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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 09 2013 16:28 GMT
#21
to be honest, i like the redbull events more,
better streams, better casters, everything just better for the viewer (top quality streams free, best casters available (nothing against axeltoss or anyone but a day9 etc is just better) the players are great they make this fungames its sooo nice

sry but i cant do anything then being happy we get a new red bull event
sad for mlg yes but very very nice neither less
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Riquiz
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands402 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:29:38
August 09 2013 16:29 GMT
#22
Dat insight.

I hope the RB event will be real good : )
Caster man does casting on yt/RiquizCasts
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
August 09 2013 16:29 GMT
#23
On August 10 2013 01:27 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:24 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:22 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:20 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity

The studio Redbull has is pretty big. You don't know how big the event is going to be. You are speculating and blaming Blizzard for something they cannot control.



@novemberest @nuenergy

there are theonly 2 lans in the usa.how hard it is for blizzard to make sure thye do not overlap.i mean either redbull is ill intended or just bm.they collided with the hsc in europe last time and now they cancel an mlg.wtf.can't this dudes get their own dates?


What exactly should they do, if they ask BEFORE MLG? How are they supposed to know, when MLG is held?


one idea might be to make na tournament organizers like redbull and mlg talk to each other and plan their events for the entire year without overlapping.just saying.in the na there are huge periods with no major lans.the likelyhood of a collusion happening should be 0
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
August 09 2013 16:31 GMT
#24
whatever redbull does is always awesome
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 09 2013 16:32 GMT
#25
Looking forward to what Redbull has to offer
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:33:59
August 09 2013 16:33 GMT
#26
On August 10 2013 01:29 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:27 Xoronius wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:24 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:22 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:20 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity

The studio Redbull has is pretty big. You don't know how big the event is going to be. You are speculating and blaming Blizzard for something they cannot control.



@novemberest @nuenergy

there are theonly 2 lans in the usa.how hard it is for blizzard to make sure thye do not overlap.i mean either redbull is ill intended or just bm.they collided with the hsc in europe last time and now they cancel an mlg.wtf.can't this dudes get their own dates?


What exactly should they do, if they ask BEFORE MLG? How are they supposed to know, when MLG is held?


one idea might be to make na tournament organizers like redbull and mlg talk to each other and plan their events for the entire year without overlapping.just saying.in the na there are huge periods with no major lans.the likelyhood of a collusion happening should be 0

And if they both don't agree, what do you do then? Punish both them? Its not Blizzards job to make these people get along and they aren't going to. We are not one huge happy family and we need to stop demanding Blizzard to fix every conflict in the scene. We just need to vote with our eyes and money and the best show will win.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 09 2013 16:34 GMT
#27
MLG allegedly announced the dates for MLG Columbus at Anaheim. RB submitted their request first and got their license first. It's entirely possible RB just wanted to beat out a competitor, and/or they really didn't know MLG was going to hold Columbus on those dates. Whatever the case, it doesn't really matter, and I don't even think intentionally asking for a license for the same dates as MLG is wrong or anything ... in any case, I'm sure RB will put on a great event, and I just hope they invite some Korean players to participate. I don't think there's much more to be said.
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:37:10
August 09 2013 16:35 GMT
#28
On August 10 2013 01:34 babylon wrote:
MLG allegedly announced the dates for MLG Columbus at Anaheim. RB submitted their request first and got their license first. It's entirely possible RB just wanted to beat out a competitor, and/or they really didn't know MLG was going to hold Columbus on those dates. Whatever the case, it doesn't really matter, and I don't even think intentionally asking for a license for the same dates as MLG is wrong or anything ... in any case, I'm sure RB will put on a great event, and I just hope they invite some Korean players to participate. I don't think there's much more to be said.


pro players in the na scene have been yelling their hearts out about not being live events in the usa and now when they happen they overlap.this is bad no matter how you take it.and redbull never brought the numbers of mlg.

