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(debunked) red bull gets license instead of mlg

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theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 20:08:47
August 09 2013 16:15 GMT
#1
update from blizzard employee.


Kevin M. Johnson
‏@kmicj
.@SirScoots @MLG Red Bull is the only company to have requested a license for that weekend. It's an open, non-exclusive weekend.


updates from mlg adam

Hey guys,

I wanted to stop back and apologize for the one line response earlier in this thread, I was in the middle of a million things and I was quickly replying to ensure that my copy and pasted tweets were not taken out of context (it was an odd thing to reference within this thread). I know this is a sensitive topic for everyone, and I should have known better than to come in without responding to any of the other questions or concerns that were being voiced. With that being said, I unfortunately do not have much more to add to the discussion. MLG will not be hosting a SC2 event the weekend of 11/22-11/24, but I'm sure there will be official announcements about other activity that weekend. If there is activity going on over that weekend, MLG will definitely reach out to the proper parties to offer any help/support we can. Sometimes action (or in this case inaction) is done with scene's best interest in mind.

I know this is an ambiguous post, but I did want to stop in and genuinely apologize for my post. Enjoy the WCS Regional Final bonanza this weekend!



Well I dunno why trying to pull info from MLG is like pulling teeth. You can clear this all up real simple and fast if you answer these questions.

1. Did MLG not request a license because they weren't planning to do sc2 in the first place, so there's no point in asking?

Yes/No

2. Did MLG not request a license only after finding out Redbull was planning an event that same weekend and therefore felt it didn't make business sense to compete for the same viewers and decided not to ask for a license given this info?

Yes/No

That is the only clarification people seek. It answers the question of whether or not MLG didn't want to do sc2 in the first place or whether MLG decided not to do sc2 only after they found out about redbull.



No title is 100% yet for Columbus, so #1 is not even relevant. However, we plan our calendar around other events so that #1 would not even be an issue. Unfortunately, there was a scheduling overlap with someone else that caught both parties unawares. We are working with that group to make the best of a shoddy situation.


ok so it appears that mlg did not want to host sc2 in the first place




I did not see a topic on this matter so i might just right one.Which is actually weird considering how much drama the mlg announcement caused.According to sirscoots the real reason why sc2 will not be at mlg is because redbull booked the date in advance before mlg and blizzard has no choice but to give them the date.

Update1:it appears according to blizzard that the above statement is not true and mlg did not request a license in the first place



BREAKING: Sources close to SSNN report that Red Bull has been granted a SC2 license for the same dates @MLG requested. They asked first.
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@eneKeyHunt @iceMILOsan @keekerdc It's not "priority" it is who submitted the date first to Blizzard.
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@iceMILOsan @keekerdc Two license holders submitted for dates, first one to submit gets it when within same time zone etc. This happened.
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@iceMILOsan @keekerdc I am well aware of the system, also been through it several times. This was a date clash and one partner got it...
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@iceMILOsan @keekerdc I do not mean WCS, I mean another company throwing events.
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@SkyTree90210 @keekerdc Com manager and license guy...not same.
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@Symm2112 @iceMILOsan @keekerdc Read his tweet, it specifically talks of cbus event. Why would it be more?
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@iceMILOsan @keekerdc SSNN is digging, more to come
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@turdburglersc @MLG It has always been mine.
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@iceMILOsan @keekerdc But Blizz still dictates on date conflicts etc, so two "license holders" wanting same date, one will get denied.
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@turdburglersc @MLG Dude, they broke this news via twitter...so umm yea...
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@TheAmsterdamned His job does not mean he is even in the loop on high level license stuff between MLG and Blizzard though.
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@turdburglersc @MLG What they "should" say...and what they say...not always the same though.
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@djtyrant @MLG If they say that, they kind of leak news of another unannounced event and that is not for them to do?
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
@keekerdc Meaning, this is not MLG dropping the game, just unable to host it this weekend due to a conflict.
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Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots 9 Aug
Anyone wondering if perhaps @MLG was just unable to get a license for SC2 for the weekend in Cbus? And this is truly is a 1 event thing?


update from sirscoots twitter


There are many more nuances to this MLG/RB story and perhaps now the real reporters in the scene can dig deeper. #SSNN


Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
August 09 2013 16:16 GMT
#2
Woot
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
August 09 2013 16:18 GMT
#3
Woot woot
ur pro or ur noob , thats life
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2013 16:18 GMT
#4
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 09 2013 16:19 GMT
#5
Yeah!
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
August 09 2013 16:20 GMT
#6
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
August 09 2013 16:20 GMT
#7
I bet Sundance is having a great time with this though
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 09 2013 16:21 GMT
#8
On August 10 2013 01:20 Integra wrote:
I bet Sundance is having a great time with this though

he's probably laughing his ass off in his office right now.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:24:19
August 09 2013 16:22 GMT
#9
On August 10 2013 01:20 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity

The studio Redbull has is pretty big. You don't know how big the event is going to be. You are speculating and blaming Blizzard for something they cannot control.

