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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 03 2013 21:11 GMT
#9
/in
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 21:37:13
October 03 2013 21:35 GMT
#15
Will we be allowed to concede day one?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 02:46:37
October 04 2013 02:46 GMT
#23
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 14 2013 16:17 GMT
#168
I think it would be even better if he was an actual noob account attempting to appear pro.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 15 2013 19:33 GMT
#237
On October 16 2013 02:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
I-be-Pro is totally bh.

Guess I have to shoot him day one
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 02:17:25
October 16 2013 02:17 GMT
#259
Can you guarantee me a spot in Hufflepuff?
Or Griffindor
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 16 2013 20:16 GMT
#305
Grack is town pretty obvious so far
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 16 2013 20:28 GMT
#310
On October 17 2013 05:20 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 05:16 Pandain wrote:
Grack is town pretty obvious so far

How is that pretty obvious?

What do you think of Grack?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 04:36 GMT
#508
From what has resulted so far there are some very good observations that can be made.
  • Grack is playing like his playstyle in Thug Life, although it isn't conclusive it reads to me he is town.

  • Griffindor is me, Vayne, justanothertownie, Cephiro, Stutters695, and Rayne/Koshi.

  • I am not going to be participating in the pick-up line contest as I am suspicious of three lurkers in my house and then Vayne has always been hard for me.

  • Grackaroni, however, you know you are town and you have good players in your house. Why do you not try to get the item and then convince what is most likely a majority of townies to use it in a town aspect. .


  • StorrZerg pushes someone but then never follows up, has your read changed Storr? I actually don't think this is that scummy but it is interesting.





On October 17 2013 08:35 Mattchew wrote:
a lot of soft accusations being thrown at Skanjab1s

and dont we always have to lynch the self aware miller or is that some other weird role?

On October 17 2013 10:58 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 10:51 yamato77 wrote:
matt, what do you think about Moc?

nothing, other than that he claimed miller in the first post and that was either really bold play as mafia or smart play as town

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On October 17 2013 10:54 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 17 2013 10:52 Mattchew wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:07 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:41 Holyflare wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:34 I-be-Pro wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:27 supersoft wrote:
you wanna follow up on my post about towns best interest?
Do you still think that phrasing gives you anything about my alignment?

I don't think it's a good idea. If you're keeping the vast majority in here and talk about weather in the QT that's fine with me and I think it is a lot better than having everyone spam it up in here.

Idk. I don't believe people who say they don't slip like that, I also don't believe you have to have slipped there at all. I do believe that I apparently make it look like single phrases that I find odd for whatever reason are huge things for me. I just like pointing it out and hearing opinions about it unless a shitton of that stuff masses together. To big of chance to just be wrong on it otherwise.


Pointing it out without waiting for him to do it again later or changing defeats the object of it doesn't it? It's totally baseless, especially if he isn't a native english speaker.

On a different topic let me reiterate:

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 17 2013 06:52 Holyflare wrote:
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On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote:
Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia.

Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house.
Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo.



Can we assume so though? It is randomly distributed after all. We had something similar in our QT. Storrzerg asked pretty much the same thing.

Then there was Grack, he said he would not be participating in the pick up line event unless we had some spare, never knew google was a hard concept for some. What would be the point in not participating at this point as these items seem to be game changing, does he not want to win?




What would be people's motive (Grack) to not participate in an event? These items seem to be useful for finding scum and he implied that he didn't care which house they went to in the QT. Seeing as scum is randomly distributed it would be detrimental to go to another house that you don't know how many scum are in it. Why does he not care?

I don't know how many scum are in my house either lol.

i didnt like this "lol", i thought it looked pretty weak

wat.

saying lol at the end of a sentence is what you do when your texting a girl and you're nervous she wont understand what you're saying is a joke, aka weakness


On October 17 2013 10:59 Mattchew wrote:
i want to change my use of "smart" to "correct"


Suspicious weak justification, and if it was in his opinion correct play why would we lynch him.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 06:35 GMT
#515
The problem with lurkers is even if they have a good reason to lurk more often then not town players try to overcome their being disadvantaged from lurking while scum players will embrace it and act dumb. I have played for instance with the two players in my house Cephiro and Stutters and they both purposely lurked in Noir.

The fact they could be asleep is also offset by the fact that Cephiro recently made a long post that clearly showed thought yet put off contributing in thread. Cephiro would you like to explain that?

