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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
August 09 2013 18:56 GMT
#101
I missed most of the drama whatever, so i just want to get this straight before jumping to any conclussion.

Redbull got the license because they submitted application (or whatever) before MLG for that weekend, so that's why MLG is not hosting SC2 at columbus, right ?
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 09 2013 18:57 GMT
#102
MLG didnt even submit a license request. Only red bull did.

Twitter convo was just bullshit
Useless wet fish.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 18:59:15
August 09 2013 18:58 GMT
#103
On August 10 2013 03:56 Godwrath wrote:
I missed most of the drama whatever, so i just want to get this straight before jumping to any conclussion.

Redbull got the license because they submitted application (or whatever) before MLG for that weekend, so that's why MLG is not hosting SC2 at columbus, right ?

Exactly. MLG opted not to host SC2 at the event. We assume because they didn't want to fight with Redbull for viewers and just decided to bow out. So now we have an event run by Redbull and MLG will likely run other events later with SC2.
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:04:07
August 09 2013 19:03 GMT
#104
On August 10 2013 03:58 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:56 Godwrath wrote:
I missed most of the drama whatever, so i just want to get this straight before jumping to any conclussion.

Redbull got the license because they submitted application (or whatever) before MLG for that weekend, so that's why MLG is not hosting SC2 at columbus, right ?

Exactly. MLG opted not to host SC2 at the event. We assume because they didn't want to fight with Redbull for viewers and just decided to bow out. So now we have an event run by Redbull and MLG will likely run other events later with SC2.

I am on fire today. Thanks man. So there is no big deal, just stuff that happens and move on.
XXXSmOke
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1333 Posts
August 09 2013 19:04 GMT
#105
On August 10 2013 03:58 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:56 Godwrath wrote:
I missed most of the drama whatever, so i just want to get this straight before jumping to any conclussion.

Redbull got the license because they submitted application (or whatever) before MLG for that weekend, so that's why MLG is not hosting SC2 at columbus, right ?

Exactly. MLG opted not to host SC2 at the event. We assume because they didn't want to fight with Redbull for viewers and just decided to bow out. So now we have an event run by Redbull and MLG will likely run other events later with SC2.


Reread the OP he just updated it.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2013 19:06 GMT
#106
On August 10 2013 04:04 XXXSmOke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:58 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:56 Godwrath wrote:
I missed most of the drama whatever, so i just want to get this straight before jumping to any conclussion.

Redbull got the license because they submitted application (or whatever) before MLG for that weekend, so that's why MLG is not hosting SC2 at columbus, right ?

Exactly. MLG opted not to host SC2 at the event. We assume because they didn't want to fight with Redbull for viewers and just decided to bow out. So now we have an event run by Redbull and MLG will likely run other events later with SC2.


Reread the OP he just updated it.

I did and there is no new information. What I said before is accurate.
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XXXSmOke
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1333 Posts
August 09 2013 19:16 GMT
#107
update from blizzard employee.


Kevin M. Johnson
‏@kmicj
.@SirScoots @MLG Red Bull is the only company to have requested a license for that weekend. It's an open, non-exclusive weekend.


ok so it appears that mlg did not want to host sc2 in the first place


did you read that?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2013 19:20 GMT
#108
On August 10 2013 04:16 XXXSmOke wrote:
update from blizzard employee.


Kevin M. Johnson
‏@kmicj
.@SirScoots @MLG Red Bull is the only company to have requested a license for that weekend. It's an open, non-exclusive weekend.


ok so it appears that mlg did not want to host sc2 in the first place


did you read that?

Yes. That does not mean that MLG did not want to host SC2 at the event, only that they did not formally request a license. They opted not to request one once they knew that Redbull already had one and was running an event. They decided that they did not want to run up against another event and make players and viewers choose which one.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
August 09 2013 19:25 GMT
#109
On August 10 2013 04:20 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:16 XXXSmOke wrote:
update from blizzard employee.


