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Hey guys, I'm the Vig. I've only got 3 days to play this game, so claiming now is the best option. I will use my 1 shot tonight on whoever i deem worthy of it. So far, that person is OO, for insulting my honor.
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Omni I like you, we can be friends, and our friendship will crush the awful OO/thrawn one. Whatdoyousay?
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On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum?
No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum?
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On April 15 2014 20:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum? No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum? I see no reason to think he is town.
That doesn't really answer the question.
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On April 15 2014 21:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 21:05 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 15 2014 20:19 Koshi wrote:On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum? No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum? I see no reason to think he is town. That doesn't really answer the question. Exactly. I am going to be very upset if this is a game in which I have to drag every piece of information out of you. You can clearly see I am considering Omni as scum, you say he is towniest town that towned and don't give a single reason. Who is at fault here? I am trying to scumhunt here. You are trying your best to be obstructive. Not pressuring Omni at all, calling everybody who thinks there is a slight possibility he is scum bad (as you don't think there is a reason to share your 100% townread on omni) and you are wasting our time. So. Can you give all your reads so far this game and give me an explanation for those reads? I want to go forward.
(1) Why would I pressure Omni, I think he is town?
(2) I haven't called anyone who thinks omni is scum bad. Why are you making up things that are clearly not true?
(3) You don't want to drag every piece of information out of me, but you admit to not answering my questions properly on purpose, and then try to say I'm the one being obstructive? What?
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On April 15 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote:
O Kochi I got you mixed up with some other dude.
Skan you realize you might be roleblocked ...
If I get rb'd then it's fine, the DT gets a check at least
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On April 15 2014 21:57 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote:On April 15 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote:
O Kochi I got you mixed up with some other dude.
Skan you realize you might be roleblocked ... There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK): 1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he draws a RB and real roles can get on. 2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information. 3) He is mafia and has to claim being RB which enables all town roles to do their stuff. I fixed that for you. Because that addendum was bullshit.
"I am going to be very upset if this is a game in which I have to drag every piece of information out of you."
How is that bullshit?
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Rejoice, I have woken up to so many pages, I'm gonna go through them and respond to everything.
On April 16 2014 03:56 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 18:56 Skanjab1s wrote:
Hey guys, I'm the Vig. I've only got 3 days to play this game, so claiming now is the best option. I will use my 1 shot tonight on whoever i deem worthy of it. So far, that person is OO, for insulting my honor. This is tweek right?
Yes!
On April 16 2014 05:56 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 18:56 Skanjab1s wrote:
Hey guys, I'm the Vig. I've only got 3 days to play this game, so claiming now is the best option. I will use my 1 shot tonight on whoever i deem worthy of it. So far, that person is OO, for insulting my honor. Skanjab has said little of value, but his roleclaim is an important milestone in this game. Firstly, I think his roleclaim is genuine. Mafia claiming this early is an insane risk. The potential benefits of claiming vig as mafia are far outweighed by the cost of losing 1/3 of their team. From what I know of skanjab, he's not the type of player to take huge risks like this as mafia, where other people are directly dependent on his survival. I'm going to take this claim at face value and assume for the time being that it is genuine. All that being said, I think this vig claim is a terrible play from Skanjab. Not only did he claim to be one of a handful of blue roles we have, he also wants to shoot immediately and has already stated a potential target. So, @Skanjab: Please keep your intended target to yourself. Why did you think claiming was a good idea? How do you intend to proceed throughout the day? We need to hear more from you and you need to start actively scumhunting so you can choose the best possible target.
I will keep my target to myself, don't worry. I'm going to carry on scumhunting (more actively as of now) and just proceed as usual. I always find the beginnings of days hard to actually contribute to, now that we've got lots of pages of stuff I'll be better.
FirmTofu, just out of curiosity, do you play on omgus? How many games have you played with me?
