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IMplying
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany58 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 11:04:37
July 01 2013 11:03 GMT
#1
International:

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Data from:

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All Premier Tournaments
All Major Tournaments
All Direct Qualifiers to Premier Tournaments (this does not include Qualifiers for Qualifiers *only incl. later stages)
All Premier Teamleagues (GSTL, ATC and PL)
All Monthly Finals (Go4SC2 and Zotac Top 16, no weekly tournaments)


KR only:

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Data from:

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OSL
GSL
PL
OSL Qualifiers (Ro8+)
Kespa MLG Qualifiers (Ro16+)
GSTL
HSC VII KR Qualifiers (Ro16+)


Note: I did not create these, ChaosTerran from the Starcraft Reddit did, all credit goes to him.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
July 01 2013 11:05 GMT
#2
As I posted in the DB thread, I'll repeat here:

A pretty low number of games. Around 300 per MU. I would have expected more fluctuation due to the numbers.

The Korean sub 100 MU's show's greater fluctuation. But still remains roughly balanced.

Nice to see all the MU's are nicely balanced, and that's roughly the feel you get from watching tournaments too. We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.

Thanks to ChaosTerran.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
effecto
Profile Joined February 2011
France142 Posts
July 01 2013 11:07 GMT
#3
Wow everything looks really well balanced ! That's nice!
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 13:06:55
July 01 2013 11:10 GMT
#4
On July 01 2013 20:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.

edited:
The curse is real
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 01 2013 11:12 GMT
#5
On July 01 2013 20:10 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 20:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.


We have??

I find it really interesting that the MU are less balanced in Korea compares to the rest of the world.
Was the same in WoL if I'm not mistaken.

Stardust won Dreamhack and HerO won WCS AM
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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
July 01 2013 11:12 GMT
#6
On July 01 2013 20:10 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 20:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.


We have??

I find it really interesting that the MU are less balanced in Korea compares to the rest of the world.
Was the same in WoL if I'm not mistaken.


Recently Stardust and HerO won tournaments. With sOs, First and Naniwa taking second.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 11:13:57
July 01 2013 11:13 GMT
#7
Arise of the Korean protoss!! Nice, winning every match up. Can't believe Zs have a slightly better win rate in TvZ though, thought Ts were still good.

Oh that PvT dominance might get bigger in July as well :S

(I only look at Korea win rates..)
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 01 2013 11:14 GMT
#8
On July 01 2013 20:13 Pandemona wrote:
Arise of the Korean protoss!! Nice, winning every match up. Can't believe Zs have a slightly better win rate in TvZ though, thought Ts were still good.

(I only look at Korea win rates..)

most of the data probably comes from PvProleague and there also seems to be a higher number of successful zergs in kespa than successful terrans
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 01 2013 11:15 GMT
#9
True Shellbot...but....Pie charts never lie :333333
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
July 01 2013 11:15 GMT
#10
On July 01 2013 20:12 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 20:10 Tobblish wrote:
On July 01 2013 20:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.


We have??

I find it really interesting that the MU are less balanced in Korea compares to the rest of the world.
Was the same in WoL if I'm not mistaken.


Recently Stardust and HerO won tournaments. With sOs, First and Naniwa taking second.


On July 01 2013 20:12 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 20:10 Tobblish wrote:
On July 01 2013 20:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.


We have??

I find it really interesting that the MU are less balanced in Korea compares to the rest of the world.
Was the same in WoL if I'm not mistaken.

Stardust won Dreamhack and HerO won WCS AM


Had the biggest brain drop haha thought we were on a totally different month.
Time for some coffee! ^_^
The curse is real
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
July 01 2013 11:16 GMT
#11
HAH! Finally Terrans are no longer winning more than 50% of non-mirror matchups! In your face, hellbat haters! Looks like it won't be nerfed soon! XD
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
July 01 2013 11:19 GMT
#12
so short span of time. Doesn't matter much tho
AKMU / IU
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 11:29:47
July 01 2013 11:28 GMT
#13
Here are the Aligulac numbers for comparison.

TvZ: 52.6% (1151 games)
PvZ: 49.5% (1423 games)
PvT: 48.3% (965 games)

The most balanced month since the release of HotS in all matchups. (Well ok, it's 0.2% off in PvZ.)
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Saumure
Profile Joined February 2012
France404 Posts
July 01 2013 11:30 GMT
#14
On July 01 2013 20:16 Clazziquai10 wrote:
HAH! Finally Terrans are no longer winning more than 50% of non-mirror matchups! In your face, hellbat haters! Looks like it won't be nerfed soon! XD

Too bad it is still way to eazy on non pro level
I am happy to see more Protoss win tournaments
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3380 Posts
July 01 2013 11:33 GMT
#15
On July 01 2013 20:16 Clazziquai10 wrote:
HAH! Finally Terrans are no longer winning more than 50% of non-mirror matchups! In your face, hellbat haters! Looks like it won't be nerfed soon! XD

Don't be so sure.
If it's not OP then it ruins match-ups.
Blizzard will cave in sooner or later.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 01 2013 11:33 GMT
#16
On July 01 2013 20:16 Clazziquai10 wrote:
HAH! Finally Terrans are no longer winning more than 50% of non-mirror matchups! In your face, hellbat haters! Looks like it won't be nerfed soon! XD


They nerfed ghost when TvZ had the best winrates ever so for Blizzard, balance is not only criteria. David Kim already said that they also care about matchups being fun to watch and not one - dimensional so I think they will nerf hellbats despite stats showing balance.

But hopefully they wont make the same mistake as with ghosts, even a small nerf could do a lot to help defend hellbat drops.
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 11:38:49
July 01 2013 11:36 GMT
#17
Wow, haha, that totally doesn't correspond from what I see in games .
I haven't thought zvp and pvt were so bad in korea, maybe those are just proleague maps.
Zvt is strange, maybe terrans haven't accustomed to roachbane busts yet. They should be again above 55% fast though.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
July 01 2013 11:40 GMT
#18
On July 01 2013 20:10 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 20:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.


We have??

I find it really interesting that the MU are less balanced in Korea compares to the rest of the world.
Was the same in WoL if I'm not mistaken.


Sample size.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 01 2013 11:42 GMT
#19
tell the guy on reddit not to use 3d graphics for his pie charts, it breaks the area principle ;p
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
July 01 2013 11:45 GMT
#20
terran op nerf pls
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