Kevin M. Johnson
‏@kmicj
.@SirScoots @MLG Red Bull is the only company to have requested a license for that weekend. It's an open, non-exclusive weekend.


ok so it appears that mlg did not want to host sc2 in the first place


did you read that?

Yes. That does not mean that MLG did not want to host SC2 at the event, only that they did not formally request a license. They opted not to request one once they knew that Redbull already had one and was running an event. They decided that they did not want to run up against another event and make players and viewers choose which one.


do you have any sources for that or are you just guessing out in the blue?
Serek
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom459 Posts
August 09 2013 19:26 GMT
#110
On August 10 2013 04:20 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:16 XXXSmOke wrote:
update from blizzard employee.


Kevin M. Johnson
‏@kmicj
.@SirScoots @MLG Red Bull is the only company to have requested a license for that weekend. It's an open, non-exclusive weekend.


ok so it appears that mlg did not want to host sc2 in the first place


did you read that?

Yes. That does not mean that MLG did not want to host SC2 at the event, only that they did not formally request a license. They opted not to request one once they knew that Redbull already had one and was running an event. They decided that they did not want to run up against another event and make players and viewers choose which one.


Or maybe they indeed decided to drop SC2 and move on.

It works both ways.
XXXSmOke
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1333 Posts
August 09 2013 19:29 GMT
#111
On August 10 2013 04:20 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:16 XXXSmOke wrote:
update from blizzard employee.


Kevin M. Johnson
‏@kmicj
.@SirScoots @MLG Red Bull is the only company to have requested a license for that weekend. It's an open, non-exclusive weekend.


ok so it appears that mlg did not want to host sc2 in the first place


did you read that?

Yes. That does not mean that MLG did not want to host SC2 at the event, only that they did not formally request a license. They opted not to request one once they knew that Redbull already had one and was running an event. They decided that they did not want to run up against another event and make players and viewers choose which one.


And how do you know this?????





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MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:40:43
August 09 2013 19:29 GMT
#112
Hey guys,

I wanted to stop back and apologize for the one line response earlier in this thread, I was in the middle of a million things and I was quickly replying to ensure that my copy and pasted tweets were not taken out of context (it was an odd thing to reference within this thread). I know this is a sensitive topic for everyone, and I should have known better than to come in without responding to any of the other questions or concerns that were being voiced. With that being said, I unfortunately do not have much more to add to the discussion. MLG will not be hosting a SC2 event the weekend of 11/22-11/24, but I'm sure there will be official announcements about other activity that weekend. If there is activity going on over that weekend, MLG will definitely reach out to the proper parties to offer any help/support we can. Sometimes action (or in this case inaction) is done with scene's best interest in mind.

I know this is an ambiguous post, but I did want to stop in and genuinely apologize for my post. Enjoy the WCS Regional Final bonanza this weekend!
Twitter: MrAdamAp
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:31:21
August 09 2013 19:29 GMT
#113
On August 10 2013 04:25 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:20 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:16 XXXSmOke wrote:
update from blizzard employee.


Kevin M. Johnson
‏@kmicj
.@SirScoots @MLG Red Bull is the only company to have requested a license for that weekend. It's an open, non-exclusive weekend.


ok so it appears that mlg did not want to host sc2 in the first place


did you read that?

Yes. That does not mean that MLG did not want to host SC2 at the event, only that they did not formally request a license. They opted not to request one once they knew that Redbull already had one and was running an event. They decided that they did not want to run up against another event and make players and viewers choose which one.


do you have any sources for that or are you just guessing out in the blue?

I have it on good authority that MLG decided not to compete with Redbull and opted not request a license, but would have if Redbull was not running an event that weekend.
On August 10 2013 04:29 XXXSmOke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:20 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:16 XXXSmOke wrote:
update from blizzard employee.


Kevin M. Johnson
‏@kmicj
.@SirScoots @MLG Red Bull is the only company to have requested a license for that weekend. It's an open, non-exclusive weekend.


ok so it appears that mlg did not want to host sc2 in the first place


did you read that?