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On April 16 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
No. He made a huge post that doesn't contribute anything. He didn't say a single thing that is relevant to the lynch. It's even worse than no scumreads, there are no reads of any kind. He argued his points without giving any indication that he was forming reads based off of the things he was arguing against.
I agree with this, the entire post has nothing that's actually related to scumhunting in any way. Voting mderg.
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Why are you so against his lynch Koshi?
You're throwing out other random names and saying 'hey, lynch this guy instead, dont kill mderg!" when mderg hasn't done anything that I can see that should make you so sure of his towniness.
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I took a shower you moron. I can't be at my computer 24/7.
Talking about nothing to do with scumhunting, and focusing on unimportant things while still making a huge post to feign contribution is scummy. Thats why a scum mderg would do that.
You didn't answer my question at all, by the way, you've just been bitching for no reason. Saying "because all of you have done nothing" isn't a reason to be hard-defending mderg so badly, and stopping any attempts to pressure from happening.
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Calm down sweetcheeks, I didn't mean it.
I'm totally fine with killing kush too, apart from the weird 'you two are town' thing, most of his questions just have very little point, and the answers to them wouldn't help him figure out the alignments of anyone, things like this:
On April 15 2014 21:28 kushm4sta wrote:
K I read the newest stuff.
Inb4 getript tries to ban skanjab.
Also Kochi you are talking alot without content. Does that not mean you are scum by your own self meta?
On April 15 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Koshi, true or false?
Skans claim almost never is coming from scum.
On April 16 2014 03:37 kushm4sta wrote:
well ive never seen you like this koshi. all energetic and assertive and stuff <3 what does it mean
These questions just seem to be there to make it look like he's scumhunting, but really, none of these things would actually help him get a better read on anybody. He also seems to be tunneling Koshi pretty hard, and directing all of his questions to koshi, I'm not sure what to make of that for now.
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Actually yeah, I'm voting for kush, I like his lynch over mderg
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On April 16 2014 22:19 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 18:56 Skanjab1s wrote:
Hey guys, I'm the Vig. I've only got 3 days to play this game, so claiming now is the best option. I will use my 1 shot tonight on whoever i deem worthy of it. So far, that person is OO, for insulting my honor. I already said that I can´t see any way that town could get anything out of this. It´s very dangerous for scum to do this, though. So this gives skanjab some town points. Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum? No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum? (1) I don´t think you ever gave a reason for this. Basing your read on nothing seems scummy to me.Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 19:16 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 16 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
No. He made a huge post that doesn't contribute anything. He didn't say a single thing that is relevant to the lynch. It's even worse than no scumreads, there are no reads of any kind. He argued his points without giving any indication that he was forming reads based off of the things he was arguing against.
I agree with this, the entire post has nothing that's actually related to scumhunting in any way. Voting mderg.
(2) That´s funny, since you have more posts than me but until that post I can´t see any scumhunting from you at all. Still not a single read based on your own reasoning.
Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 19:20 Skanjab1s wrote:
Why are you so against his lynch Koshi?
You're throwing out other random names and saying 'hey, lynch this guy instead, dont kill mderg!" when mderg hasn't done anything that I can see that should make you so sure of his towniness. (3) Isn´t it the accuser who has to bring in the proofs? Yeah, I didn´t do much until now but you´re just going with thrawn without giving anything yourself.Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 20:06 Skanjab1s wrote:Calm down sweetcheeks, I didn't mean it. I'm totally fine with killing kush too, apart from the weird 'you two are town' thing, most of his questions just have very little point, and the answers to them wouldn't help him figure out the alignments of anyone, things like this: On April 15 2014 21:28 kushm4sta wrote:
K I read the newest stuff.
Inb4 getript tries to ban skanjab.
Also Kochi you are talking alot without content. Does that not mean you are scum by your own self meta? On April 15 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Koshi, true or false?
Skans claim almost never is coming from scum. On April 16 2014 03:37 kushm4sta wrote:
well ive never seen you like this koshi. all energetic and assertive and stuff <3 what does it mean
These questions just seem to be there to make it look like he's scumhunting, but really, none of these things would actually help him get a better read on anybody. He also seems to be tunneling Koshi pretty hard, and directing all of his questions to koshi, I'm not sure what to make of that for now.
