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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 20 2014 07:50 GMT
#121
/in
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 02:31 GMT
#425
We should lynch into the clearest read cells first.

We win by hitting 3 scum - this game plays out more like Resistance than traditional mafia. Doesn't matter what quality of players we have at the end. Hitting scum early is best.

That said I think Cell A or B should be first - probably B due to higher activity. Then C, E, D.

ritoky is most sensible for coming up with a similar plan before me.

##Vote: ritoky
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 02:50 GMT
#433
On May 28 2014 11:37 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 28 2014 11:31 slOosh wrote:
We should lynch into the clearest read cells first.

We win by hitting 3 scum - this game plays out more like Resistance than traditional mafia. Doesn't matter what quality of players we have at the end. Hitting scum early is best.

That said I think Cell A or B should be first - probably B due to higher activity. Then C, E, D.

ritoky is most sensible for coming up with a similar plan before me.

##Vote: ritoky

So do you have an opinion on these cells players then? Seeing as ritoky's plan is most similar to yours and his was based off of a lot of reads, do yours add up to his?

My plan has nothing to do with current reads?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 02:55 GMT
#440
I'm stating that those cells would probably offer the clearest reads.

Cell B due to the activity level of poofter and WoS, as well as the contrary stance WoS has taken. I don't know how Cell B will end, but it probably won't be "well ... there's only 1 guy posting so lets coinflip between the other two".

Conversely, Cell D? I don't know these two and would like to avoid a repeat of Cell Mini 1 where we lynch between inactives.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 02:55 GMT
#442
On May 28 2014 11:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 11:50 slOosh wrote:
On May 28 2014 11:37 Holyflare wrote:
On May 28 2014 11:31 slOosh wrote:
We should lynch into the clearest read cells first.

We win by hitting 3 scum - this game plays out more like Resistance than traditional mafia. Doesn't matter what quality of players we have at the end. Hitting scum early is best.

That said I think Cell A or B should be first - probably B due to higher activity. Then C, E, D.

ritoky is most sensible for coming up with a similar plan before me.

##Vote: ritoky

So do you have an opinion on these cells players then? Seeing as ritoky's plan is most similar to yours and his was based off of a lot of reads, do yours add up to his?

My plan has nothing to do with current reads?

Show nested quote +

That said I think Cell A or B should be first - probably B due to higher activity. Then C, E, D.

ritoky is most sensible for coming up with a similar plan before me.


How can you even have a plan if it has nothing to do with reads? You like ritoky's plan but his is based on reads. If you like his plan you therefore must agree with his reads?

Ritoky's plan understands the role of information. That's what I like and view as similar.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 02:57 GMT
#443
Like, what's the point of running for mayor if you don't even have a plan?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 03:00 GMT
#446
On May 28 2014 11:58 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 28 2014 11:57 slOosh wrote:
Like, what's the point of running for mayor if you don't even have a plan?


Who is running for mayor without a plan?


Also I missed this poofter:
Show nested quote +

What you think of ObiWan? Do you really like layabout?
I get this odd feeling they both came into the thread upset or something maybe because we already caught Palmer and the noose is tightening around people like thrawn/Shaopi and tambo.


twat face and no are my responses

I'm sorry.

Holyflare, what is your plan for Cell order?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 03:04 GMT
#448
It is upon that very fact that I'm basing my cell order. Is my plan bad? If so, how?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 03:12 GMT
#453
Holyflare, did you read Cell Mini 1? If so, what do you think of their ordering?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 03:17 GMT
#457
On May 28 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 28 2014 12:12 slOosh wrote:
Holyflare, did you read Cell Mini 1? If so, what do you think of their ordering?


I was in that game......... -.- The ordering was something we decided as a group at the end of the day and it WOULD have worked out well if rayn didn't get wasted and fucked up the order. It would have followed the procedure I stated whereby we lynch the easy +town points first.

Oh god ... this is awkward ...
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 03:25 GMT
#459
On May 28 2014 12:19 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 28 2014 12:17 slOosh wrote:
On May 28 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
On May 28 2014 12:12 slOosh wrote:
Holyflare, did you read Cell Mini 1? If so, what do you think of their ordering?