@plansix

you force them to agree otherwise choose the best option for the scene.mlg still brings in more viewers than redbull lan.And day 9 who is in charge of sc2 at redbull should have known not to collide with mlg.either way it hurts the scene to not have mlg.and redbull never organized anything of mlg scale/
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
August 09 2013 16:36 GMT
#29
Literally they could have released a pr statement saying another company got the dates instead of them,not give any names and move one.

Because if you do that you'll get a lot of speculation. Maybe we should wait for this before we jump to conclusions:
There are many more nuances to this MLG/RB story and perhaps now the real reporters in the scene can dig deeper. #SSNN
I Protoss winner, could it be?
dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
August 09 2013 16:36 GMT
#30
Wait you mean it wasn't MONEY? I thought that was the only way businesses decided things???

This is taking some crazy turns but I'm excited to hear what red bull had planned. Please be near Chicago.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2013 16:39 GMT
#31
On August 10 2013 01:35 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:34 babylon wrote:
MLG allegedly announced the dates for MLG Columbus at Anaheim. RB submitted their request first and got their license first. It's entirely possible RB just wanted to beat out a competitor, and/or they really didn't know MLG was going to hold Columbus on those dates. Whatever the case, it doesn't really matter, and I don't even think intentionally asking for a license for the same dates as MLG is wrong or anything ... in any case, I'm sure RB will put on a great event, and I just hope they invite some Korean players to participate. I don't think there's much more to be said.


pro players in the na scene have been yelling their hearts out about not being live events in the usa and now when they happen they overlap.this is bad no matter how you take it.and redbull never brought the numbers of mlg.

@plansix

you force them to agree otherwise choose the best option for the scene.mlg still brings in more viewers than redbull lan.And day 9 who is in charge of sc2 at redbull should have known not to collide with mlg.either way it hurts the scene to not have mlg.and redbull never organized anything of mlg scale/

Ok, lets assume that already happened, they refused to agree and Blizzard picked Redbull because they have a better relationship with them(Rob Simpson). And I bet the Redbull is up to the challenge of hyping the event so people will watch it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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MaxViktory
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden136 Posts
August 09 2013 16:39 GMT
#32
I think this is GOOD, in one way. Redbull should know approximately when MLG does their thing (right? don't they do it around the same time every year?) which should mean that they knew they would take it from MLG which should mean that they are planning to do it even bigger, greater, grander, and with an even opener bracket with even more kespa koreans!

I think we can have nice things even though we throw shit at Blizzard whenever anything positive/negative happens in the starcraft scene.

More on topic (blaming the company giving us nice things for everything except WWII); is the grass really greener on the otherside? I have never been to a forum for dota and lol fans, do they blame Riot and Valve for a bunch of random shit or do they glorify them as much as the starcraft community?
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:40:48
August 09 2013 16:40 GMT
#33
I expected people to be saying things like

"Wooooahh! Sneaky sneaky!"

and instead it's all

"WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAAAAAAAH!"

TL is funny.
I suppose I'd rather RedBull as hosts too, to be honest.
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Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
August 09 2013 16:40 GMT
#34
This is actually pretty funny. I think MLG guys like to troll the starcraft community, like with the stage thing in the last one.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 09 2013 16:43 GMT
#35
Wooohoooo we're not dead, we're actually more alive than we knew!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 09 2013 16:44 GMT
#36
On August 10 2013 01:35 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:34 babylon wrote:
MLG allegedly announced the dates for MLG Columbus at Anaheim. RB submitted their request first and got their license first. It's entirely possible RB just wanted to beat out a competitor, and/or they really didn't know MLG was going to hold Columbus on those dates. Whatever the case, it doesn't really matter, and I don't even think intentionally asking for a license for the same dates as MLG is wrong or anything ... in any case, I'm sure RB will put on a great event, and I just hope they invite some Korean players to participate. I don't think there's much more to be said.


pro players in the na scene have been yelling their hearts out about not being live events in the usa and now when they happen they overlap.this is bad no matter how you take it.and redbull never brought the numbers of mlg.

