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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 09 2013 17:56 GMT
#81
On August 10 2013 02:45 renaissanceMAN wrote:
see SC2 is not dying...

It's like one of those movie deaths that go on forever.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 09 2013 17:56 GMT
#82
Sometimes I wonder how it would be to have competition in the classic rts genre. How it would be when people weren't forced to focus on one game and had the option to head over to the other game because they think it is better and stop leaving carvings on the wall how the world will end.
LoL and Dota2 have it pretty good in that regard. But I guess just being an improved clone of the original is easier then being something different, when you have to live up to the hype of multiple years. Especially if you have competition where the disillusioned people can head back to.
But it is a rather intriguing experience to see how some things don't change, while other do.

And wow raging Mlg.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2013 17:58 GMT
#83
On August 10 2013 02:56 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:45 renaissanceMAN wrote:
see SC2 is not dying...

It's like one of those movie deaths that go on forever.

It only stops if you stop saying it out loud.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Squiggles
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada54 Posts
August 09 2013 18:00 GMT
#84
Redbull is everywhere. They sponsor/own all sorts of race teams, air races, extreme sports, etc. etc... Have a lot of money. Best wishes to them!
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 09 2013 18:06 GMT
#85
On August 10 2013 02:56 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:45 renaissanceMAN wrote:
see SC2 is not dying...

It's like one of those movie deaths that go on forever.


i was a cod gamer, believe me, I know what a dying game looks like

SC2 is alive and well
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
August 09 2013 18:07 GMT
#86
On August 10 2013 02:28 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:22 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote:
Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them?

They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times.


Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license.



Adam Apicella ‏@MrAdamAp

@SirScoots WHAT BAD PR FOR SSNN!



Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots

@MrAdamAp I think the afternoon shareholders call is gonna be a bitch! Heads will roll!



Wow you extracted that much information from me joking with Scoots about his vulgar tweet? Impressive, you should apply to work for SSNN


The clarity of MLG on TL has always pushed my buttons in the wrong way. All the tournaments you post about on here and then never actually host, the horrendous event organization for WCS without any fixes, and then posts like this which show zero care for what people are attempting to get clarity out of. You know, if you want to post something be constructive and helpful, don't do one liners which still leave the problem open ended. There are, amazingly enough, people's LIVELIHOOD dependent on factors such as NA LANs for SC2; however, this is all you manage to grace us with.

I've been a member on MLG's site since well before SC2 (2007?) and have watched since the growth in 2004-2005 with other games. However, the amount of jumping around the organization does, the clarity, the communication, the drive and the motivation all seem incredibly lacking for any one game. Understandably, you are an organization. But that alone does not mean you should treat your consumers like they're stupid for trying to understand a situation they have no inside knowledge of. Why not reply to him with something helpful. Posts such as this seem incredibly petty, especially for an official employee.

Try to be reasonable, rational, and critical in your explanations to us so we can understand. Then we can make some real judgement on the issue instead of speculating.

Though, it seems like TL has worked out a comprehensive analysis of what is going on already without directly hearing it from MLG... That speaks volumes :/
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 09 2013 18:07 GMT
#87
Hahaha, so it is basically just that they didn't get the license...much ado about nothing.
Get off my lawn, young punks
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
August 09 2013 18:08 GMT
#88
As far as MLG goes...whatever. If they have SC2 great, if not, ok. But really stoked that Red Bull is becoming increasingly relevant. Love thier events, production, casters, the whole deal.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2013 18:13 GMT
#89
On August 10 2013 03:06 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:56 nihlon wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:45 renaissanceMAN wrote:
see SC2 is not dying...

It's like one of those movie deaths that go on forever.


i was a cod gamer, believe me, I know what a dying game looks like

SC2 is alive and well

LoL, this is the best quote of the thread.

"You haven't seen a dying game. Once you see that, you won't make the mistake again"
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
August 09 2013 18:16 GMT
#90
Please change the title, it is misleading.

And please move the blizzard response to the top of OP since people can't seem to be bothered to read.

MLG could but isn't hosting SC2 at cbus. Same news as it was 2 days ago, but now Redbull will have a sc2 event during that time...redbull did not get a license instead of mlg, mlg never applied for one (because they aren't having sc2 at the event)
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 18:23:08
August 09 2013 18:20 GMT
#91
On August 10 2013 03:13 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:06 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:56 nihlon wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:45 renaissanceMAN wrote:
see SC2 is not dying...