I was in that game......... -.- The ordering was something we decided as a group at the end of the day and it WOULD have worked out well if rayn didn't get wasted and fucked up the order. It would have followed the procedure I stated whereby we lynch the easy +town points first.

Oh god ... this is awkward ...

where was the question leading?

Well I was going to get at the day 1 cell. Palmar + Sentinel + Coag. Essentially (as I saw it when I read) was that the town wanted to lynch to clear inactives, basically adopting the "who don't we want at LYLO". As evident from how it went down, even had Palmar been town, it would have been a terrible cell as mafia have a larger than normal influence compared to traditional games.

By having an "active" group such as cell B go forth, there is bound to be interaction and a much better shot at hitting the right lynch.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 03:37 GMT
#461
Yea I'm realizing maybe I did a poor job reading it.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 04:33 GMT
#465
ObiWanShinobi, do you have a preference of Cell Order?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 17:50 GMT
#526
On May 29 2014 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
if sloosh does not post soon after posting in detention then he could actually be mafia btw

And if I post I'm mafia? Quite the loaded statement here.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 18:17 GMT
#530
On May 29 2014 02:53 Holyflare wrote:
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On May 29 2014 02:50 slOosh wrote:
On May 29 2014 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
if sloosh does not post soon after posting in detention then he could actually be mafia btw

And if I post I'm mafia? Quite the loaded statement here.


how does that statement make sense :o? you posted in another game and hadn't posted here yet, people that don't really want to focus on a second game over their first are usually mafia who don't care but you've posted now (albeit nothing noteworthy) so it's all cool

The idea is that one could easily follow up with "hey he is mafia and only posting when called out". Which you would think people would realize is a pretty frail reason to lynch someone, but I've been mislynched enough times to overestimate the general townie's perceptive abilities.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 18:23 GMT
#534
On May 29 2014 02:22 batsnacks wrote:
PROPOSED CELL ORDER:
C, A, B, E, D

It's similar to ritoky's with one primary difference. I think the rikoty/MZ team in cell A has too much momentum right now to lynch first. I want to see where that momentum goes and I want to give Odin at least the extra day. If rikoty or MZ are mafia, lynching group A first is making it way too easy for them. I put groups D/E last because I feel like I know the least about them at this point in time.

How is that not specific?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 28 2014 18:44 GMT
#539
batsnacks, why C before B?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 29 2014 06:40 GMT
#743
On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now


What is with all you boys getting hard.

It's mafia. Not sex.

Also ritoky i give you 9/10 for the freedom messup.

We use our penises to scum hunt.

I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not...


And you are so sure on them, aren't you?

Why? What is your evidence.
though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely.
And the tone of his posts throw me off.

I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty.

I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina.

Sorry but way more powerful than your penis.

My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town

My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom.

Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up.


Ohhh.. Process of elimination.

Didn't realize he was in your cell.

I should probably look at that list.

Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet?

And are you just basing that case on his mayor post?

Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf?

George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.

King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all.

The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet.

+ Show Spoiler +
In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now.

slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 29 2014 06:41 GMT
#744
Guhh stupid mouse. Working on case.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 29 2014 06:57 GMT
#745
I'm reasonably sure that Meapak_Ziphh is the scum in Cell A.

I believe his strategy is to buddy up hard to one member to get support for lynching the other. Namely, buddying up to ritoky to lynch thrawn, now replaced with Odin.

Take one of his starting posts:
On May 28 2014 07:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Where are my cell mates?

I want to analyze the shit out of them


This is quickly followed with a slew of
On May 28 2014 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Holy mother of god I know who I'm voting for mayor
I also know who the scum is in my cell.

On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now

On May 28 2014 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm posting this just so everyone knows where I'm at right now
<eagle-American-flag-erection.gif>


On May 28 2014 08:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 08:08 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm so hard right now


What is with all you boys getting hard.

It's mafia. Not sex.

Also ritoky i give you 9/10 for the freedom messup.

We use our penises to scum hunt.

I've already caught thrawn and shaiopi with mine, you lack a penis and haven't caught anyone. Coincidence? I think not...


And you are so sure on them, aren't you?

Why? What is your evidence.
though i agree a bit with shaiopi. He seems to be wanting to disregard holyflare entirely.
And the tone of his posts throw me off.

