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MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
August 09 2013 19:43 GMT
#121
On August 10 2013 04:37 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:29 MLG_Adam wrote:
Hey guys,

I wanted to stop back and apologize for the one line response earlier in this thread, I was in the middle of a million things and I was quickly replying to ensure that my copy and pasted tweets were not taken out of context (it was an odd thing to reference within this thread). I know this is a sensitive topic for everyone, and I should have known better than to come in without responding to any of the other questions or concerns that were being voiced. With that being said, I unfortunately do not have much more to add to the discussion. MLG will not be hosting an event the weekend of 11/22-11/24, but I'm sure there will be official announcements about other activity that weekend. If there is activity going on over that weekend, MLG will definitely reach out to the proper parties to offer any help/support we can. Sometimes action (or in this case inaction) is done with scene's best interest in mind.

I know this is an ambiguous post, but I did want to stop in and genuinely apologize for my post. Enjoy the WCS Regional Final bonanza this weekend!


Well I dunno why trying to pull info from MLG is like pulling teeth. You can clear this all up real simple and fast if you answer these questions.

1. Did MLG not request a license because they weren't planning to do sc2 in the first place, so there's no point in asking?

Yes/No

2. Did MLG not request a license only after finding out Redbull was planning an event that same weekend and therefore felt it didn't make business sense to compete for the same viewers and decided not to ask for a license given this info?

Yes/No

That is the only clarification people seek. It answers the question of whether or not MLG didn't want to do sc2 in the first place or whether MLG decided not to do sc2 only after they found out about redbull.



No title is 100% yet for Columbus, so #1 is not even relevant. However, we plan our calendar around other events so that #1 would not even be an issue. Unfortunately, there was a scheduling overlap with someone else that caught both parties unawares. We are working with that group to make the best of a shoddy situation.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
August 09 2013 19:43 GMT
#122
long live that drink!!

one of the great overall sponsors of the world strikes again!
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:55:52
August 09 2013 19:45 GMT
#123
On August 10 2013 04:41 Achaia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:24 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:22 Plansix wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:20 theking1 wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote:
OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.

This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.


you do not replace the biggest platform of sc2 in na with something a lot smaller in size,scale and publicity

The studio Redbull has is pretty big. You don't know how big the event is going to be. You are speculating and blaming Blizzard for something they cannot control.


they can.it is their ip and they can change the rules of the game anytime and without annoucing.it event states in the contracts.and it is weird blizzard let this happen in the most struggling scene with only 2 big lans considering how much they throw #growsc2 around.

@novemberest @nuenergy

there are theonly 2 lans in the usa.how hard it is for blizzard to make sure thye do not overlap.i mean either redbull is ill intended or just bm.they collided with the hsc in europe last time and now they cancel an mlg.wtf.can't this dudes get their own dates?


I have a feeling these scheduling overlaps are more to do with Blizzards "You can't broadcast over WCS" rule. That leaves very little time for other organizations to put on events since the three regions basically cover a huge chunk of air time.


No, the real reason is because redbull was not part of that esports co-operation panel at DH last year! Do you guys remember that? Where all the tourney organizers like sundance, david ting, dh dude, etc all got together and spoke about co-operation and sharing information dates more freely in order not to conflict? Well redbull was not there and so they obviously should have built a time machine to have a presence there because now they're not a part of the old boys club/network and out of the loop now with other tourneys.

On August 10 2013 04:43 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:37 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:29 MLG_Adam wrote:
Hey guys,

I wanted to stop back and apologize for the one line response earlier in this thread, I was in the middle of a million things and I was quickly replying to ensure that my copy and pasted tweets were not taken out of context (it was an odd thing to reference within this thread). I know this is a sensitive topic for everyone, and I should have known better than to come in without responding to any of the other questions or concerns that were being voiced. With that being said, I unfortunately do not have much more to add to the discussion. MLG will not be hosting an event the weekend of 11/22-11/24, but I'm sure there will be official announcements about other activity that weekend. If there is activity going on over that weekend, MLG will definitely reach out to the proper parties to offer any help/support we can. Sometimes action (or in this case inaction) is done with scene's best interest in mind.

I know this is an ambiguous post, but I did want to stop in and genuinely apologize for my post. Enjoy the WCS Regional Final bonanza this weekend!


Well I dunno why trying to pull info from MLG is like pulling teeth. You can clear this all up real simple and fast if you answer these questions.

1. Did MLG not request a license because they weren't planning to do sc2 in the first place, so there's no point in asking?

Yes/No

2. Did MLG not request a license only after finding out Redbull was planning an event that same weekend and therefore felt it didn't make business sense to compete for the same viewers and decided not to ask for a license given this info?

Yes/No

That is the only clarification people seek. It answers the question of whether or not MLG didn't want to do sc2 in the first place or whether MLG decided not to do sc2 only after they found out about redbull.



No title is 100% yet for Columbus, so #1 is not even relevant. However, we plan our calendar around other events so that #1 would not even be an issue. Unfortunately, there was a scheduling overlap with someone else that caught both parties unawares. We are working with that group to make the best of a shoddy situation.


