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Lazermonkey
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+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + I agree to all the rules and activity requirements in the OP. On March 26 2013 08:50 Ghor wrote: Smurf? /in I agree to all the rules and activity requirements in the OP. But phrase no in OP ((( sorry | ||
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On April 01 2013 00:47 Hapahauli wrote: TL time=Korea time I assume?It's sunday here :3 Starting tonight @ 07:00 TL Time. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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I want to start things off by saying that this is my first time playing an instant majority lynch. While the first 48 hours obviously aren't instant majority, I still think we can start discuss some policy to get things going. 1.If we are about to kill someone, we should at least give the person 24 hours to be able to put up a solid defense. 2.Throw votes around all you want but if you hammer someone, you and everyone else on that wagon better provide good reasoning for that. Everyone who fails at these stuff should get policy lynched right away imo. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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2. Yes, if we are going to kill someone, we might as well wait for them to out their reads and what not. If said person doesn't have the option to do so(for example if we kill someone while they are sleeping) then the person hammering are actually indirectly preventing potential information from us because even if we wouldn't be swayed by said persons potential defense, or areå really, really convinced he is scum, the possibility of us being wrong still exist and his reads will at least give something to work with. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On April 02 2013 07:30 VisceraEyes wrote: My problem is this: if we don't establish a HARD policy then we might end up in a really hairy situation where someone hammers a guy in a completely retarded way, and everyone will start defending him using the argument "but scum wouldn't be THAT dumb and suspicious". If everyone simply agrees with the policy then we will avoid stuff like that.Okay, but policy-lynching them? That seems a little over-the-top in a 9 player game. Policy-lynching anyone in a 9 player game just seems like a bad idea. It's certainly something to factor in, but not killing someone over. In my experience, townies are more likely to lolhammer than scum are. Scum are generally much more careful in how they vote and if they hammer someone are much more likely to explain why thoroughly. I don't support your policy. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On April 02 2013 07:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Define retard mode. Isthat hammering someone too fast? Or something else? Do you agree with my points or not? Blah blah blah policy blah blah Policy: Don't go full retard mode if you're town. Savvy? You'd think this would be common sense by now. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On April 02 2013 08:04 Sylencia wrote: Your vote means literally nothing untill we hit majority or deadline. I don't see how instant majority would shy away from that. Hello everyone, I hoped this would start over the Easter weekend but looks like I have to cut some Monster Hunter time for this instead :{ With regards to point 2, I thought that Instant Majority lynch is supposed to shy away from throwing votes around carelessly? Well, that depends on what you mean about throwing votes around.. With that being said, I do think it is a good idea to be voting, even though the person isn't getting lynched in the near future. Doing that makes it easier to follow who you suspect at what time and will help especially later on when players start to get looong filters and what : /. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On April 02 2013 07:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I never claimed that ignoring normal scum tells is the way to go but w/e.Be sensible about your hammer vote and explain it yada yada yada. You're policy lynch proposal is bullshit, because half the thread wouldn't follow through with it. How someone goes about voting and hammering is what should be looked at, not just "lol he emotionally hammered the townzorz must be scum" Listen to the Mafia scumcast (Hapa had a bunch of stuff to say about British II in it pertaining to instant majority). Has a bunch of goodies in it. So you are saying that my policy is bullshit because noone would follow it but I think that is a very bad reasoning. Either you think my policy is bullshit because the reasoning is bullshit or you think the policy is good but that it will be hard for everyone to follow it and therefore quite useless policy ( or you simply agree with it but that doesn't seem to be the case ^^). I do think it is a useless policy if half of the players in the game simply disagrees with it. But in theory, if we could guarantee that everyone would follow the policy, would you agree with the points I made? | ||
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Lazermonkey
