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Smancer
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I for one like the smaller player count. | ||
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On April 04 2013 03:50 TheRavensName wrote: Will you tell me how to pick up the ladies using my new found Mafia godlike powers? Just go up to any woman at all and say something. She will instantly think you are scum. This is woman policy. Even if you are, play like you are town. Get your wingman DT to return a town read, and build your case until you get her to ##Unvote | ||
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This should be a breeze. | ||
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On April 05 2013 02:46 iamperfection wrote: there is a clock in the top right corner..... Can't say I have ever noticed that. Why is that correct but my forum time is set to the same thing and posts are marked differently? Must be a daylight savings thing? EST versus EDT? | ||
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On April 05 2013 09:05 Rainbows wrote: THERAVENSNAME IS LURKING WE SHOULD LYNCH HIM ##Vote: TheRavensName Well that''s one way to start the game. | ||
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Smancer
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Obviously trying to get town to waste votes on a lurker that will most likely be mod killed at the end of the day. | ||
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That doesn't sound like much of a policy, it is more just saying use your best judgement and common sense. I wouldn't easily subscribe to any policy because you may not know if scum is behind it. | ||
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Just so you guys know my schedule I usually go to bed a little bit before the deadline. So last night I was up just for the beginning. So far I think Rainbows has done a good job of getting people to talk. I agree that you can't find scum unless you get people talking. I take issue with this post: + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 11:57 Saraf wrote: glhf Can we vote for a no-lynch in this game, or must votes be placed on individuals? Not talking policy Day 1 is bullshit. Scum know who scum are but we don't, and the only way we catch scum is by making them fuck up. Even if the policy ends up being "there is no policy", the debate drives conversation and conversation is the only reliable way we have of rooting out scum and eliminating them. Problems arise for town when scum derails the conversation, so here's some day 1 policy to chew on: In the absence of really strong reads, lynch the spammiest asshole who shits up the thread the most. Spamming the thread is a scum tactic to distract and disrupt town; even if the spammiest asshole is just some poor well-meaning fattie (who should have applied the litmus test "does this post help town?"), at the very least in Day 2 the thread will be less shit up, and it'll be easier to find scum without him shitting up the thread. Everyone hopefully will have a good reason for lynching someone. Just because they appear spammy is not reason enough IMO. We need to start looking at peoples objectives. I have already said that I think Rainbows objective was just to get people to post. It could be a front to act towny but I don't think he is a good lynch for day one. Even though I take issue with his intial post, he clears it up later by explaining what he consders spam and what he considers lots of useful posts. On April 05 2013 15:00 jrkirby wrote: So I'm worried about rainbows. I feel like he might actually be a fatty, and is just acting stupid by accusing random people for no reason. But the way he's acting is just stupid, and only helps the skinnies. And since he's just helping the skinnies I feel like I have to vote for him, because no one is acting as stupid as him. I don't want to lynch all the lurkers just yet - partially because there's 3 of them and it's a crapshot - and rainbows is the only other guy giving off that scum vibe. So until something changes, or one of the scum making a foolish post, my vote is on rainbows. The mafia are (probably) gonna kill one of us tonight, so it would be good if we at least have a chance of killing one of them tonight. It might not be rainbows but I feel like the chances are better than even. Why do you think generating discussion is only helping skinnies? That can't be enough to warrant a vote untless you are trying to pressure for more. I don't have a very good scum read on anyone ATM but jrkirby and Saraf for the quotes I posted are on my watch list. | ||
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Smancer
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+ Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 14:57 Moloch wrote: That was supposed to be a joke at that point. I didn't actually think he was scummy at that point. My original vote for him was a joke as well, since it was based upon him posting a lot early and not having enough time to eat pizza. But, I've kept my vote on him for a couple reasons. According to this post, he gets very defensive about about being called scum, whereas I interpreted Saraf's comment to not be calling out anyone in particular - just being the way he thought about stuff. (It's possible that I don't feel like anyone's been spammy so far affected how I interpreted it). I also don't like how he changed his vote from Smancer to someone else to quickly. He gave a reason he thought Smancer was a suspect, then just changed it to Saraf because he got overly defensive (but he had a couple posts in between Saraf labeling him and switching his vote, which makes me suspect that it wasn't a hasty vote-switch caused by emotion) I'm not certain about anyone, but Rainbows seems like the best bet at the moment. On April 05 2013 15:00 jrkirby wrote: So I'm worried about rainbows. I feel like he might actually be a fatty, and is just acting stupid by accusing random people for no reason. But the way he's acting is just stupid, and only helps the skinnies. And since he's just helping the skinnies I feel like I have to vote for him, because no one is acting as stupid as him. I don't want to lynch all the lurkers just yet - partially because there's 3 of them and it's a crapshot - and rainbows is the only other guy giving off that scum vibe. So until something changes, or one of the scum making a foolish post, my vote is on rainbows. The mafia are (probably) gonna kill one of us tonight, so it would be good if we at least have a chance of killing one of them tonight. It might not be rainbows but I feel like the chances are better than even. | ||
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I'll vote him for now, because I feel he is acting scum and trying to point fingers at the one person who actually got the thread moving toward finding scum. @Rainbows what is your read on jrkirby. | ||
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Is anyone here? | ||