Heh well I guess that's as close as a Yes answer to number 2 as we'll get and it'll have to do! I find it funny though that even with scoots and blizzard's comm manager stating that redbull requested that weekend, you still have to not mention them by name. I guess you have to officially keep it so MLG doesn't leak redbull's announcement even though everyone else in the world knows the unnamed party is redbull.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 09 2013 19:45 GMT
#124
idc who does it i just hope there is an open bracket >.<
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 09 2013 19:49 GMT
#125
Go Redbull!.
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
August 09 2013 19:51 GMT
#126
On August 10 2013 04:43 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:37 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:29 MLG_Adam wrote:
Hey guys,

I wanted to stop back and apologize for the one line response earlier in this thread, I was in the middle of a million things and I was quickly replying to ensure that my copy and pasted tweets were not taken out of context (it was an odd thing to reference within this thread). I know this is a sensitive topic for everyone, and I should have known better than to come in without responding to any of the other questions or concerns that were being voiced. With that being said, I unfortunately do not have much more to add to the discussion. MLG will not be hosting an event the weekend of 11/22-11/24, but I'm sure there will be official announcements about other activity that weekend. If there is activity going on over that weekend, MLG will definitely reach out to the proper parties to offer any help/support we can. Sometimes action (or in this case inaction) is done with scene's best interest in mind.

I know this is an ambiguous post, but I did want to stop in and genuinely apologize for my post. Enjoy the WCS Regional Final bonanza this weekend!


Well I dunno why trying to pull info from MLG is like pulling teeth. You can clear this all up real simple and fast if you answer these questions.

1. Did MLG not request a license because they weren't planning to do sc2 in the first place, so there's no point in asking?

Yes/No

2. Did MLG not request a license only after finding out Redbull was planning an event that same weekend and therefore felt it didn't make business sense to compete for the same viewers and decided not to ask for a license given this info?

Yes/No

That is the only clarification people seek. It answers the question of whether or not MLG didn't want to do sc2 in the first place or whether MLG decided not to do sc2 only after they found out about redbull.



No title is 100% yet for Columbus, so #1 is not even relevant. However, we plan our calendar around other events so that #1 would not even be an issue. Unfortunately, there was a scheduling overlap with someone else that caught both parties unawares. We are working with that group to make the best of a shoddy situation.

finally a decent answer.thank you adam.wow.if you would have given the answer in the first place you would have saved up thousands of comments on reddit and maybe keep some of your gold member subscribers to.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 09 2013 19:52 GMT
#127
gotta save those reddit comments for when we start running out
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
August 09 2013 19:55 GMT
#128
On August 10 2013 04:43 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:37 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:29 MLG_Adam wrote:
Hey guys,

I wanted to stop back and apologize for the one line response earlier in this thread, I was in the middle of a million things and I was quickly replying to ensure that my copy and pasted tweets were not taken out of context (it was an odd thing to reference within this thread). I know this is a sensitive topic for everyone, and I should have known better than to come in without responding to any of the other questions or concerns that were being voiced. With that being said, I unfortunately do not have much more to add to the discussion. MLG will not be hosting an event the weekend of 11/22-11/24, but I'm sure there will be official announcements about other activity that weekend. If there is activity going on over that weekend, MLG will definitely reach out to the proper parties to offer any help/support we can. Sometimes action (or in this case inaction) is done with scene's best interest in mind.

I know this is an ambiguous post, but I did want to stop in and genuinely apologize for my post. Enjoy the WCS Regional Final bonanza this weekend!


Well I dunno why trying to pull info from MLG is like pulling teeth. You can clear this all up real simple and fast if you answer these questions.

1. Did MLG not request a license because they weren't planning to do sc2 in the first place, so there's no point in asking?

Yes/No

2. Did MLG not request a license only after finding out Redbull was planning an event that same weekend and therefore felt it didn't make business sense to compete for the same viewers and decided not to ask for a license given this info?

Yes/No

That is the only clarification people seek. It answers the question of whether or not MLG didn't want to do sc2 in the first place or whether MLG decided not to do sc2 only after they found out about redbull.



No title is 100% yet for Columbus, so #1 is not even relevant. However, we plan our calendar around other events so that #1 would not even be an issue. Unfortunately, there was a scheduling overlap with someone else that caught both parties unawares. We are working with that group to make the best of a shoddy situation.

Perfect example of not actually answering questions?
Yes/No
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 09 2013 19:57 GMT
#129
On August 10 2013 04:55 DusTerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:43 MLG_Adam wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:37 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:29 MLG_Adam wrote:
Hey guys,

I wanted to stop back and apologize for the one line response earlier in this thread, I was in the middle of a million things and I was quickly replying to ensure that my copy and pasted tweets were not taken out of context (it was an odd thing to reference within this thread). I know this is a sensitive topic for everyone, and I should have known better than to come in without responding to any of the other questions or concerns that were being voiced. With that being said, I unfortunately do not have much more to add to the discussion. MLG will not be hosting an event the weekend of 11/22-11/24, but I'm sure there will be official announcements about other activity that weekend. If there is activity going on over that weekend, MLG will definitely reach out to the proper parties to offer any help/support we can. Sometimes action (or in this case inaction) is done with scene's best interest in mind.

