EPTJune Winrates - Page 2
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Railgan
Switzerland1509 Posts
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
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iyasq8
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DifuntO
Greece2376 Posts
On July 01 2013 20:16 Clazziquai10 wrote: HAH! Finally Terrans are no longer winning more than 50% of non-mirror matchups! In your face, hellbat haters! Looks like it won't be nerfed soon! XD If a hellbat nerf were to happen it would be cause of TvT not the other matchups.I'm pretty sure that's why we haven't seen any nerfs yet,they are trying to figure out how to do it without affecting TvZ and TvP much. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On July 01 2013 21:02 DarkLordOlli wrote: I find it weird that protoss is statistically doing so well without ever winning anything at the absolute highest level. Not counting WCS AM because HerO was just better than everybody else. Yes when you are better than everybody else on a tournament, you win. | ||
MattD
United Kingdom83 Posts
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pmp10
3399 Posts
On July 01 2013 21:00 DifuntO wrote: If a hellbat nerf were to happen it would be cause of TvT not the other matchups.I'm pretty sure that's why we haven't seen any nerfs yet,they are trying to figure out how to do it without affecting TvZ and TvP much. Since SCVs have more health it would be child's play to set hellbat damage so it could 2-shoot drones and probes but not SCVs. If hellbat change will come it will affect much more than just the mirror match-up. | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On July 01 2013 21:02 DarkLordOlli wrote: I find it weird that protoss is statistically doing so well without ever winning anything at the absolute highest level. Not counting WCS AM because HerO was just better than everybody else. If 256 people enter a tournament with ~1/3 of each race, and the Top 16 features 8 Protoss but none of them are in the top 4 positions, then Protoss is still doing very well statistically. The community places a disproportionate amount of focus on tournament wins, when really everything in the Top 8/16 is important. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On July 01 2013 21:10 MattD wrote: Percentages don't mean that much, in WoL PvZ was close to 50%, doesn't mean it was balanced. You're right, let us never discuss percentages again because WoL PvZ managed to keep is balanced while being utterly broken. Seriously, take 5 minutes to check out the current meta and you'll know that none of the match-ups compare to WoL PvZ, making posts like this pointless. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On July 01 2013 21:02 DarkLordOlli wrote: I find it weird that protoss is statistically doing so well without ever winning anything at the absolute highest level. Not counting WCS AM because HerO was just better than everybody else. Oh boy I lol'd so hard... Spoken like a true HerO fanboy... Top 8 were more or less in the same ballpark in terms of skill, with top 4 being fairly equal. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On July 01 2013 21:17 Bagi wrote: You're right, let us never discuss percentages again because WoL PvZ managed to keep is balanced while being utterly broken. Seriously, take 5 minutes to check out the current meta and you'll know that none of the match-ups compare to WoL PvZ, making posts like this pointless. Well, they kind of started to with stale swarmhost use every lategame for Z, but I don't recall seeing that so much more recently, so hopefully it's become less prevalent. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On July 01 2013 21:19 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Oh boy I lol'd so hard... Spoken like a true HerO fanboy... Top 8 were more or less in the same ballpark in terms of skill, with top 4 being fairly equal. Not the place to discuss this. Not that I'd care about your opinion if we discussed it anywhere else. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On July 01 2013 21:23 DarkLordOlli wrote: Not the place to discuss this. Not that I'd even care about your opinion if we discussed it anywhere else. Then why should anyone care about your opinion that you shamelessly state as though it were an indisputable fact and then refuse to bring arguments in its favor?  | ||
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Big G
Italy835 Posts
On July 01 2013 20:54 iyasq8 wrote: what about lower level players win rate? Blizzard has provided some statistics in that regard only a couple times since 2010, just to say that "balance overall seems good" or something like that. If they don't do it now, we can only assume that the winrates are pretty volatile and debatable. Anyway, I guess sites like sc2ranks can sift through each profile to catch the winrates... it would be cool to have global statistics based on that. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On July 01 2013 21:24 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Then why should anyone care about your opinion that you shamelessly state as though it were an indisputable fact and then refuse to bring arguments in its favor? I didn't say anyone had to care about it. I said I wasn't counting WCS AM because HerO was the best player there. Feel free to think differently. However the only one so far who took the time to be a jackass about my personal opinion was you. Good on you? Be proud. User was warned for this post | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On July 01 2013 21:26 DarkLordOlli wrote: I didn't say anyone had to care about it. The only one so far who took the time to be a jackass about my personal opinion was you. Good on you? Be proud. You're hilarious son. I'm a jackass because I called you out on an unreasonably fanboy-ish opinion? Whatever, you know it's an argument you can't win and you're just trying to claim some sort of perceived moral highground. Good luck with that, I'm done here. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On July 01 2013 21:27 MasterOfPuppets wrote: You're hilarious son. I'm a jackass because I called you out on an unreasonably fanboy-ish opinion? Whatever, you know it's an argument you can't win and you're just trying to claim some sort of perceived moral highground. Good luck with that, I'm done here. Later yo. I could just call you out the same way for believing that HerO wasn't the best player there but what's the point. It's all opinions in the end. Feel free to disagree but "loling so hard" makes you a jackass. Taking the moral highground, coming from someone whose post count is mostly composed of hanging around the Automated Ban List thread making fun of others for being banned and the occasional attack on Nerchio in LR threads is rather ironic. | ||
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thezanursic
5500 Posts
On July 01 2013 20:36 Tuczniak wrote: Wow, haha, that totally doesn't correspond from what I see in games  . I haven't thought zvp and pvt were so bad in korea, maybe those are just proleague maps. Zvt is strange, maybe terrans haven't accustomed to roachbane busts yet. They should be again above 55% fast though. 55% isn't a big imbalance. | ||
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GhostOwl
766 Posts
HoTS has messed up balance heavily...and it's currently a big mess right now. | ||
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