I have a town read on Grack because he is embracing his role but is still making some good points, but he is making a really weird point about not contributing which is really nonsensical to me. There could be a scum motivation to it, such as if his house is only him and therefore he doesn't want to help contribute, or there is the more likely instance that he simply hasn't thought it through. I want to eliminate the possibilities.



Skanjab I have a town read on and I don't have a good read on Toad yet.

Was your intent with this post to pressure me or are you serious; you've been looking for flaws where there really aren't any and it's contradicting with what I think you would be doing in looking for actually suspicious people. You don't think StorrZerg, being an esports mafia veteran taking a back seat in his first game of forum mafia is suspicious?

You are putting assumptions about what I'm doing without any real logic, and I don't see any town reason.
On October 17 2013 15:13 Holyflare wrote:
What I really actually want to know Pandain is why the summary but leave out the entire starting argument? What did you glean from Skanjab1s replies to Toads pressure. Deflecting?


If you say this, is any response really going to help you?

You say I left so much out, do you really expect me to put everything?

You set higher standards for me then what is expected and I am interested in why.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 06:43 GMT
#516
Grack is not certain town but probably town.

He posted a lot early on and made jokes. I haven't seen scum do that early on though I acknowledge it could happen. Usually town are the very first ones to post, and him making jokes amplifies my town reads.

He also made very weak arguments in Thug Life which is why I thought he was scum, but it ended up being wrong.

On October 17 2013 06:48 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 06:40 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 06:38 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 17 2013 06:26 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.

Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing

The mocking of the hufflepuffs will not stand. This man has the blood of the Ravenclaws, for too long they have mocked us. We will have our revenge.

##Vote: Sn0_Man


On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##vote: Skanjab1s

Bring it on slytherin scum


you guys just write it down here or are you actually going to vote?
because if you don't, it looks like you dont want your voting patterns to be in the votingthread.

You must not be from Gryffindor! A very cowardly act to accuse a loyal hufflepuff of being afraid to place his vote in the voting thread.


what holds you back then?

1) the voting thread wasn't even created when I posted.
2) It's not a real vote
3) Watching for players being afraid to put votes in the voting thread at the start of the game is a silly and ineffective method of scumhunting.


This is fine for an explanation, what about you?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 06:46 GMT
#517
To add to this, I think there are better targets then Grack for right now, I'm waiting for a response to my question for him which will either solidify my town read of him or possibly rescind it. I'm not ignoring him entirely.

Holyflare is quite interesting, but he'll slip up eventually if he is scum.
Storr we will see.

And there are probably at least two scum in the lurkers, if not more.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 07:48 GMT
#524
What's yours?.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 14:41 GMT
#638
If a pm circle rises, it must be used with utmost caution.

People need to contribute to the thread.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 14:51 GMT
#648
On October 17 2013 23:41 yamato77 wrote:
Well, at least this idiotic push if me gives me a read on you.


I don't think it proves anything, never really see mafia go after vets. Especially with weak reasoning and when they're all alone, its just a lone townie trying to lynch you.

Mocsta and Yamato are my two strongest town reads. Mocsta because every single thing he's posted so far I've liked and he's not spamming the thread while still having an influence. Yamato because he is being his townie self without the incessant spam, and I heavily disagree that he isn't pushing people. You don't have to vote someone to push them.

Rayne I cannot see how you read Vayne. When he's not contributing you think he's town and when he does contribute you think he's scum. He has already put more effort into the game then the first two days of the Thug.

I am not sure of the alignment of Vayne, but there are better people to go after for a lynch especially when there are already suspicious people.

Skanjab, you are tunneling Yamato and reading into things. He doesn't have to exactly fit with his town meta to be town, heck he was playing his scum meta up until the second day of play in Thug and he was town. Also why /would you lynch a potentially very valuable vet?

We should lynch Palmar if he doesn't shape up for worst post he could have made; absolutely nothing of interest would have come out of that statement. This is exactly his scum play in Thug playing bullshit fake contribution which isn't original or innovative.

Stutters hasn't posted in forever, Ceriph is of course a good lynch.

Keeping mine on Mattchew because I actually have reasons but am interested to see three votes on Vayne

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 14:52 GMT
#650
On October 17 2013 23:50 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:41 Pandain wrote:
If a pm circle rises, it must be used with utmost caution.

People need to contribute to the thread.


???