I know this is an ambiguous post, but I did want to stop in and genuinely apologize for my post. Enjoy the WCS Regional Final bonanza this weekend!


Well I dunno why trying to pull info from MLG is like pulling teeth. You can clear this all up real simple and fast if you answer these questions.

1. Did MLG not request a license because they weren't planning to do sc2 in the first place, so there's no point in asking?

Yes/No

2. Did MLG not request a license only after finding out Redbull was planning an event that same weekend and therefore felt it didn't make business sense to compete for the same viewers and decided not to ask for a license given this info?

Yes/No

That is the only clarification people seek. It answers the question of whether or not MLG didn't want to do sc2 in the first place or whether MLG decided not to do sc2 only after they found out about redbull.



No title is 100% yet for Columbus, so #1 is not even relevant. However, we plan our calendar around other events so that #1 would not even be an issue. Unfortunately, there was a scheduling overlap with someone else that caught both parties unawares. We are working with that group to make the best of a shoddy situation.

Perfect example of not actually answering questions?
Yes/No

No, not at all. That is the honest information that is available right now. Just because it wasn't a yes or no does not mean it doesn't answer the question.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 09 2013 20:08 GMT
#130
these MLG vs. Redbull vs. Blizzard threads are really just nauseating to read.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 09 2013 20:10 GMT
#131
Just want to say that I appreciate you giving answers (even if vague) here, Adam. I know the community is a bitch sometimes, but know that in the bottom line most all really enjoy MLG SC2 weekend tournaments and that they'd be sorely missed if there were no more.
Get off my lawn, young punks
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
August 09 2013 20:29 GMT
#132
On August 10 2013 05:08 vult wrote:
these MLG vs. Redbull vs. Blizzard threads are really just nauseating to read.


So much complaining about anything and everything.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
August 09 2013 20:43 GMT
#133
good! im getting a little sick of MLG honestly
savior did nothing wrong
AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
August 09 2013 20:52 GMT
#134
I LOVE REDBULL ESPORTS. They are amazing.
i balance whine all the time.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 21:01:45
August 09 2013 21:00 GMT
#135
"Red bull gives you lings! (and marines and zealots)" (TM)

Blizzard should make a skin that makes marines and zealots float around with wings. And lings already have wings so they can get tiny halos.
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
August 09 2013 22:10 GMT
#136
On August 10 2013 04:43 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:37 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:29 MLG_Adam wrote:
Hey guys,

I wanted to stop back and apologize for the one line response earlier in this thread, I was in the middle of a million things and I was quickly replying to ensure that my copy and pasted tweets were not taken out of context (it was an odd thing to reference within this thread). I know this is a sensitive topic for everyone, and I should have known better than to come in without responding to any of the other questions or concerns that were being voiced. With that being said, I unfortunately do not have much more to add to the discussion. MLG will not be hosting an event the weekend of 11/22-11/24, but I'm sure there will be official announcements about other activity that weekend. If there is activity going on over that weekend, MLG will definitely reach out to the proper parties to offer any help/support we can. Sometimes action (or in this case inaction) is done with scene's best interest in mind.

I know this is an ambiguous post, but I did want to stop in and genuinely apologize for my post. Enjoy the WCS Regional Final bonanza this weekend!


Well I dunno why trying to pull info from MLG is like pulling teeth. You can clear this all up real simple and fast if you answer these questions.

1. Did MLG not request a license because they weren't planning to do sc2 in the first place, so there's no point in asking?

Yes/No

2. Did MLG not request a license only after finding out Redbull was planning an event that same weekend and therefore felt it didn't make business sense to compete for the same viewers and decided not to ask for a license given this info?

Yes/No

That is the only clarification people seek. It answers the question of whether or not MLG didn't want to do sc2 in the first place or whether MLG decided not to do sc2 only after they found out about redbull.



No title is 100% yet for Columbus, so #1 is not even relevant. However, we plan our calendar around other events so that #1 would not even be an issue. Unfortunately, there was a scheduling overlap with someone else that caught both parties unawares. We are working with that group to make the best of a shoddy situation.


Is it true that Blizzard was the only company not paying MLG to have SC2 in their tournaments? I'd feel you guys could save yourself from a lot of negativity by simply stating this.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
August 09 2013 22:22 GMT
#137
I wanna thank canucklehead for asking the questions and adam for answering(kinda) them.
banelings
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
August 09 2013 22:27 GMT
#138
Dumb question - why can't there be 2 SC2 events at the same time?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 09 2013 22:31 GMT
#139
This thread sucks. I dont even get what it is about, as I dont follow things that closely anymore. Which license?
Off-season = best season
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
August 09 2013 22:34 GMT
#140
On August 10 2013 07:27 Odoakar wrote:
Dumb question - why can't there be 2 SC2 events at the same time?


Because then you split viewers.

Still can't tell if MLG is being nice here or just using it as a convenient excuse though...
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