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Also this: On June 21 2013 11:14 slOosh wrote: What happens if Marv is scum? So what happens if sloosh just vanishes? | ||
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On June 21 2013 14:45 yamato77 wrote: This is the kind of thing I expect out of a scum Shiao. go ahead and try lynching me then <3 | ||
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##vote: goodkarma oh yamato is nullish dude who looks scummy if that clarification was needed | ||
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I am thinking you are blowing this way out of proportion | ||
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On June 21 2013 23:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you agree you were saying something just for sake of saying something? The post I did was in order to verify if my impression of yamatos play is shared by everyone or at least some of the other players. so no that post was not only for the sake of saying something. On June 21 2013 23:14 marvellosity wrote: When have you played with yamato that has given you this impression? Cannot pin point it to a certain game right now, would have to look in his game history again, but it is more I always feel like wanting to shoot him for some posts he does. take it as you want, I am really dont feel like like searching for specifics right now. Now on GK: The case on oats is bad since I have not seen anything really alignment indicative from oats right now. gk is just using oats playstyle against him to look contributing and scumhunting, usual scum motivation stuff. His play also feels a lot like I swear this is normal mini mafia, which just ended recently and where I and gk were scum. (minus the inactive replacement shenanis) Also gk is most surely familiar with oats' play so taking this "easy" target is something I think is clearly scummotivated | ||
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On June 22 2013 00:15 marvellosity wrote: Ok, but basically as far as I can tell you said bullshit with no basis. I like to think my mafia memory is pretty decent even in games I've not played in, and I can't really remember you two playing together much, if at all. So where I'm at is that you said some bullshit to passively-aggressively say that yamato was 'looking' scummy, without even actually saying he was scummy. /le sigh And here I thought I could just sit around on friday evening and drink my beer in peace, let me go search the game history again | ||
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Now that I have checked them, we actually did not play as same alignment. But yeah, thats some leftover feelings from there. | ||
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On June 22 2013 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: The case on Oats is bad for sure. I'm just trying to figure out if it's scum!GK or town!GK doing this. You seem to be sure of him being scum because you have voted for him. It does not matter if GK has done this as scum, the question you did not answer is do you have evidence that he has not done this as town? Is your meta-case valid or not? I think mainly based on gut feeling and comparison with the last game as scum we had together. Cant remember the last time goodkarma rolled town with me playing as well. Also you just objectively judged that the case is terribad, so why do you need so much meta? Meta is much more of a helpful factor in my opinion not necessarily the argument to get somebody lynched. So I see gk doing that case on oats which is scummy as shit and then compare it to his play in I swear, I think its similar so it reinforces my scumread on him... To be honest I don't even know what your problem is | ||
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I was deciding whether to put him into scum camp or null because of his playstyle. Look at oats for example, he is somebody whose play regardless of alignment is at first glance pretty similar, so if a player like oats does something scummy I accept it as part of his usual behaviour of inconsistency etc. and do not focus too much of it until I see a clearer scumtell from my point of view. With yamato I had left over feeling that he was scummy either way, coupled with his posts which are scummy if you look at them isolated without prior knowledge of his play. I thought: hmm maybe he is more a oats kind of player who inevitably will look scummy at some point. Next thing is I ask my question to the thread to confirm my leftover feelings, hapa does not really tell me, corazon talks about a game I have not obsed/read, dp also has trouble differentiating between bad and scum on yamato. I know DP and hapa to be good players, dont know corazon so I arbitrarily decide to ignore corazon. See my feelings kinda confirmed and put yamato as null | ||
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On June 22 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: My problem is that you are voting for GK based on meta, because he once made a bad case against someone as scum. Guess what? Townies make bad cases too, especially early on in the game. I am not saying i think GK is town, but you seem to be so sure he is scum because of this meta you are describing, especially when you are under attack from some people now. If you are going to make a meta case at least get your facts straight. Look at Les Mafia, look at GK's case on me and tell me that the case GK made can only come from a scum!GK. its not specifically a meta case, meta is just supportive of objectively scummy play by fabricating a case based on a players inconsistent, wild playstyle | ||
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what is your current read on GK anyway? | ||
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you can assume that i am scum if that pleases you, I dont really care?! I don't see any difference in oats' play between here and I swear so I have him pretty firmly in town at the moment. Your case just looks like cooking up stuff, which is especially easy on oats since he is inconsistent and likes to switch his focus around a fair amount. tell me about dramatically differences in oats play. | ||
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Hapa needs to post more for me to make a good read on him. While I agree with the direction his play has been so far, I am used to more activity from his side, so I prefer waiting on him. yamato is in null camp as I already said Regarding ange, dunno about the internet problems and how much they interfere with her play, but so far not impressed. These 3 are all nullish reads right now. People I dislike are gk, sloosh and to a lesser extent syl gk for reasons already stated. sloosh flat out disappeared, from what I remember he was kind of lurky but not that bad and the more he lurks the likelier it is that he is scum. syl has done nothing so far, but it is eerily similiar to his play in I swear. He was survivor there so might be something to consider. | ||
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you are doing comparison wrong. compare d1 and d1 not n1/d2 when he locked onto you. | ||
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On June 22 2013 01:33 goodkarma wrote: This list is the very definition of "easy targets." And why are you in list form dishing out multiple null reads? I was asked.... not reading the thread gk? | ||
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