@plansix

you force them to agree otherwise choose the best option for the scene.mlg still brings in more viewers than redbull lan.And day 9 who is in charge of sc2 at redbull should have known not to collide with mlg.either way it hurts the scene to not have mlg.and redbull never organized anything of mlg scale/

I don't think RB or MLG are obligated to "support NA SC2," tbh. Even deciding to put on an event is very generous of them. If they conflict, then they conflict. Whatever. RB has put on good events in the past with good production. Sure, maybe they will not bring in as many viewers, but that's speculation. RB has enough resources at their disposal to build up the hype. If it falls flat, then it's all on them.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 09 2013 16:44 GMT
#37
On August 10 2013 01:24 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:22 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:20 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity

The studio Redbull has is pretty big. You don't know how big the event is going to be. You are speculating and blaming Blizzard for something they cannot control.


they can.it is their ip and they can change the rules of the game anytime and without annoucing.it event states in the contracts.and it is weird blizzard let this happen in the most struggling scene with only 2 big lans considering how much they throw #growsc2 around.

@novemberest @nuenergy

there are theonly 2 lans in the usa.how hard it is for blizzard to make sure thye do not overlap.i mean either redbull is ill intended or just bm.they collided with the hsc in europe last time and now they cancel an mlg.wtf.can't this dudes get their own dates?


I like the way they handled the HSC collision as they put their event on hold and told stream viewers who tuned in to watch that instead until it was finished.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:45:25
August 09 2013 16:44 GMT
#38
Oh man this just keeps getting better and better

wonder if RB picked the date on purpose
banelings
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
August 09 2013 16:46 GMT
#39
On August 10 2013 01:44 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:24 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:22 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:20 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity

The studio Redbull has is pretty big. You don't know how big the event is going to be. You are speculating and blaming Blizzard for something they cannot control.


they can.it is their ip and they can change the rules of the game anytime and without annoucing.it event states in the contracts.and it is weird blizzard let this happen in the most struggling scene with only 2 big lans considering how much they throw #growsc2 around.

@novemberest @nuenergy

there are theonly 2 lans in the usa.how hard it is for blizzard to make sure thye do not overlap.i mean either redbull is ill intended or just bm.they collided with the hsc in europe last time and now they cancel an mlg.wtf.can't this dudes get their own dates?


I like the way they handled the HSC collision as they put their event on hold and told stream viewers who tuned in to watch that instead until it was finished.


theu got 20k viewers for their final.mlg gets 120k

@plansix

try and find a sollution.i am sure that people there will be understanding.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:50:41
August 09 2013 16:50 GMT
#40
On August 10 2013 01:46 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:44 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:24 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:22 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:20 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity

The studio Redbull has is pretty big. You don't know how big the event is going to be. You are speculating and blaming Blizzard for something they cannot control.


they can.it is their ip and they can change the rules of the game anytime and without annoucing.it event states in the contracts.and it is weird blizzard let this happen in the most struggling scene with only 2 big lans considering how much they throw #growsc2 around.

@novemberest @nuenergy

there are theonly 2 lans in the usa.how hard it is for blizzard to make sure thye do not overlap.i mean either redbull is ill intended or just bm.they collided with the hsc in europe last time and now they cancel an mlg.wtf.can't this dudes get their own dates?


I like the way they handled the HSC collision as they put their event on hold and told stream viewers who tuned in to watch that instead until it was finished.


theu got 20k viewers for their final.mlg gets 120k

@plansix

try and find a sollution.i am sure that people there will be understanding.

Thats not an answer to a problem. You cannot force them to agree. MLG CANNOT chage their date and Redbull may not want to. If there is no solution, then you just pick one. And the viewer numbers reflected the scale of each event. The redbull lans were very low key and 20K is not bad for the number of people that attended. They have never attempted to throw an event of MLGs scope and I would like to see them try.
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