Yes. That does not mean that MLG did not want to host SC2 at the event, only that they did not formally request a license. They opted not to request one once they knew that Redbull already had one and was running an event. They decided that they did not want to run up against another event and make players and viewers choose which one.


And how do you know this?????



I'm a really nice guy.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 09 2013 19:32 GMT
#114
This is not a huge deal.

Everything will be fine.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:38:43
August 09 2013 19:37 GMT
#115
On August 10 2013 04:29 MLG_Adam wrote:
Hey guys,

I wanted to stop back and apologize for the one line response earlier in this thread, I was in the middle of a million things and I was quickly replying to ensure that my copy and pasted tweets were not taken out of context (it was an odd thing to reference within this thread). I know this is a sensitive topic for everyone, and I should have known better than to come in without responding to any of the other questions or concerns that were being voiced. With that being said, I unfortunately do not have much more to add to the discussion. MLG will not be hosting an event the weekend of 11/22-11/24, but I'm sure there will be official announcements about other activity that weekend. If there is activity going on over that weekend, MLG will definitely reach out to the proper parties to offer any help/support we can. Sometimes action (or in this case inaction) is done with scene's best interest in mind.

I know this is an ambiguous post, but I did want to stop in and genuinely apologize for my post. Enjoy the WCS Regional Final bonanza this weekend!


Well I dunno why trying to pull info from MLG is like pulling teeth. You can clear this all up real simple and fast if you answer these questions.

1. Did MLG not request a license because they weren't planning to do sc2 in the first place, so there's no point in asking?

Yes/No

2. Did MLG not request a license only after finding out Redbull was planning an event that same weekend and therefore felt it didn't make business sense to compete for the same viewers and decided not to ask for a license given this info?

Yes/No

That is the only clarification people seek. It answers the question of whether or not MLG didn't want to do sc2 in the first place or whether MLG decided not to do sc2 only after they found out about redbull.

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Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
August 09 2013 19:38 GMT
#116
On August 10 2013 04:29 MLG_Adam wrote:
Hey guys,

I wanted to stop back and apologize for the one line response earlier in this thread, I was in the middle of a million things and I was quickly replying to ensure that my copy and pasted tweets were not taken out of context (it was an odd thing to reference within this thread). I know this is a sensitive topic for everyone, and I should have known better than to come in without responding to any of the other questions or concerns that were being voiced. With that being said, I unfortunately do not have much more to add to the discussion. MLG will not be hosting an event the weekend of 11/22-11/24, but I'm sure there will be official announcements about other activity that weekend. If there is activity going on over that weekend, MLG will definitely reach out to the proper parties to offer any help/support we can. Sometimes action (or in this case inaction) is done with scene's best interest in mind.

I know this is an ambiguous post, but I did want to stop in and genuinely apologize for my post. Enjoy the WCS Regional Final bonanza this weekend!

I presume you mean Starcraft event, unless MLG Columbus is not occurring on that weekend.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
August 09 2013 19:39 GMT
#117
On August 10 2013 04:29 MLG_Adam wrote:
Hey guys,

I wanted to stop back and apologize for the one line response earlier in this thread, I was in the middle of a million things and I was quickly replying to ensure that my copy and pasted tweets were not taken out of context (it was an odd thing to reference within this thread). I know this is a sensitive topic for everyone, and I should have known better than to come in without responding to any of the other questions or concerns that were being voiced. With that being said, I unfortunately do not have much more to add to the discussion. MLG will not be hosting an event the weekend of 11/22-11/24, but I'm sure there will be official announcements about other activity that weekend. If there is activity going on over that weekend, MLG will definitely reach out to the proper parties to offer any help/support we can. Sometimes action (or in this case inaction) is done with scene's best interest in mind.

I know this is an ambiguous post, but I did want to stop in and genuinely apologize for my post. Enjoy the WCS Regional Final bonanza this weekend!

