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On August 10 2013 02:28 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:22 Canucklehead wrote:On August 10 2013 02:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them? They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times. Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license. Adam Apicella @MrAdamAp @SirScoots WHAT BAD PR FOR SSNN! Scott Smith @SirScoots @MrAdamAp I think the afternoon shareholders call is gonna be a bitch! Heads will roll! Wow you extracted that much information from me joking with Scoots about his vulgar tweet? Impressive, you should apply to work for SSNN
your company needs pr lessons.like really bad.
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On August 10 2013 02:29 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:25 leo23 wrote:On August 10 2013 02:22 Canucklehead wrote:On August 10 2013 02:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them? They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times. Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license. Yup. So it's still bad news SC2 wise since now the future of SC2 MLG wise is shaky. While it is good that RB is hosting a tournament it is also bad to lose a tournament host like MLG. As much as I liked the past MLGs, I would like to see what Red Bull can do. MLG does great work, but at the end of the day they are all about fair weather games that are on the rise and are never going to build a full studio. Some professional sport are run out of a staduim which is funded by a large company as a sponsor who gets their name up there all the time. Redbull could be that sponsor and have a studio for a number of Esports. With that equipment, NASL production crew and the players, what more could we want?
I completely agree with you. I was just noting that while RB has a promising future in SC2, you cannot deny that losing MLG as part of the year long SC2 schedule also hurts.
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On August 10 2013 02:28 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:22 Canucklehead wrote:On August 10 2013 02:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them? They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times. Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license. https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/365884859052326913 Adam Apicella @MrAdamAp @SirScoots WHAT BAD PR FOR SSNN! https://twitter.com/SirScoots/status/365885080931020801 Scott Smith @SirScoots @MrAdamAp I think the afternoon shareholders call is gonna be a bitch! Heads will roll! Wow you extracted that much information from me joking with Scoots about his vulgar tweet? Impressive, you should apply to work for SSNN Lol this is literally the worst response you can come up with as somebody from MLG
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On August 10 2013 02:28 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:22 Canucklehead wrote:On August 10 2013 02:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them? They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times. Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license. https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/365884859052326913 Adam Apicella @MrAdamAp @SirScoots WHAT BAD PR FOR SSNN! https://twitter.com/SirScoots/status/365885080931020801 Scott Smith @SirScoots @MrAdamAp I think the afternoon shareholders call is gonna be a bitch! Heads will roll! Wow you extracted that much information from me joking with Scoots about his vulgar tweet? Impressive, you should apply to work for SSNN Well Adam, as much as I support you folks in the past, you are leaving us to fill in the blanks. If Sunny hadn't sent out that sort of half assed tweet, we wouldn't be here.
Just be honest and up front about this stuff. Say you got a better offer for a game or there isn't enough room at the venue or whatever is the real reason. Say you guys want to do SC2 for the next MLG. But if you leave us to fill in the blanks, you might get stuff that isn't true.
On August 10 2013 02:31 theking1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:28 MLG_Adam wrote:On August 10 2013 02:22 Canucklehead wrote:On August 10 2013 02:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them? They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times. Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license. https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/365884859052326913 Adam Apicella @MrAdamAp @SirScoots WHAT BAD PR FOR SSNN! https://twitter.com/SirScoots/status/365885080931020801 Scott Smith @SirScoots @MrAdamAp I think the afternoon shareholders call is gonna be a bitch! Heads will roll! Wow you extracted that much information from me joking with Scoots about his vulgar tweet? Impressive, you should apply to work for SSNN your company needs pr lessons.like really bad.
I am going to agree with you on this one. Both Adam and Sunny care a lot about games and professional gaming, but they wear their hearts on their sleeve to often. They need to pull it back and get a filter on some of this stuff.
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Is SSNN the Sir Scoots News Network??
So mlg still dropping sc2 for columbo, we'll see next event if it's gone for good
And change the title please, it's false..
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Since it doesn't seem to be the case that Red Bull booked it "instead" of MLG can we change the title or close the thread so it doesn't create more rumors?
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On August 10 2013 02:33 Prplppleatr wrote: Is SSNN the Sir Scoots News Network??
So mlg still dropping sc2 for columbo, we'll see next event if it's gone for good
I thought it was Slasher Slasher News Network. Moreover, this community breaks news via twitter anyway -- well not all the time, but it happens.
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On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote: OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.
This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events.
Call a spade a spade man. This is a mix of good and bad news, a lot of us are upset because MLG is an awesome event. Hopefully Redbull will run a big event with an Open Bracket too.
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On August 10 2013 02:28 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:22 Canucklehead wrote:On August 10 2013 02:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them? They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times. Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license. https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/365884859052326913 Adam Apicella @MrAdamAp @SirScoots WHAT BAD PR FOR SSNN! https://twitter.com/SirScoots/status/365885080931020801 Scott Smith @SirScoots @MrAdamAp I think the afternoon shareholders call is gonna be a bitch! Heads will roll! Wow you extracted that much information from me joking with Scoots about his vulgar tweet? Impressive, you should apply to work for SSNN
C'mon Adam. If you are reading this thread, and actually posting in it, instead of finger-pointing at some of the posts that may be speculating, why not just use the opportunity to actually set the record straight and explain what the situation is.
