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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 15:18:15
March 21 2014 15:17 GMT
#7
/in

It's about time town wins the belt.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2014 16:03 GMT
#11
On March 22 2014 00:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Fill the game up quickly so I can host my game guys!

Goes faster if you in and then claim scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2014 16:20 GMT
#14
Let's not talk anything at all so noone is better than anyone on D1.
Then just lynch Holyflare so no more belt for him.

Start playing on N1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2014 16:52 GMT
#17
Let's fill this quick so marv doesn't get to play.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 21 2014 17:38 GMT
#22
kiterayn is heavy. townheavy.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 24 2014 02:05 GMT
#32
On March 24 2014 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 00:11 iamperfection wrote:

Breaking the rules
If you intentionally go out of your way to ruin the game or get yourself mod killed on purpose i will seek to get you banned for as long as possible. IF you have a specific problem with something pm me.

Please take note of this. 3 spots left.

also could use another co host. One that may be willing do do a deadline post possibly.

You should also ban townie seals.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2014 20:06 GMT
#50
On March 26 2014 05:05 Palmar wrote:
Policy lynching anyone with less than 9 pages of filter day 1, regardless of my alignment.

Well you can just say "lynch gumshoe".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2014 23:01 GMT
#57
Town wins this belt.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2014 23:03 GMT
#60
Definitely not if you do not have 9 pages of filter on D1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2014 23:07 GMT
#62
On March 26 2014 08:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 08:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Definitely not if you do not have 9 pages of filter on D1.

Do you want me to start counting?

no.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2014 23:13 GMT
#66
On March 26 2014 08:09 Palmar wrote:
rayn give me some game that isn't foundation where you rolled scum please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/441979-vengeful-mini-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/430498-world-heavyweight-championship-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/433955-witchcraft-mini-mafia-ii?user=raynpelikoneet
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/423071-tl-mafia-lxii-tl-noir?user=raynpelikoneet
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/432504-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/423047-got-mafia-lords-and-liars?user=raynpelikoneet

6 last scumgames.

Why didn't you bother to check the database yourself?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2014 23:15 GMT
#69
On March 26 2014 08:13 Palmar wrote:
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On March 26 2014 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
witchcraft 2

My idea kinda died anyway.

I just remembered that rayn also did a townclaim at the beginning of titanic, and that he didn't really in foundation, but reading back I found that he opened with that unvoting plan in default suspicion, so whatever.

I sometimes claim town as town, sometimes i claim town as scum. Sometimes i don't as either alignment.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2014 23:22 GMT
#74
On March 26 2014 08:19 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:13 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
witchcraft 2

My idea kinda died anyway.

I just remembered that rayn also did a townclaim at the beginning of titanic, and that he didn't really in foundation, but reading back I found that he opened with that unvoting plan in default suspicion, so whatever.

I sometimes claim town as town, sometimes i claim town as scum. Sometimes i don't as either alignment.

But do you claim scum?

Cause that is what takes real balls.

No i don't. I consider that as playing against my wincon regardless of my affiliation unless there is a very specific situation.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2014 23:27 GMT
#75
gumshoe why Robik over anyone else?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 25 2014 23:32 GMT
#81
On March 26 2014 08:29 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 08:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe why Robik over anyone else?

Do you think you will get an answer from gumshoe that has any chance of moving your read on him forward? If so, what kind of an answer would make you lean one way or the other?

Over-explained answer could be indicative of scumshoe. He tried to over-explain shit last game (geript's PYP) as mafia and it backpedalled quite hard. He also knows i am a tunnely guy and he also knows my questions have motive behind them so therefore he knows he must answer to me.

Joke is a joke, but gumshoe getting possibly scared as scum was worth a try.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 00:00 GMT
#88
On March 26 2014 08:58 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 08:53 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:41 gumshoe wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:38 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe why Robik over anyone else?

Do you think you will get an answer from gumshoe that has any chance of moving your read on him forward? If so, what kind of an answer would make you lean one way or the other?

Over-explained answer could be indicative of scumshoe. He tried to over-explain shit last game (geript's PYP) as mafia and it backpedalled quite hard. He also knows i am a tunnely guy and he also knows my questions have motive behind them so therefore he knows he must answer to me.

Joke is a joke, but gumshoe getting possibly scared as scum was worth a try.