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You wanted to hear from me as to why I voted Rainbows and then unvoted. How was it not absolutely clear that those were not serious votes? My read on you is that you are trying to start Drama based on nothing which is a pretty scummy thing to do. So to recap your first post in this thread is an analysis of joke votes. Your second post is just asking Warent what he thinks of Rainbow. And your third post is commenting on Rainbows giving Saraf a free pass. Furthermore you think Warrent is scummy because he hasn't been committal. But the same could be said about you. You haven't committed, you wrote a weak analysis of joke votes, and you aren't active. I don't like that you haven't actually contributed analysis on anything that hasn't been a joke. | ||
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On April 06 2013 06:12 Fishgle wrote: I too want to see some discussion about jampidampi. He's been jumping in and out, questioning people, but not really providing any opinions. Rather noncommital. Not only that, but he himself states people should be actively scumhunting, and doesn't do it himself. I don't like it. ] You actually have a really good point. Looking at his filter it is terrible. Almost every single post is posing a question to someone rather than actually contributing. I mean literally every single one is what do you think about X? Look at this: + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 15:52 jampidampi wrote: Does Rainbows behaviour make him scum in your eyes? On April 05 2013 14:05 jampidampi wrote: In what way do you like Obzy? On April 05 2013 14:20 jampidampi wrote: Moloch, in this post you calling Rainbows scum in a noncommital way (bolded by me). Do you think he is actually scummy for that post? On April 05 2013 14:38 jampidampi wrote: By that way, you are voting Rainbows. What makes hi scummy? On April 05 2013 14:54 jampidampi wrote: While Rainbows post does generate discussion, do you think it was a good way to start discussion? On April 05 2013 15:30 jampidampi wrote: Fishgle, does your post mean that you are going to sleep? Your posts so far have all been reagrding Rainbows. Any other opinions? On April 05 2013 16:08 jampidampi wrote: Warent, do you have opinions on someone not named Rainbows? | ||
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Smancer
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If you call whiskey and Advil PM going to bed, its more like passing out. With my huge fatness it is the only way to sleep :-) Earlier I based my case on kirby voting Rainbows. I thought Rainbows was doing a good job of getting the ball rolling and I thought jkirbys vote on him was scumy. Then he thought Rainbows was talking to him However based on the course of the night, between TRN, jamp and Rainbows I think we have a scum. The problem is to figure out who. I actually don't like Rainbows case against TRN. My opinion is that his case boils down to TRN was lurking. TRNs reaction seemed normal. What didn't make sense is jampidampi. His case against Rainbows really was bad. On April 06 2013 15:03 jampidampi wrote: Rainbows says how he likes Obzy. If you look at any mafia games posts, when someone likes someone, he thinks that guy is town. Just look at the list posts in this game: "I don't like XXX" is used in contexes, where people think XXX is scummy. Yet when I ask him to explain his liking of Obzy, he says he liked the name and that he has posted a lot, when at the time, Obzy had three posts. If look at those three posts, that is not a good basis for a town read. On April 06 2013 15:03 jampidampi wrote: This scummy since Rainbows clearly cares his image. I don't understand this. I want to find the scum, but, I also care about my image. I am town I want people to think I am town too. In regards to your point about Rainbows thinking someone was town. I think Rainbows has had more scum reads in this game so far than anyone. Lastly your demand for Rainbows to answer your questions is just silly. On April 06 2013 14:00 jampidampi wrote: Rainbows you better answear my questions. NOW So late in the game, when the focus has entirely shifted, you want him to go back and answer questions on policy? On April 05 2013 14:20 jampidampi wrote: Rainbows, what is the purpose for this post? Why should we tell beforehand what kind of behaviour we see as scummy? And your other big question you demand answered is why he made this comment: On April 05 2013 12:57 Rainbows wrote: I like you, Obzy. Those are your big questions? That has nothing to do with the current case he made against TRN. Or any of the recent pages for that matter. ##Unvote ##Vote:jampidampi Rainbows why are you sticking to your TRN vote and not voting for jampidampi after you saw how bad his case was. | ||
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On April 07 2013 05:50 jampidampi wrote: Since it's almost midnight, I'll post this and go to bed. If you are lynching me for doing nothing, why aren't you lynching JarJar? If you are lynching me for bad cases, why aren't you lynching Rainbows? If you can answear these question, then fine, lynch me. But if you lynch me, you better make the most out of it postflip. Pressure the shit out of anyone who can't answear these questions. Pressure the shit out of anyone who voted for me with halfassed reasoning or blatantly sheeped. Hopefully I'm alive when I wake up. Goodnight folks. Last post before he leaves makes me think he is scum. Not really posting a good defense. Not trying to convince anyone of his scum read. Maybe that is just his playstyle, but I disagree with it. If you are town, and you had a spotlight on you to be lynched, isn't the best thing to do to build your case against who you think is scum? I would defend myself politely and then take the time to pile all the evidence I could against someone who I thought was town. You didn't do any of that. In fact in this last post all you did was drive more confusion by pointing the finger at two people instead of narrowing it down to just one. I still think jampidampi is scum and he/she keeps my day 1 vote. I'll be back on before the deadline in 30 min or so. | ||
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Smancer
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pile all the evidence on the person I thought was scum*** | ||
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On April 07 2013 07:08 Moloch wrote: I agree that it is really weird that he hasn't freaked out a bit more. I think you're wrong with "If you are town... who you think is scum?" because that would be the best course of action whether you're town or scum. I'm considering changing my vote to JJD because of lack of panic (I was debating between jampi and JJD when I first voted for jampi, so this just tips the scale a bit). I think he's using those as examples of why you shouldn't vote for him, rather than why you should vote for Rainbows or JJD. As in, "it's silly to vote Rainbows because he made a bad case, so don't vote for me because I made a bad case." I'm pretty sure that's what he's trying to say there. But that is just it. His last post says why you shouldn't vote for him, but he doesn't leave us with who we should definitively vote for. And believe me this isn't THE reason I am voting for him, rather just icing on the cake. | ||
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