(4)To me the bold part sounds like you don´t even care who gets lynched.(5)Also how can you be sure that the answers to his questions wouldn´t help him figure out any alignments. Maybe he can figure out alignments based on that. Only way you can be sure that he can´t figure out any alignments is if you´re scum yourself.
Right now I think you´re scum. The only thing that might speak against that is the vig claim. But even that could just be a ballsy scum move.
Well, this is a lovely OMGUS.
(1) I didn't give a reason for it, and I'm not going to, but that doesn't mean I don't have a reason for it.
(2) I have been scumhunting though, not just posting paragraphs complaining about 1-liners and discussing stuff that has no relevance to actually finding scum. I have given reads too. So that whole thing is just a blatant lie.
(3) I have brought in proofs though. I gave my reasons for thinking you are scum. Koshi on the other hand is hard-defending you when there is no reason why he should think you are that town.
(4) There is more than 1 scum. Me thinking that kush is scum also doesn't mean I don't care about the lynch, obviously.
(5) Read the questions please. The answers to those questions can not help him figure out the alignment of a person in any way. And 'the only way I can be sure is if im scum?" When the answer to those questions cannot be alignment indicative, how would me knowing this make me scum? That's just ridiculous.
You're reaching really hard with these points on me. Half of them are lies and the other half don't even make sense.
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I did give an explanation omni, on both mderg and kush. I think mderg is more likely scum after his attack on me, his reasoning was just wrong, and he just called me scum for terrible reasons.
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EBWOP: My vote on mderg was more of a pressure thing though, hence the few reasons.
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On April 16 2014 22:51 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 22:32 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 16 2014 22:19 mderg wrote:On April 15 2014 18:56 Skanjab1s wrote:
Hey guys, I'm the Vig. I've only got 3 days to play this game, so claiming now is the best option. I will use my 1 shot tonight on whoever i deem worthy of it. So far, that person is OO, for insulting my honor. I already said that I can´t see any way that town could get anything out of this. It´s very dangerous for scum to do this, though. So this gives skanjab some town points. On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum? No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum? (1) I don´t think you ever gave a reason for this. Basing your read on nothing seems scummy to me.On April 16 2014 19:16 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 16 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
No. He made a huge post that doesn't contribute anything. He didn't say a single thing that is relevant to the lynch. It's even worse than no scumreads, there are no reads of any kind. He argued his points without giving any indication that he was forming reads based off of the things he was arguing against.
I agree with this, the entire post has nothing that's actually related to scumhunting in any way. Voting mderg.
(2) That´s funny, since you have more posts than me but until that post I can´t see any scumhunting from you at all. Still not a single read based on your own reasoning.
On April 16 2014 19:20 Skanjab1s wrote:
Why are you so against his lynch Koshi?
You're throwing out other random names and saying 'hey, lynch this guy instead, dont kill mderg!" when mderg hasn't done anything that I can see that should make you so sure of his towniness. (3) Isn´t it the accuser who has to bring in the proofs? Yeah, I didn´t do much until now but you´re just going with thrawn without giving anything yourself.On April 16 2014 20:06 Skanjab1s wrote:Calm down sweetcheeks, I didn't mean it. I'm totally fine with killing kush too, apart from the weird 'you two are town' thing, most of his questions just have very little point, and the answers to them wouldn't help him figure out the alignments of anyone, things like this: On April 15 2014 21:28 kushm4sta wrote:
K I read the newest stuff.
Inb4 getript tries to ban skanjab.
Also Kochi you are talking alot without content. Does that not mean you are scum by your own self meta? On April 15 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Koshi, true or false?