Isn't that post scummy?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 14:52 GMT
#652
Heck a player doesn't even have to play to his meta, it's honestly only a slight tell at best.

Meta is way over used in lynches.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 14:54 GMT
#653
On October 17 2013 23:49 LastArgument wrote:
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On October 17 2013 23:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
LA, any comment on my supposed town mentality when it comes to policy?

What supposed town mentality? You've simply asserted that magically you now like policy lynching having been staunchly against it previously in your town career.
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On October 17 2013 23:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
quotes that are literally MONTHS ago, and I've taken a rather long break from mafia. My stance on policy votes can't have changed? Not only that, but the first quote was in regards to a specific player, simply for existing (grush). For the 2nd quote, pressure =\= policy.

This even misrepresents your own quotation, as the quotation in question clearly puts you against policy lynches in general, even though it was applied to one player at the time. Reading the quotation, you are obviously talking in general terms.


Do you really think that two posts in different contexts mean that he always has to be against policy lynches?

Even if it hinted at that, couldn't he change?

Why are you voting him, is it just for that.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 14:57 GMT
#657
Echelon is painting red all over himself.

On October 17 2013 18:34 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 07:10 I-be-Pro wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:05 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 07:01 You-Know-Who wrote:
No more posting from QTs! Last warning.

Ange


what where it that rule? you only said that posting PMs is forbidden... :-o
It's okay though...

I guess everyone should now talk in this thread. Use your QTs only for the absolute necessary things please.
I need to see everything you're talking to be able to get a proper image of you.
It's in towns best interest to share as many information as possible.

I'm going to keep spamming in my QT. I treat my house QT as a nice chat with people to get a better read on them in person through casual chit chat. I can't just spam that much in here...

I'm keeping it that way and I don't think you need to know when we're joking about the host being a german female and all that. Rather be happy that some people have additional info they'd otherwise not have if they're willing to put in some time that way.

I really, really dislike this. The QT's are basically imperfect mason circles; while a mason circle with confirmed townies is extremely powerful to bounce reads off one another, one that almost definitely has scum in it is very open to manipulation. Any interesting information (people's town lists anyone?) that is listed in a QT, but not in the thread will still make it to the scum, giving them an edge. The QTs are also inferior compared to PM circles, as you can pick and choose who you PM and try to get share information only with people you believe to be town. The majority of the activity should be in thread.

I don't doubt that Toad will be active in the thread, but hidden information in QTs is decisively negative. I'm also still considering if the town as a whole should decide on how to use the prizes from challenges or not; putting it up to a town vote would 1.) generate healthy discussion, 2.)allow the town to have more control how these power items will be used.


What does this post do? It's a whole bunch of words but no end impact and it would never have impact. It is also negative and discourages people from QT play, which is bad.

ET has 5 other people he can start to harass and question in thread, and he says woah that's too dangerous.
On October 17 2013 20:09 EchelonTee wrote:
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On October 17 2013 20:04 LastArgument wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
In other news. VA is playing his scum meta in the QT.


What is his scum meta? This statement is useless without qualification.

This clearly articulates why I dislike the QT activity that does not get fully transferred over to thread


Why? If I can confirm a whole house or lynch the scum in it, that's a town circle right there.
QT activity can win this game and we should keep them active.

I also don't like how he started to get the "dumb" response to Mocsta by saying "Are you kidding me".

Responses like that indicate you feel threatened so you go after the other person
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 17 2013 14:59 GMT
#658
On October 17 2013 23:54 LastArgument wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:54 Pandain wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:49 LastArgument wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
LA, any comment on my supposed town mentality when it comes to policy?

What supposed town mentality? You've simply asserted that magically you now like policy lynching having been staunchly against it previously in your town career.
On October 17 2013 23:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
quotes that are literally MONTHS ago, and I've taken a rather long break from mafia. My stance on policy votes can't have changed? Not only that, but the first quote was in regards to a specific player, simply for existing (grush). For the 2nd quote, pressure =\= policy.

This even misrepresents your own quotation, as the quotation in question clearly puts you against policy lynches in general, even though it was applied to one player at the time. Reading the quotation, you are obviously talking in general terms.


Do you really think that two posts in different contexts mean that he always has to be against policy lynches?

Even if it hinted at that, couldn't he change?

Why are you voting him, is it just for that.

I suggest you read my filter.


Well if you want to convince me to vote for him, then lay it on the line. I only see that you think he should always value suspicions over policy lynches.
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