There is no reason for him not to answer you as any alignment, but I guess it is actually reasonable to think there is a small chance of panic and overexplanation.


Scum can be reasonable as well : P and this game is pretty stacked, mistakes this early on are not to be expected. I'm curious Palmer, what kind of reaction were you looking for out of Rayn, knowing farily well hed have an easy time answering your question as either alignment?

If rayn does not have an explanation to his question it makes the question pointless and thus rayn more likely to be mafia.


But it is likely that a response will come easily, all you do if Rayns scum is strengthen his position in thread after an easy question, and I dont bilieve you honestly couldnt come with your own explanation for why Rayn asked his question of me.

Therefore I find your question not only pointless, but harmful / :

wait what?
Asking questions is scummy because it makes mafia gain town credit?
What kinda shitlogic is this?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 00:05 GMT
#90
gumshoe i am interested. Do you think Palmar is mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 00:07 GMT
#92
I'll reword the question:
Do you think he is scummy because;
1) he is asking useless question, or
2) he took my answer at face value?

In my opinion these are different things and you have now said both of them.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 00:08 GMT
#93
On March 26 2014 09:06 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 09:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:58 gumshoe wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:53 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:41 gumshoe wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:38 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe why Robik over anyone else?

Do you think you will get an answer from gumshoe that has any chance of moving your read on him forward? If so, what kind of an answer would make you lean one way or the other?

Over-explained answer could be indicative of scumshoe. He tried to over-explain shit last game (geript's PYP) as mafia and it backpedalled quite hard. He also knows i am a tunnely guy and he also knows my questions have motive behind them so therefore he knows he must answer to me.

Joke is a joke, but gumshoe getting possibly scared as scum was worth a try.

There is no reason for him not to answer you as any alignment, but I guess it is actually reasonable to think there is a small chance of panic and overexplanation.


Scum can be reasonable as well : P and this game is pretty stacked, mistakes this early on are not to be expected. I'm curious Palmer, what kind of reaction were you looking for out of Rayn, knowing farily well hed have an easy time answering your question as either alignment?

If rayn does not have an explanation to his question it makes the question pointless and thus rayn more likely to be mafia.


But it is likely that a response will come easily, all you do if Rayns scum is strengthen his position in thread after an easy question, and I dont bilieve you honestly couldnt come with your own explanation for why Rayn asked his question of me.

Therefore I find your question not only pointless, but harmful / :

wait what?
Asking questions is scummy because it makes mafia gain town credit?
What kinda shitlogic is this?


MEGA LOGIC Im saying his question was dumb, which is funny because he accused you of much the same, and the only outcome of that question was that you would answer it and come off looking strong, regardless of your alignment.

Whereas your question was directed at someone (me) known to crack under pressure as scum and who had done so in a game you and palmer had just played. That question was perfectly fine.

I am pretty sure Palmar did not accuse me of anything.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 00:33 GMT
#109
On March 26 2014 09:11 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 09:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe i am interested. Do you think Palmar is mafia?


I do not for a second think he could not come up with his own valid reasoning for your question twoards me and I dont see how he could imagine you in any world giving something up in response. As if when your scum you dont bother with reasons, whereas the opposite is true, your far more careful as red and he should know that.

The outcome of the question is inevitable, you look capable, he gives ground, it was unlikely to go any other way(and I dont see what other path he could have honestly imagined) and therefore it was pointless. Hes either fienting in an effort to kick start or hes scum trying to fit in. One thing for sure though, hes not bieng genuine atm.

See gumshoe here is my problem. I am a player who asks questions, obviously. When i ask questions, assuming i am not questioning something i do not understand, there are expected answers:
1) scummy type of answer, or townie type of answer, or both
2) answer i did not expect which leads to further investigation

Now i don't always expect people to understand why i do ask questions i do in the first place. That would defeat the purpose of my play in total. If you can tell what my question is going to achieve you know (as mafia) how you should be answering it. Right?

So, my question to you is:
I don't understand why do you assume Palmar should assume what i am thinking and why i ask what i do. How do you suggest town!Palmar should read me if he is not "allowed" to figure out my motives behind my posts? Or do you think it's reasonable to assume Palmar should have realized what i was after? Did you know what i expected town!gumshoe to answer when i asked you my question?
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