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International:
+ Show Spoiler +
Data from:
+ Show Spoiler +All Premier Tournaments
All Major Tournaments
All Direct Qualifiers to Premier Tournaments (this does not include Qualifiers for Qualifiers *only incl. later stages)
All Premier Teamleagues (GSTL, ATC and PL)
All Monthly Finals (Go4SC2 and Zotac Top 16, no weekly tournaments)
KR only:
+ Show Spoiler +
Data from:
+ Show Spoiler +OSL
GSL
PL
OSL Qualifiers (Ro8+)
Kespa MLG Qualifiers (Ro16+)
GSTL
HSC VII KR Qualifiers (Ro16+)
Note: I did not create these, ChaosTerran from the Starcraft Reddit did, all credit goes to him.
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As I posted in the DB thread, I'll repeat here:
A pretty low number of games. Around 300 per MU. I would have expected more fluctuation due to the numbers.
The Korean sub 100 MU's show's greater fluctuation. But still remains roughly balanced.
Nice to see all the MU's are nicely balanced, and that's roughly the feel you get from watching tournaments too. We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.
Thanks to ChaosTerran.
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Wow everything looks really well balanced ! That's nice!
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On July 01 2013 20:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.
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On July 01 2013 20:10 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 20:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.
We have?? I find it really interesting that the MU are less balanced in Korea compares to the rest of the world. Was the same in WoL if I'm not mistaken.
Stardust won Dreamhack and HerO won WCS AM
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On July 01 2013 20:10 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 20:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.
We have?? I find it really interesting that the MU are less balanced in Korea compares to the rest of the world. Was the same in WoL if I'm not mistaken.
Recently Stardust and HerO won tournaments. With sOs, First and Naniwa taking second.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Arise of the Korean protoss!! Nice, winning every match up. Can't believe Zs have a slightly better win rate in TvZ though, thought Ts were still good.
Oh that PvT dominance might get bigger in July as well :S
(I only look at Korea win rates..)
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On July 01 2013 20:13 Pandemona wrote:
Arise of the Korean protoss!! Nice, winning every match up. Can't believe Zs have a slightly better win rate in TvZ though, thought Ts were still good.
(I only look at Korea win rates..)
most of the data probably comes from PvProleague and there also seems to be a higher number of successful zergs in kespa than successful terrans
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
True Shellbot...but....Pie charts never lie :333333
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On July 01 2013 20:12 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 20:10 Tobblish wrote:On July 01 2013 20:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.
We have?? I find it really interesting that the MU are less balanced in Korea compares to the rest of the world. Was the same in WoL if I'm not mistaken. Recently Stardust and HerO won tournaments. With sOs, First and Naniwa taking second.
On July 01 2013 20:12 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 20:10 Tobblish wrote:On July 01 2013 20:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.
We have?? I find it really interesting that the MU are less balanced in Korea compares to the rest of the world. Was the same in WoL if I'm not mistaken. Stardust won Dreamhack and HerO won WCS AM
Had the biggest brain drop haha thought we were on a totally different month.
Time for some coffee! ^_^
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HAH! Finally Terrans are no longer winning more than 50% of non-mirror matchups! In your face, hellbat haters! Looks like it won't be nerfed soon! XD
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so short span of time. Doesn't matter much tho
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Here are the Aligulac numbers for comparison.
TvZ: 52.6% (1151 games)
PvZ: 49.5% (1423 games)
PvT: 48.3% (965 games)
The most balanced month since the release of HotS in all matchups. (Well ok, it's 0.2% off in PvZ.)
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On July 01 2013 20:16 Clazziquai10 wrote:
HAH! Finally Terrans are no longer winning more than 50% of non-mirror matchups! In your face, hellbat haters! Looks like it won't be nerfed soon! XD
Too bad it is still way to eazy on non pro level
I am happy to see more Protoss win tournaments 
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On July 01 2013 20:16 Clazziquai10 wrote:
HAH! Finally Terrans are no longer winning more than 50% of non-mirror matchups! In your face, hellbat haters! Looks like it won't be nerfed soon! XD
Don't be so sure.
If it's not OP then it ruins match-ups.
Blizzard will cave in sooner or later.
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On July 01 2013 20:16 Clazziquai10 wrote:
HAH! Finally Terrans are no longer winning more than 50% of non-mirror matchups! In your face, hellbat haters! Looks like it won't be nerfed soon! XD
They nerfed ghost when TvZ had the best winrates ever so for Blizzard, balance is not only criteria. David Kim already said that they also care about matchups being fun to watch and not one - dimensional so I think they will nerf hellbats despite stats showing balance.
But hopefully they wont make the same mistake as with ghosts, even a small nerf could do a lot to help defend hellbat drops.
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Wow, haha, that totally doesn't correspond from what I see in games .
I haven't thought zvp and pvt were so bad in korea, maybe those are just proleague maps.
Zvt is strange, maybe terrans haven't accustomed to roachbane busts yet. They should be again above 55% fast though.
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On July 01 2013 20:10 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 20:05 Ghanburighan wrote:
We've had a whole lot of P, T and Z win tournaments recently.
We have?? I find it really interesting that the MU are less balanced in Korea compares to the rest of the world. Was the same in WoL if I'm not mistaken.
Sample size.
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tell the guy on reddit not to use 3d graphics for his pie charts, it breaks the area principle ;p
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