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Balla24
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I would probably put 4 -> 5 -> 3 -> 1 -> 2 (havent put much thought into it which is the strongest yet just first impressions) | ||
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On April 02 2014 03:50 Alakaslam wrote: I'm coo with that balla Why are you ok with that? It makes sense? you simply like the order or what? | ||
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On April 02 2014 04:08 prplhz wrote: i think it would be a great idea if people mainly focused on their own cell. that doesn't mean that you shouldn't tell the thread if you have reads on other people but if you are unfocused it makes very good sense to look at your own cell simply because you have a 50/50 chance there. That's silly. You still have to vote to lynch within the other cells... | ||
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What are you agreeing with? There's plenty of stuff in there. Mayors don't matter? Cell4 should go first? Unreadable player cell first? Is there even a cell here that you consider full of "unreadable players"? Same to you @prplhz. | ||
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On April 02 2014 04:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: So my very first impression: If I wasn't in this group (let's just say, Group 6), my first-guess order would be 3 -> 4 -> 2 -> 5 -> 1. I think I'll have an easier time with reading the people in the last two groups - I've played with them more recently, or they're just more straightforward overall. Especially rayn, koshi and gum. As a member of group 3 I still like that order because I don't have to play for a long time, although Coag's not too unpredictable, kush you can usually see once you wade past all the bullshit, and Palmar... I'll think of something. Group 2 is my neutral people - Holyflare is the only one I've had experience with. Group 4 really depends on how erratic Slam becomes over the course of the game. How can the first sentence be justified if you want to be taken out of the game first as shown in the second sentence? | ||
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Unreadable means you can't properly discern their alignment, therefore lynching groups with "unreadable" people in it means we have less chance of hitting mafia, so why would we want them to go first. That's silly, we'll just be behind early if we don't get lucky. For the record, I think my group is very READABLE, and I think it will be easy to catch the mafia in my group therefore we should go first but I think it's stupid that you guys want us to go first if we are "unreadable". | ||
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On April 02 2014 04:35 prplhz wrote: no, the players in your group are the players i don't think we will benefit a lot from having around a lot. none of you are famous and reliable scum slayers and you seem kind of scummy. we just give it our best shot and then that's it. lynching into group rayn would be silly because rayn looks more and more and he's also a reliable scum hunter that we'll want to have around for more than 48 hours. same with groups 1,2,3,5 Sure, this makes more sense than wanting us to go first because we are "unreadable" and lynchbait. | ||
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On April 02 2014 04:47 mderg wrote: I hate things like the bolded part, just doesn´t add anything. Everybody claims to be town. The analysis on yourself is interesting, I think it is very difficult to read peope who know their "town/scum features" Neither does your post. What exactly is the point of it? Are you calling sentinel scum because he is "claiming town"? | ||
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On April 02 2014 04:54 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Actually this "which group to lynch first" is really stupid for the next 40 hours. Townie points for the person who first tells why. ~rayn It's stupid but people giving reasoning for it is not useless. I think it was a decent starting point. I'd like to move on though since it really doesn't matter till we see who is scummy/not who is active/not then we can decide based on that. | ||
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We can talk about plenty. How mderg's posts so far have been useless and scummy maybe? On April 02 2014 04:24 mderg wrote: Everything but Cell 4 going first, since I don´t know that much about the players in this game. This also answers the second question... I don´t know enough about the players to call any of them unreadable but I hope this changes as day1 progresses. Why did you "more or less agree" if you aren't going to say what you disagree with to start with? | ||
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On April 02 2014 05:07 raynpelikonoshi wrote: I just made a post about it. Or asked other people about it. You lynch the groups where you know mafia is and make the order based on reads after ~40 hours or so. If there are similar groups / a lot of unsureness you first pick the groups where there are players who are most likely not paying attention later on in the game (for example kush is never going to reread the thread, ever). But who gets to be the mayor does not matter. If you can explain to me why does it matter go ahead. ~rayn Exactly, and it should be fairly easy to decide as a group what the group order should be, and if the mayor doesn't do that then he dies. | ||
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@Geript Can you expand on anything else about prplhz, do you think he's scum for that singular thing or is there anything else that makes you think he's scummy (not "he's opposing my mayor campaign" either)? | ||
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On April 02 2014 06:22 getmoript wrote: Specifically, this is why I think Rayn is scum. I'm clearly town here. Cav is clearly town here. Rayn not finding prplhz's stance odd and asking "Why does prplhz's stance mean anything" is a really bad question from him. He's played a number of PYPs etc and he's seen a number of very odd stances but I can't think of a single game where I've ever seen town come out and say, "Maybe this mechanic doesn't matter." It's not a stance where prplhz is flat out saying something like I did in PYPLOL, "The bans don't matter and I don't care about them. I'd rather use this time to find scum." It's not like the stance that Rayn took in that game either where, "Bans 100% matter and we should 100% ban out GF/Framer type roles." The fact that prplhz doesn't take a hard stance on either end is SUPER ODD. Rayn not helping to pressure prplhz more because of that is really questionable and Rayn 100% loves to chainsaw onto town to protect his scumbuddies. To explain more: VE has a meta read on prplhz which is "If he brings up policy d1 he is scum." All he did early on was policy about random stuff hydras etc. Plus he had that exceptionally weird "maybe the mayor doens't matter stance." I'm going to put the stamp of approval 100% as confirmed scum on prplhz. It literally doesn't make any sense. Rayn backing up prplhz stance saying, "I don't think the mayor matters either" isn't the questionable thing to me. That's a normal stance to take. It's specifcally the "MAYBE the mayor doens't matter." Adding in maybe there is ridiculously odd and Rayn not reading it that way especially when prplhz finishes the post saying that he cares about the order of the lynches WHICH IS WHAT THE MAYOR DECIDES is super weird. I have a really hard time thinking any towny could ever post that. So Rayn trying to pressure me here instead of prplhz is super suspect. ~g Why didn't you ask prplhz about it instead of just going ham on it right away? To me it seems pretty obvious what prplhz was saying and I think he WAS taking a stance. But even so, how does him adding the "maybe" qualifier make him scum (why does not taking a stance make him scum)? Townies are unsure all the time, even about setup talk. You're arguing 2 things here from what I can tell 1) Prplhz is scum because he's not taking a stance 2) Prplhz is scum because mayor DOES matter and I disagree with both of them. | ||
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On April 02 2014 06:37 getmoript wrote: Honestly, is this just your "off" town game or are you scum here? Like I really can't see you having read prplhz's filter and think he's town here. Like you haven't bothered to explain even a soft townread on him and not in any way trusting my reads here is really suspect of you. I really can't wrap my head around it. Where did I call him town or scum? Also your VE meta read of him is BS because prplhz talked about setup early a bit as town in default suspicions, plus this is a new setup for everybody so obviously people are going to want to talk about that. Why didn't you answer my questions and also do you actually have knowledge of my meta or are are you just randomly saying stuff, what do you mean by my "off" town game? | ||
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On April 02 2014 11:08 Tehpoofter wrote: I will not be commenting on what I think you or mderg's alignment is until its day 2's lynch day. I'm looking for scum elsewhere. This is really stupid, just don't tunnel on your cell and play like a normal game just w/ the knowledge of 1 mafia per cell. | ||
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