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@Axle: I take L-1 as one vote from lynch, am I correct? Regarding risk: I'm not confident in voting him at the moment. While I agree that the "kenpachi-incident" makes him look kinda bad, he defended himself in a way I'm not sure scum would. I'd say that this could just as well be a strange town play rather than scum and it really comes down to WIFOM to figure out which one it is. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On April 02 2013 22:27 AxleGreaser wrote: I'd actually not talk about my (potential)scum read just yet. I want a certain interaction to be happening first. Most probebly, that will occour later today. + Show Spoiler + TBMK: in general use, L-1 = Lynch -1 = 1 more vote to Lynch. We are currently at L-2. So if you are "not confident in voting him at the moment.".... what do ? | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On April 02 2013 11:07 risk.nuke wrote: mentioning Hopeless but never Sylencia and that is well before Sylencias big post.Viscera. Tunneling isn't about time, it's about not having an open mind. You lashed out at me instantly and agressively for the smallest thing so clearly you're looking at me as if I am scum and are trying to find things things that are scummy about me to confirm that belief. Aka tunneling. You want REAL scummy shit. Everyone that's not posting are scummier then those who are posting. For 2, I personally think Hopeless1der look very uninterested in finding scum. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On April 02 2013 22:52 Sylencia wrote:Pressure votes work better if you're going to be around to take them off, otherwise it could end up being manslaughter in this game :\ I don't see why you are still so paranoid about voting around. If two guys just randomly just goes ahead and votes Risk right now, then we just lynch them both and win the game ezpz, right? Policy or not, there are stuff you cannot simply get away without getting in a very bad position. And I'll gladly trade one mafia for a townie. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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So the reason I didn't want to out my scum read earlier was twofold 1. I wanted a little more basis for my accusations. His entrance into the game was scummy but could just have been a result of him beeing busy rather than scum. 2. I didn't have enough time to write a decent case. Sylencias first 2 posts said absolutely nothing of anything. He then posts a seemingly long post but all it really contains 2 reads, the rest was stuff like calling risk wierd but no conclusion about his alignment. In this post he calls CC scum, VE town, and then proceeds to vote CC. Now it gets interesting! What does he do with this scum read? Jack shit! Instead he goes into this drawn out argument with Ghor about Ghor's case on him. Why do this? Why is he not chasing his scum read instead of defending himself against 1 single vote which isn't threatening at all. Why doesn't he try to convince us that CC is scum? Why does he go from On April 02 2013 18:53 Sylencia wrote:- Cheesecake: This filter looks atrocious in my eyes, casting an early vote with little thought, yet providing no substance while he's around. Not sure if trolling around is his meta but seems pretty scum from here. ToOn April 03 2013 00:10 Sylencia wrote: WITHOUT CC even posting in between??? And then goesIn addition, how is his statement about accuracy there that relevant to what happened before it? Are you suggesting that he said it to set up a bus on his buddy, then you're saying that he did that to say RoL is scum, then retract it? I don't even understand what you're getting at here. And at this point, no, he's played enough games where I don't see him making himself look suspicious 3 hours into the game. The case on him has its merits however I would rather first see more from the two I've heard least from today (Hopeless and CC) - moreso Hopeless because there's ever so slightly more from CC. Ghor - now that I've said it what are your thoughts on risk then? Would you say he is scum or not? Would you end up backing a vote on him if the time came for it? On April 03 2013 00:42 Sylencia wrote: Still without CC saying jack shit? Well I'll tell you folks, because he is scum!In any case ##unvote as I'm going to sleep now, but what Ghor is saying is becoming ridiculously stupid since he says risk is scum but doesn't want to have him killed. If you don't want your scum read to be killed what the hell do you want? If I wake up and this stupidity continues I won't hesitate to vote Ghor. ##Vote: Sylencia | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On April 03 2013 04:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Eeeerhm... Mind telling why you don't find the case convincing?I won't lynch Sylencia today. I DO want to know who Sylencia wants to lynch. | ||
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Lazermonkey
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On April 03 2013 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote: ???It's not a case, it's an observation that can be summed up as "Sylencia's read of CC has changed from lynchable to unvoting with CC not saying anything in between". I can see a town Sylencia becoming less and less sure of his read without help from CC, that's not scum indicative and it's your only point. Why does his read change have to be scum motivated? Explain why town Sylencia goes from "pretty sure hes scum" to unvote without the guy even says a word? And how he doesn't doesn't pressure his n1 scum read but instead goes on to defend himself against a accusations that weren't even close to killing him. And how he threatens to vote the guy that is stupid in an OMGUS fashion instead of the guy who was "pretty sure he is scum"? Please explain! | ||
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