Nice you drop in here. I read this 2 times now and honestly I could not find a single information in your post. What is "MLG does not host an event; I am sure there will be info about another event; we help another event if there is one" supposed to mean? Sorry, if I am not into marketinglish that deep to understand.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:42:28
August 09 2013 19:39 GMT
#118
sure sounds like adam is implying that redbull asked first so mlg is being nice / not competing for players and viewers "doing whats best for the scene"
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MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
August 09 2013 19:40 GMT
#119
On August 10 2013 04:38 Ichabod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:29 MLG_Adam wrote:
Hey guys,

I wanted to stop back and apologize for the one line response earlier in this thread, I was in the middle of a million things and I was quickly replying to ensure that my copy and pasted tweets were not taken out of context (it was an odd thing to reference within this thread). I know this is a sensitive topic for everyone, and I should have known better than to come in without responding to any of the other questions or concerns that were being voiced. With that being said, I unfortunately do not have much more to add to the discussion. MLG will not be hosting an event the weekend of 11/22-11/24, but I'm sure there will be official announcements about other activity that weekend. If there is activity going on over that weekend, MLG will definitely reach out to the proper parties to offer any help/support we can. Sometimes action (or in this case inaction) is done with scene's best interest in mind.

I know this is an ambiguous post, but I did want to stop in and genuinely apologize for my post. Enjoy the WCS Regional Final bonanza this weekend!

I presume you mean Starcraft event, unless MLG Columbus is not occurring on that weekend.


Correct, sorry I will edit to reflect the distinction.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
Achaia
Profile Joined July 2010
United States643 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:46:16
August 09 2013 19:41 GMT
#120
On August 10 2013 01:24 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:22 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:20 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity

The studio Redbull has is pretty big. You don't know how big the event is going to be. You are speculating and blaming Blizzard for something they cannot control.


they can.it is their ip and they can change the rules of the game anytime and without annoucing.it event states in the contracts.and it is weird blizzard let this happen in the most struggling scene with only 2 big lans considering how much they throw #growsc2 around.

@novemberest @nuenergy

there are theonly 2 lans in the usa.how hard it is for blizzard to make sure thye do not overlap.i mean either redbull is ill intended or just bm.they collided with the hsc in europe last time and now they cancel an mlg.wtf.can't this dudes get their own dates?


I have a feeling these scheduling overlaps are more to do with Blizzards "You can't broadcast over WCS" rule. That leaves very little time for other organizations to put on events since the three regions basically cover a huge chunk of air time.

On August 10 2013 04:40 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:38 Ichabod wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:29 MLG_Adam wrote:
Hey guys,

I wanted to stop back and apologize for the one line response earlier in this thread, I was in the middle of a million things and I was quickly replying to ensure that my copy and pasted tweets were not taken out of context (it was an odd thing to reference within this thread). I know this is a sensitive topic for everyone, and I should have known better than to come in without responding to any of the other questions or concerns that were being voiced. With that being said, I unfortunately do not have much more to add to the discussion. MLG will not be hosting an event the weekend of 11/22-11/24, but I'm sure there will be official announcements about other activity that weekend. If there is activity going on over that weekend, MLG will definitely reach out to the proper parties to offer any help/support we can. Sometimes action (or in this case inaction) is done with scene's best interest in mind.

I know this is an ambiguous post, but I did want to stop in and genuinely apologize for my post. Enjoy the WCS Regional Final bonanza this weekend!

I presume you mean Starcraft event, unless MLG Columbus is not occurring on that weekend.


Correct, sorry I will edit to reflect the distinction.


Also, this is lame. Red Bull events (presuming they're in their studio again) are on the west coast right? MLG Columbus is in the east coast time zone which limits the overlap somewhat. Not to mention that there are very few players invited to the Red Bull events so unless they are planning on completely changing their event structure to something much larger there will still be a huge amount of pro players available to attend MLG Columbus. It's a shame, I was really looking forward to attending this event but I won't be there without SC2.
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