Skans claim almost never is coming from scum. On April 16 2014 03:37 kushm4sta wrote:
well ive never seen you like this koshi. all energetic and assertive and stuff <3 what does it mean
These questions just seem to be there to make it look like he's scumhunting, but really, none of these things would actually help him get a better read on anybody. He also seems to be tunneling Koshi pretty hard, and directing all of his questions to koshi, I'm not sure what to make of that for now.
(4)To me the bold part sounds like you don´t even care who gets lynched.(5)Also how can you be sure that the answers to his questions wouldn´t help him figure out any alignments. Maybe he can figure out alignments based on that. Only way you can be sure that he can´t figure out any alignments is if you´re scum yourself.
Right now I think you´re scum. The only thing that might speak against that is the vig claim. But even that could just be a ballsy scum move. Well, this is a lovely OMGUS. (1) I didn't give a reason for it, and I'm not going to, but that doesn't mean I don't have a reason for it. (2) I have been scumhunting though, not just posting paragraphs complaining about 1-liners and discussing stuff that has no relevance to actually finding scum. I have given reads too. So that whole thing is just a blatant lie. (3) I have brought in proofs though. I gave my reasons for thinking you are scum. Koshi on the other hand is hard-defending you when there is no reason why he should think you are that town. (4) There is more than 1 scum. Me thinking that kush is scum also doesn't mean I don't care about the lynch, obviously. (5) Read the questions please. The answers to those questions can not help him figure out the alignment of a person in any way. And 'the only way I can be sure is if im scum?" When the answer to those questions cannot be alignment indicative, how would me knowing this make me scum? That's just ridiculous. You're reaching really hard with these points on me. Half of them are lies and the other half don't even make sense. (1) Why are you not going to? I can´t trust a read, if there´s no reason given for it. (2) at the time of the quoted post your only read was omni and you didn´t give any reason for that read. (3) where did you bring proofs in? I didn´t see any. (4) It´s the tone that makes me think that, not that you think kush is scum. (5) I read those questions on the first one I agree with you but the answers to questions 2 and 3 could maybe support a read. I don´t think the questions were good but saying they cannot help in any way is something I don´t agree with. Maybe some of my points don´t make sense to everyone but NONE of them are lies.
(1) I don't wanna.
(2) No, that's incorrect. I had given a read on you, omni and kush.
(3) In the post where I said that I agreed that your opening paragraph post was scummy, due to you not scumhunting but instead feigning contribution by making a huge post about irrelevant things.
I think I missed something, Omni, why is thrawn scum?
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On April 16 2014 23:30 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 23:19 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 16 2014 22:51 mderg wrote:On April 16 2014 22:32 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 16 2014 22:19 mderg wrote:On April 15 2014 18:56 Skanjab1s wrote:
Hey guys, I'm the Vig. I've only got 3 days to play this game, so claiming now is the best option. I will use my 1 shot tonight on whoever i deem worthy of it. So far, that person is OO, for insulting my honor. I already said that I can´t see any way that town could get anything out of this. It´s very dangerous for scum to do this, though. So this gives skanjab some town points. On April 15 2014 20:15 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 15 2014 19:56 Koshi wrote:
You don't think he is scum? No, I don't, he's a townie through and through. Do you think he's scum? (1) I don´t think you ever gave a reason for this. Basing your read on nothing seems scummy to me.On April 16 2014 19:16 Skanjab1s wrote:On April 16 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
No. He made a huge post that doesn't contribute anything. He didn't say a single thing that is relevant to the lynch. It's even worse than no scumreads, there are no reads of any kind. He argued his points without giving any indication that he was forming reads based off of the things he was arguing against.
I agree with this, the entire post has nothing that's actually related to scumhunting in any way. Voting mderg.
(2) That´s funny, since you have more posts than me but until that post I can´t see any scumhunting from you at all. Still not a single read based on your own reasoning.
On April 16 2014 19:20 Skanjab1s wrote:
Why are you so against his lynch Koshi?