I like hf. But that could be due to the cute kitty.

I may lack a penis, but I have women's intuition, and boobs and a vagina.

Sorry but way more powerful than your penis.

My evidence against thrawn is that he must be scum since ritoky and myself are both town

My evidence against Shaiopi is that he hates freedom.

Two ironclad cases and I'm just getting warmed up.


Ohhh.. Process of elimination.

Didn't realize he was in your cell.

I should probably look at that list.

Okay, so why is ritoky more town than thrawn? Has he even (thrawn) commented on anything yet?

And are you just basing that case on his mayor post?

Also, if you like ritoky for his post(if thats the reason why) what do you not like about hf?

George Washington himself personally told me ritoky was town. He said that we must rebel against King Thrawn the third.

King Thrawn has not commented on anything yet, he is crazy after all.


The problem with HF is that he included kittens, a sure sign of weakness. Also I may still want to policy lynch him after golden sun, I haven't decided on that yet.

+ Show Spoiler +
In all seriousness, I actually have a really good townread off of ritoky based on that post alone. It may change (I would be crushed if it had to) but that sort of entry into the thread is the antithesis of what I'd expect him to do as scum. If anyone has meta arguments against my gut (and George Washington), better tell me now.

This post is roughly an hour or so after the game has started. Thrawn hasn't posted at this point, and ritoky's only post at this point is his platform post.

The only reason why Meapak would act this way as town is if he had a rock solid conviction that ritoky was absolutely 100% town, going solely off his mayor platform post, so much so that no matter what thrawn posts, it wouldn't affect his read. This is absurd. There is no way anyone could have gotten such a strong read off 1 post.

And here is the clincher:
On May 28 2014 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On May 28 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:
Personally, I find it strange that holyflare has not commented at all on the strongest case against him as mayor to this point. It may just be that he has been floored by the light of freedom and cannot rebut the awesome truth of murrica.

Unlike shiaopi's claims of me being lazy and disappearing from the thread claim, I have no intentions of going quietly into the night. Those of us who fight for freedom day in and day out realize the hard work that it entails. We pull ourselves up by our boot straps, put on our pants one leg at a time, and work to rid the world of all that opposes the power of freedom. We know freedom isn't free. (please click for reference)

Furthermore the founding father of freedom, George Washington, has reminded me of 2 things: always trust in the power of freedom and murricans always are first. So to further my case for mayor, I propose that Cell A goes first. It also contains the most obvious scum currently in the case of Thrawn, who clearly hates freedom.

The founders themselves approve of this plan. Elect Ritoky so that Cell A can go first
<ron swanson flag.gif>

On May 28 2014 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 08:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:35 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 28 2014 07:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
ritoky and thrawn huh? One of you is scum and you're going down the hard way.

Also no to HF as mayor, I'd rather RNG mayor...


Dear god RNG already. Did we not learn our lesson in Golden Sun? Although I think that bringing up the bad idea of Rng makes you more town in that mafia would most likely want to secure mayor for themselves leaving it up to RNG sounds more towny thought process but a bad idea.

Meh, not really. Mayoral role is mostly useless in this setup, but thanks for playing!

So, we lynching Plammar?

No bbz we lynch thrawn after we elect ritoky.

On May 29 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky

I will be out for most of the day (PST) but I implore those who are on the fence about voting to at least elect someone who will put either cell A or cell B first.

That said you should obviously vote for freedom
<eagle / flag / america .gif>

By lynching into Cell A first, there are absolutely no repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about the other cells, he could bus as hard as he wants, it doesn't matter if he doesn't actually flip since no one can call him out for it. He equates voting Cell A with freedom, which is actually a non reason. He clearly wants cell A to go first, but offers no analysis of why this would be the best course of action. Instead, all he sees is get Cell A first, lynch thrawn, who cares about the rest.

This is indicative of scum mentality, as town would definitely consider how to order things even after they are gone, whereas scum can have their teammates figure out the leftovers.

I believe ritoky has shown good analysis (when it came to actually deciding total cell order), and Odin's first few posts look like he is trying to figure out ritoky. Meapak has done neither, his filter is full of fluff and he is trying to get away with it with a D1 mislynch.

##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh
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