Fuck it, this lets change the tone of the discussion. What do folks want to see at the event? Since it is 2 weeks after WCS finals, we they could have an awesome open bracket. Or maybe hold the open bracket during the two weeks leading up and have a weekend long round of 16?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 09 2013 16:23 GMT
#10
On August 10 2013 01:20 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity

Redbull could be planning something bigger though as they definitely have the tools necessary to do such.
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NuEnergy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands46 Posts
August 09 2013 16:24 GMT
#11
On August 10 2013 01:20 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity


I somehow believe I like the redbull events a lot more because its less commercial and far less down time and me as a person sencerly hate too much downtime and too much crappy commercials so i for 1 am cheering for this change never really liked MLG because of that straight fact
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:26:19
August 09 2013 16:24 GMT
#12
On August 10 2013 01:22 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:20 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity

The studio Redbull has is pretty big. You don't know how big the event is going to be. You are speculating and blaming Blizzard for something they cannot control.


they can.it is their ip and they can change the rules of the game anytime and without annoucing.it event states in the contracts.and it is weird blizzard let this happen in the most struggling scene with only 2 big lans considering how much they throw #growsc2 around.

@novemberest @nuenergy

there are theonly 2 lans in the usa.how hard it is for blizzard to make sure thye do not overlap.i mean either redbull is ill intended or just bm.they collided with the hsc in europe last time and now they cancel an mlg.wtf.can't this dudes get their own dates?
Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
August 09 2013 16:25 GMT
#13
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh!
etternaonline.com
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
August 09 2013 16:26 GMT
#14
On August 10 2013 01:21 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:20 Integra wrote:
I bet Sundance is having a great time with this though

he's probably laughing his ass off in his office right now.


With the amount of people that reportedly unsubscribed from MLG Gold and their various twitch channels i'm not sure he'd find this too amusing.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
August 09 2013 16:26 GMT
#15
MLG and RedBull decided to schedule their events on this date. RB asked first and won, this is the way the world works. So why can't we all shut the fuck up and deal with it like mature people for once. But no, instead another nonsensical hate thread was opened, no doubt blaming Blizz for everything that happened to mankind since the expulsion from paradise. Sigh -_-
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
August 09 2013 16:26 GMT
#16
Hmm. I've always turned off the Red Bull events quickly due to the low skill level (comparitiavely) to other events. Mid (or, hell even high) tier NA talent just doesn't do it for me anymore. I don't think I'm alone there. Hopefully Red Bull can put together a more properly international (read: Korean) event. I have no qualms with their production levels, etc.

Good news -- we'll see how it shapes up.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
August 09 2013 16:27 GMT
#17
On August 10 2013 01:26 Archybaldie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:21 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:20 Integra wrote:
I bet Sundance is having a great time with this though

he's probably laughing his ass off in his office right now.


With the amount of people that reportedly unsubscribed from MLG Gold and their various twitch channels i'm not sure he'd find this too amusing.


yeah this too.the top rated comment in all those thousand comment threads were to unsubscribe from mlg.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 09 2013 16:27 GMT
#18
On August 10 2013 01:24 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:22 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:20 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity

The studio Redbull has is pretty big. You don't know how big the event is going to be. You are speculating and blaming Blizzard for something they cannot control.



@novemberest @nuenergy

there are theonly 2 lans in the usa.how hard it is for blizzard to make sure thye do not overlap.i mean either redbull is ill intended or just bm.they collided with the hsc in europe last time and now they cancel an mlg.wtf.can't this dudes get their own dates?


What exactly should they do, if they ask BEFORE MLG? How are they supposed to know, when MLG is held?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2013 16:27 GMT
#19
On August 10 2013 01:24 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:22 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:20 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity

The studio Redbull has is pretty big. You don't know how big the event is going to be. You are speculating and blaming Blizzard for something they cannot control.


they can.it is their ip and they can change the rules of the game anytime and without annoucing.it event states in the contracts.and it is weird blizzard let this happen in the most struggling scene with only 2 big lans considering how much they throw #growsc2 around.

They signed contracts with people and have a process for handing out those approval to broadcast. You dont' change those on a whim. Its not Blizzards fault, stop acting like it is.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
August 09 2013 16:28 GMT
#20
aaaaand people in the no sc2 @mlg thread can stop crying now :D
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
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