You're throwing out other random names and saying 'hey, lynch this guy instead, dont kill mderg!" when mderg hasn't done anything that I can see that should make you so sure of his towniness. (3) Isn´t it the accuser who has to bring in the proofs? Yeah, I didn´t do much until now but you´re just going with thrawn without giving anything yourself.On April 16 2014 20:06 Skanjab1s wrote:Calm down sweetcheeks, I didn't mean it. I'm totally fine with killing kush too, apart from the weird 'you two are town' thing, most of his questions just have very little point, and the answers to them wouldn't help him figure out the alignments of anyone, things like this: On April 15 2014 21:28 kushm4sta wrote:
K I read the newest stuff.
Inb4 getript tries to ban skanjab.
Also Kochi you are talking alot without content. Does that not mean you are scum by your own self meta? On April 15 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote:
Koshi, true or false?
Skans claim almost never is coming from scum. On April 16 2014 03:37 kushm4sta wrote:
well ive never seen you like this koshi. all energetic and assertive and stuff <3 what does it mean
These questions just seem to be there to make it look like he's scumhunting, but really, none of these things would actually help him get a better read on anybody. He also seems to be tunneling Koshi pretty hard, and directing all of his questions to koshi, I'm not sure what to make of that for now.
(4)To me the bold part sounds like you don´t even care who gets lynched.(5)Also how can you be sure that the answers to his questions wouldn´t help him figure out any alignments. Maybe he can figure out alignments based on that. Only way you can be sure that he can´t figure out any alignments is if you´re scum yourself.
Right now I think you´re scum. The only thing that might speak against that is the vig claim. But even that could just be a ballsy scum move. Well, this is a lovely OMGUS. (1) I didn't give a reason for it, and I'm not going to, but that doesn't mean I don't have a reason for it. (2) I have been scumhunting though, not just posting paragraphs complaining about 1-liners and discussing stuff that has no relevance to actually finding scum. I have given reads too. So that whole thing is just a blatant lie. (3) I have brought in proofs though. I gave my reasons for thinking you are scum. Koshi on the other hand is hard-defending you when there is no reason why he should think you are that town. (4) There is more than 1 scum. Me thinking that kush is scum also doesn't mean I don't care about the lynch, obviously. (5) Read the questions please. The answers to those questions can not help him figure out the alignment of a person in any way. And 'the only way I can be sure is if im scum?" When the answer to those questions cannot be alignment indicative, how would me knowing this make me scum? That's just ridiculous. You're reaching really hard with these points on me. Half of them are lies and the other half don't even make sense. (1) Why are you not going to? I can´t trust a read, if there´s no reason given for it. (2) at the time of the quoted post your only read was omni and you didn´t give any reason for that read. (3) where did you bring proofs in? I didn´t see any. (4) It´s the tone that makes me think that, not that you think kush is scum. (5) I read those questions on the first one I agree with you but the answers to questions 2 and 3 could maybe support a read. I don´t think the questions were good but saying they cannot help in any way is something I don´t agree with. Maybe some of my points don´t make sense to everyone but NONE of them are lies. (1) I don't wanna. (2) No, that's incorrect. I had given a read on you, omni and kush. (3) In the post where I said that I agreed that your opening paragraph post was scummy, due to you not scumhunting but instead feigning contribution by making a huge post about irrelevant things. I think I missed something, Omni, why is thrawn scum? (1) So you´re purposefully withholding information? (2) Before you made the post I quoted you had only given a read on omni. Then you based the read on me on the fact that I haven´t done active scumhunting even though you also didn´t actively hunt scum before that (3) It wasn´t you who brought in the "proofs", it was thrawn. You only rephrased what he said. More importantly those aren´t proofs because not doing anything particularly townie in the first 24 hours is not proof of being scum.
(1) Yes
(2) At the time of your post, I had given reads on omni, you, and kush, go back and read.
(3) Thats not the just of the points on you. Agreeing with someone's points and elaborating is 'proofs'.
Koshi: No, I'm not
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Yeah that^ I don't know why Koshi is overreacting so much when OTW was just accounting for both possibilities. I think he misinterpreted his post.
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