oov from replays he probably knew almost everyone had seen, claiming that it was this mysteryland figure was better than this. This had tons of obnoxious zoom in, the quality of the play was bad, whether or not it takes equal skill is irrelevant, let's not bring this argument up again. Some clips were decent, such as the mass sheild batteries one and the maelstrom+storm clips, but some of them were beyond retarded. 150 lings attack moving into a protoss base? 20 vultures vs THREE WHOPPING ZEALOTS OMGFG? Bad movie in general.
The fastest map community DOES get some undeserved bad rep due to the thousands and thousands of 14 year old bnet kiddies who play 3v3 fastest map ever and have no talent whatsoever, but some of these people who play fastest are genuinely talented and creative and could succeed in real starcraft with a small crash course, the mechanical skills of the guy doing the first person capture were acceptable, below the average of a given low money player. 1v1 fastest, and most of the clips featured in the movie were 1v1, is at least more respectable than talentless idiot carrier massing 3v3 pickup game only players.
Sorry, but I just didn't like it. It was worth watching purely for some perspective on the fastest map ever "community".

Hosting was sex, 943kbs per sec+
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
HnR)o.o
Profile Joined October 2006
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-22 15:03:54
November 22 2006 15:02 GMT
#12
A cute girl stopped me on the way, so I danced.
DarK]N[exuS
Profile Joined April 2006
China1441 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-22 15:10:33
November 22 2006 15:09 GMT
#13
On November 22 2006 23:42 Drowsy wrote:
The fuck you talkin about? This sucked. Even pum's movie where he blatantly ripped off both nada and oov from replays he probably knew almost everyone had seen, claiming that it was this mysteryland figure was better than this. This had tons of obnoxious zoom in, the quality of the play was bad, whether or not it takes equal skill is irrelevant, let's not bring this argument up again. Some clips were decent, such as the mass sheild batteries one and the maelstrom+storm clips, but some of them were beyond retarded. 150 lings attack moving into a protoss base? 20 vultures vs THREE WHOPPING ZEALOTS OMGFG? Bad movie in general.
The fastest map community DOES get some undeserved bad rep due to the thousands and thousands of 14 year old bnet kiddies who play 3v3 fastest map ever and have no talent whatsoever, but some of these people who play fastest are genuinely talented and creative and could succeed in real starcraft with a small crash course, the mechanical skills of the guy doing the first person capture were acceptable, below the average of a given low money player. 1v1 fastest, and most of the clips featured in the movie were 1v1, is at least more respectable than talentless idiot carrier massing 3v3 pickup game only players.
Sorry, but I just didn't like it. It was worth watching purely for some perspective on the fastest map ever "community".

Hosting was sex, 943kbs per sec+


So why can't you simply say you don't like it, since Physician already covered that many in the FPM community are skilled. Basically all you added was your rant about how much the movie sucked, which was completely unnecessary.

I liked it. It's interesting to see some of the FPM games, since I've never even played on the map. That's not true....I've played a few games. It was fun. And people like you seem to forget that the point of a game is fun. He made the movie for fun too. So don't be a complete asshat about it. However I do agree that a few of the SFX were over the top, but first time movie makers (as was stated he was) always do that.
Where joy exists despair will always beckon.
Never Post
Profile Joined July 2004
United Kingdom503 Posts
November 22 2006 15:24 GMT
#14
Some of the stuff was nice to look at but not really impressive. But a lot of it was funny, in the way that players micro'd horribly or made completely unnecessarily moves. Like maelstorming the miners or micro'ing 12 Vultures against a few slow Zealots. I don't play fastest but I still thought it was all right, apart from the headache inducing effects at times.
Note to self: [You have short term memory loss - you did post this]
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 22 2006 15:35 GMT
#15
The effort you put into your posts is amazing Physician, great job! <3
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
November 22 2006 15:35 GMT
#16
.. a few tactics that are specific to their own community that would not translate to low money gameplay e.g. desperate stasis on your own workers to save them, given their restricted mining space, seems like a sound last minute solution. I am pretty sure most of our gameplay can be applied in their games but not vice versa. It was nice to see something different for a change.
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Bajadulce
Profile Joined October 2004
United States322 Posts
November 22 2006 16:19 GMT
#17
Ya, I remember being a 20 year old surf punk in Socal.. thinking I was a bad ass; giving crap to anyone with a longboard. "how could they ride those stupid things? Nobody cool rides those!" 20 years later, turns out I was the "minority" and "they" were the majority. Missed out on a lot of fun by not giving an "occasional" longboard a try.

.... sorry 300mb bit big for me... I'm sure it was a lot of work tho! And I'm sure it's as you say better than 90% of the nonsense on youtube. Wonder if they made a "preview"?
Planar Erratus: (www.broodwarai.com/mods/peai) Where the worlds of Baldur’s Gate, Arcanum, Diablo, Icewind Dale, Torment, and Warcraft collide with Starcraft. Don't question, just play! ... Dedicated to all my TL.net friends and old schoolers!
lastprobeALIVE
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States973 Posts
November 22 2006 16:20 GMT
#18
Movie wasn't good at all. It is amazing to see fastest people using maelstorm, but with the kind of resources they have I would tech everything. Boring imo
when in doubt DT out
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42605 Posts
November 22 2006 17:35 GMT
#19
Fairly boring in all honesty. And the moves were either not that great or performed vs noobs. I mean the nuke vs carrier thing, what was he really expecting to happen if he ignored the little red dot. I guess it wouldn't be so boring if I liked fastest but there you go. Not bad as such, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you feel nostalgic over fpm.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
November 22 2006 18:47 GMT
#20
a bit like watching two cheaters in cs play each other. both cheat and suck at the same time, but theyre so stupid it makes for one helluva funny watch.

BOOM HEADSHOT YEAH wow nice fragg video... only uh... youre cheating.

nice sc vid of fights, only uhh... youre cheating.

i seriously dont see how you can argue that fastest takes skill. its like argueing that aimbot takes skill.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
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