On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote: OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.
This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.
you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity
The studio Redbull has is pretty big. You don't know how big the event is going to be. You are speculating and blaming Blizzard for something they cannot control.
they can.it is their ip and they can change the rules of the game anytime and without annoucing.it event states in the contracts.and it is weird blizzard let this happen in the most struggling scene with only 2 big lans considering how much they throw #growsc2 around.
@novemberest @nuenergy
there are theonly 2 lans in the usa.how hard it is for blizzard to make sure thye do not overlap.i mean either redbull is ill intended or just bm.they collided with the hsc in europe last time and now they cancel an mlg.wtf.can't this dudes get their own dates?
I like the way they handled the HSC collision as they put their event on hold and told stream viewers who tuned in to watch that instead until it was finished.
theu got 20k viewers for their final.mlg gets 120k
@plansix
try and find a sollution.i am sure that people there will be understanding.
20k for their final that was the same weekend as DH which undoubtedly had an effect even in different time zones
".@SirScoots @MLG Red Bull is the only company to have requested a license for that weekend. It's an open, non-exclusive weekend. "
Well then, that is intresting. I guess Redbull wants what MLG does not. I think the community should go into dumped girlfriend mode and just say "Fine, we don't need you! We can have anyone run our events!"
Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them?
Maybe Mlg just knows of RB's plan and decided its not worth it to make a competing tournament that weekend. why is everyone making this so much more complicated!!
On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them?
They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times.
On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them?
It splits the viewership for a region and hurts both sides. A lot of professional sports do this to avoid eat away at eachother. Its why all sports run in seasons and why all regions do not carry all games(unless you pay the league for one of those cable packages). It is very standard in professional sports.
On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them?
They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times.
Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license.
Adam Apicella @MrAdamAp
@SirScoots WHAT BAD PR FOR SSNN!
Scott Smith @SirScoots
@MrAdamAp I think the afternoon shareholders call is gonna be a bitch! Heads will roll!
On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them?
Isn't that only true for WCS events? Note the "non-exclusive" part:
".@SirScoots @MLG Red Bull is the only company to have requested a license for that weekend. It's an open, non-exclusive weekend. "
On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them?
They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times.
Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license.
Yup. So it's still bad news SC2 wise since now the future of SC2 MLG wise is shaky. While it is good that RB is hosting a tournament it is also bad to lose a tournament host like MLG.
On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them?
They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times.
Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license.
On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them?
They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times.
Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license.
Yup. So it's still bad news SC2 wise since now the future of SC2 MLG wise is shaky. While it is good that RB is hosting a tournament it is also bad to lose a tournament host like MLG.
As much as I liked the past MLGs, I would like to see what Red Bull can do. MLG does great work, but at the end of the day they are all about fair weather games that are on the rise and are never going to build a full studio.
Some professional sport are run out of a staduim which is funded by a large company as a sponsor who gets their name up there all the time. Redbull could be that sponsor and have a studio for a number of Esports. With that equipment, NASL production crew and the players, what more could we want?
On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them?
They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times.
Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license.
@MrAdamAp I think the afternoon shareholders call is gonna be a bitch! Heads will roll!
Wow you extracted that much information from me joking with Scoots about his vulgar tweet? Impressive, you should apply to work for SSNN
It depends. I know what tweet you replied to, but a lot of people just hit reply to the newest tweet on a timeline and not necessarily replying to that tweet specifically. Your tweet could also be read as saying SSNN had a bad scoop by saying redbull got the license over mlg, when in fact mlg never requested a license in the first place.