What is the point in mocking posts that may be uninformed? Why not just inform us instead? Then these speculative posts won't be made. If rumours irk you, why not just set the record straight?
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This mess probably started before Blizzard and MLG parted ways on their WCS agreement. The behind the scenes politics that went on between MLG and Blizzard is probably too much for Sundance. Adam, and Blizzard CMs to go into.
As has been mentioned by others, there is no money to be made at NA live events so politics can easily derail things. We'll probably never know the political stuff behind the scenes. But, as long as there is no money to be made by the event host its all just meaningless gossip.
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On August 10 2013 02:40 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:28 MLG_Adam wrote:On August 10 2013 02:22 Canucklehead wrote:On August 10 2013 02:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:On August 10 2013 02:15 opisska wrote: Even thoug it now seems that it is not the case, I still wonder why whould Blizzard not "allow" two tournaments at the same time. I mean, why should they even be upset with that? How does it hurt them? They don't want tournaments bumping heads, viewer wise especially when they would most likely be at similar times. Blizz comm manager clarified it. It's a non exclusive weekend and two events running at the same time is fine for them. MLG did not request a license and only redbull did. So it's status quo from yesterday now. MLG wasn't planning on doing sc2 in the first place, so never requested a license. https://twitter.com/MrAdamAp/status/365884859052326913 Adam Apicella @MrAdamAp @SirScoots WHAT BAD PR FOR SSNN! https://twitter.com/SirScoots/status/365885080931020801 Scott Smith @SirScoots @MrAdamAp I think the afternoon shareholders call is gonna be a bitch! Heads will roll! Wow you extracted that much information from me joking with Scoots about his vulgar tweet? Impressive, you should apply to work for SSNN C'mon Adam. If you are reading this thread, and actually posting in it, instead of finger-pointing at some of the posts that may be speculating, why not just use the opportunity to actually set the record straight and explain what the situation is. What is the point in mocking posts that may be uninformed? Why not just inform us instead? Then these speculative posts won't be made. If rumours irk you, why not just set the record straight? He doesn't understand the magnitude of the events transpiring across the ESPORTS network (twitter and forums).
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On August 10 2013 02:39 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 01:18 Plansix wrote: OMG, we get good news about events and that we are really missing out on nothing and somehow we turn it into the a hate on Blizzard thread.
This is why we can't have nice things. Instead of being exicited about an upcomming event we didn't know about, we are complaining because we thing we should get two events. Call a spade a spade man. This is a mix of good and bad news, a lot of us are upset because MLG is an awesome event. Hopefully Redbull will run a big event with an Open Bracket too. Except that OP is wrong(due to information we found out later):
A: There was not conflict between MLG and Redbull. MLG was not requesting anything for that weekend.
B: We don't know anything about the event, so why complain about what we don't know.
C: Where is the bad news beyond the fact that MLG is not carrying SC2 for their next event, but has stated they would like to cover SC2 in the future.
So I was calling a spade and spade. We received good news, looked for bad news and most of the bad news we complained about was wrong.
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On August 10 2013 02:34 Prime Directive wrote: Since it doesn't seem to be the case that Red Bull booked it "instead" of MLG can we change the title or close the thread so it doesn't create more rumors?
This please,close topic, or change title.
Blizzards Cloaken, confirmed that MLG did not even ask, for a license, only Red Bull did.
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If true then Blizzard is completely trash at everything related to ESports, losing NA's biggest lan to do another small Redbull studio gig is such a mindboggling terrible idea.
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On August 10 2013 02:45 TheButtonmen wrote: If true then Blizzard is completely trash at everything related to ESports, losing NA's biggest lan to do another small Redbull studio gig is such a mindboggling terrible idea. Are you incapable to read? MLG just didn't want to host an event.
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On August 10 2013 02:44 Plansix wrote: C: Where is the bad news beyond the fact that MLG is not carrying SC2 for their next event, but has stated they would like to cover SC2 in the future.
So I was calling a spade and spade. We received good news, looked for bad news and most of the bad news we complained about was wrong.
The good news we received was that MLG didn't want to run an event in the first place?
I'm pretty bummed MLG won't carry SC2... it would have been better if there was a conflict and Blizzard was working it out or something.
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On August 10 2013 02:46 Ventris wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:45 TheButtonmen wrote: If true then Blizzard is completely trash at everything related to ESports, losing NA's biggest lan to do another small Redbull studio gig is such a mindboggling terrible idea. Are you incapable to read? MLG just didn't want to host an event. But that is Blizzard's fault due to WCS or something.... Damn it we don't need to throw around blame during a break up. They just need time apart and maybe that will remember why they were together in the first place.
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And the other half of the NA scene is saved by Red Bull! Glad to see Red Bull taking the initiative to support eSports at this time, and taking up the mantle that MLG historically had.
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