It's like one of those movie deaths that go on forever.


i was a cod gamer, believe me, I know what a dying game looks like

SC2 is alive and well

LoL, this is the best quote of the thread.

"You haven't seen a dying game. Once you see that, you won't make the mistake again"


Isn't CoD still the highest selling game out there though o_O

Also trading out MLG for Red Bull is more of a win for sc2 in the end, isn't it? Red Bull is HUGE worldwide, whereas MLG is only known amongst those already into esports. Or am I missing something lol...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 18:24:13
August 09 2013 18:22 GMT
#92
On August 10 2013 03:20 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:13 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:06 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:56 nihlon wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:45 renaissanceMAN wrote:
see SC2 is not dying...

It's like one of those movie deaths that go on forever.


i was a cod gamer, believe me, I know what a dying game looks like

SC2 is alive and well

LoL, this is the best quote of the thread.

"You haven't seen a dying game. Once you see that, you won't make the mistake again"


Isn't CoD still the highest selling game out there though o_O

Less and less every year. And the multiplayer is the most stale of the stale. It sells a lot, but like madden, it has reached everyone it is going to.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 18:28:26
August 09 2013 18:23 GMT
#93
On August 10 2013 03:07 -Kyo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:28 MLG_Adam wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:22 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote:
Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them?

They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times.


Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license.

https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/365884859052326913

Adam Apicella ‏@MrAdamAp

@SirScoots WHAT BAD PR FOR SSNN!

https://twitter.com/SirScoots/status/365885080931020801

Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots

@MrAdamAp I think the afternoon shareholders call is gonna be a bitch! Heads will roll!



Wow you extracted that much information from me joking with Scoots about his vulgar tweet? Impressive, you should apply to work for SSNN


The clarity of MLG on TL has always pushed my buttons in the wrong way. All the tournaments you post about on here and then never actually host, the horrendous event organization for WCS without any fixes, and then posts like this which show zero care for what people are attempting to get clarity out of. You know, if you want to post something be constructive and helpful, don't do one liners which still leave the problem open ended. There are, amazingly enough, people's LIVELIHOOD dependent on factors such as NA LANs for SC2; however, this is all you manage to grace us with.

I've been a member on MLG's site since well before SC2 (2007?) and have watched since the growth in 2004-2005 with other games. However, the amount of jumping around the organization does, the clarity, the communication, the drive and the motivation all seem incredibly lacking for any one game. Understandably, you are an organization. But that alone does not mean you should treat your consumers like they're stupid for trying to understand a situation they have no inside knowledge of. Why not reply to him with something helpful. Posts such as this seem incredibly petty, especially for an official employee.

Try to be reasonable, rational, and critical in your explanations to us so we can understand. Then we can make some real judgement on the issue instead of speculating.

Though, it seems like TL has worked out a comprehensive analysis of what is going on already without directly hearing it from MLG... That speaks volumes :/


they let thousands of angry messages on reddit,people renounce their mlg membership and yet the only thing an mlg employee can do is come to teamliquid and troll.says a lot about the organization mlg is.at this moment in time i do not even consider it professional anymore.literally their only luck is that the usa esports market is so small they hold a monopoly over it.really hope another na company rises so they can put some competition.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
August 09 2013 18:24 GMT
#94
On August 10 2013 03:22 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:20 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:13 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:06 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:56 nihlon wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:45 renaissanceMAN wrote:
see SC2 is not dying...

It's like one of those movie deaths that go on forever.


i was a cod gamer, believe me, I know what a dying game looks like

SC2 is alive and well

LoL, this is the best quote of the thread.

"You haven't seen a dying game. Once you see that, you won't make the mistake again"


Isn't CoD still the highest selling game out there though o_O

Less and less every year. And the multiplayer is the most stale of the stale.


Gamer fatigue is a bitch. Not a fan of yearly full priced retail releases myself (with loads of top dollar dlcs strewn throughout each year).
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
August 09 2013 18:26 GMT
#95
So it's confirmed that MLG isn't planning SC2 at Columbus at all in the first place?
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2013 18:29 GMT
#96
On August 10 2013 03:23 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:07 -Kyo- wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:28 MLG_Adam wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:22 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote:
Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them?

They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times.


Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license.

https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/365884859052326913

Adam Apicella ‏@MrAdamAp

@SirScoots WHAT BAD PR FOR SSNN!

https://twitter.com/SirScoots/status/365885080931020801

Scott Smith ‏@SirScoots

@MrAdamAp I think the afternoon shareholders call is gonna be a bitch! Heads will roll!



Wow you extracted that much information from me joking with Scoots about his vulgar tweet? Impressive, you should apply to work for SSNN


The clarity of MLG on TL has always pushed my buttons in the wrong way. All the tournaments you post about on here and then never actually host, the horrendous event organization for WCS without any fixes, and then posts like this which show zero care for what people are attempting to get clarity out of. You know, if you want to post something be constructive and helpful, don't do one liners which still leave the problem open ended. There are, amazingly enough, people's LIVELIHOOD dependent on factors such as NA LANs for SC2; however, this is all you manage to grace us with.

I've been a member on MLG's site since well before SC2 (2007?) and have watched since the growth in 2004-2005 with other games. However, the amount of jumping around the organization does, the clarity, the communication, the drive and the motivation all seem incredibly lacking for any one game. Understandably, you are an organization. But that alone does not mean you should treat your consumers like they're stupid for trying to understand a situation they have no inside knowledge of. Why not reply to him with something helpful. Posts such as this seem incredibly petty, especially for an official employee.

Try to be reasonable, rational, and critical in your explanations to us so we can understand. Then we can make some real judgement on the issue instead of speculating.

Though, it seems like TL has worked out a comprehensive analysis of what is going on already without directly hearing it from MLG... That speaks volumes :/


they let thousands of angry message so reddit,people renounce their mlg membership and yet the only thing an mlg employee can do is come to teamliquid and troll.says a lot about the organization mlg is.at this moment in time i do not even consider it professional anymore.literally their only luck is that the usa esports market is so small they hold a monopoly over it.really hope another na company rises so they can put some competition.

I think you should forgive Adam for this little outbust there. They are prone to doing that, but its not like they meant anything bad from it. Redbull applied for the license first and MGL decided to not fight about it and just not have SC2 at the event. They wanted to let people know so they wouldn't by 100 plane tickets and may have miscalculated what would happen. It was a PR mistake, but at the end of the day, we can forgive them for it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2013 18:30 GMT
#97
On August 10 2013 03:24 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:22 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:20 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:13 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:06 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:56 nihlon wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:45 renaissanceMAN wrote:
see SC2 is not dying...

It's like one of those movie deaths that go on forever.


i was a cod gamer, believe me, I know what a dying game looks like

SC2 is alive and well

LoL, this is the best quote of the thread.

"You haven't seen a dying game. Once you see that, you won't make the mistake again"


Isn't CoD still the highest selling game out there though o_O

Less and less every year. And the multiplayer is the most stale of the stale.


Gamer fatigue is a bitch. Not a fan of yearly full priced retail releases myself (with loads of top dollar dlcs strewn throughout each year).

At least SC2 expansions cost less. CoD just gives you the same game every time and sells it to you like its ok.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
August 09 2013 18:34 GMT
#98
Stupid Blizzard, license your ass out of business.

User was warned for this post
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
August 09 2013 18:37 GMT
#99
On August 10 2013 03:34 edgeOut wrote:
Stupid Blizzard, license your ass out of business.

Read the post before you loose your stuff.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 18:51:58
August 09 2013 18:38 GMT
#100
On August 10 2013 03:20 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:13 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:06 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:56 nihlon wrote:
On August 10 2013 02:45 renaissanceMAN wrote:
see SC2 is not dying...

It's like one of those movie deaths that go on forever.


i was a cod gamer, believe me, I know what a dying game looks like

SC2 is alive and well

LoL, this is the best quote of the thread.

"You haven't seen a dying game. Once you see that, you won't make the mistake again"


Isn't CoD still the highest selling game out there though o_O

Also trading out MLG for Red Bull is more of a win for sc2 in the end, isn't it? Red Bull is HUGE worldwide, whereas MLG is only known amongst those already into esports. Or am I missing something lol...


Competitive cod ended in cod4 in like 2009/2010 (and this is really stretching it, it was floundering about dead in 08/09) and there have been 3 (4?) cod games since then that have tried to be competitive and failed miserably

I played from the original (which went to the CPL) through 2009, we survived with next to no support from activision for as long as we could. As long as Blizzard exists, they're not just going to let this game "die" like everyone is currently worrying about.
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