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Newbie Mini Mafia XXXVI

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warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 15 2013 05:13 GMT
#17
/in

Haven't been active on TL lately (or much at all really) but I'm really interested in trying Mafia.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 15 2013 20:04 GMT
#27
Thank you Stutters! I do have some minor questions about the setup. The ms C9++ wiki includes the possibility of a single mason (innocent child). Is that true for this game? I'm also a little confused since the wiki does not include JK and miller in C9++. Can JK be 1-shot like cop/doctor/vig?

I realize I have a lot more basic stuff to learn before worrying about minutiae like this. After reading the OP and a few guides/game analyses, these are the only points that aren't 100% clear.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 15 2013 21:52 GMT
#30
On January 16 2013 05:35 Promethelax wrote:
On TL we use miller instead so innocent child.
This set up doesn't use one shot roles besides vig.



OK, but...

On January 15 2013 05:35 Stutters695 wrote:
Some of the roles may have limits on the number of times they may be used.


"Some" indicates more than one... If what you say is correct, then the OP should be changed to specify that only vig may be 1-shot, especially since standard C9++ can have 1-shot cop, doctor, and roleblocker.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 15 2013 23:36 GMT
#32
Thanks Axle, I will definitely try to use my coach as much as possible. I feel like I have a decent grasp on the rules and mechanics, but that's far from being able to actually play skillfully.

The only thing I'm worried about right now is that it could take a while for this game to fill up!
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 16 2013 06:19 GMT
#50
On January 16 2013 08:59 Promethelax wrote:
This is based on a more standard c9++ than we usually use.

Got it. I like this setup. No offence to the setup you usually use.

On January 16 2013 09:35 Djodref wrote:
I like this guy already ^^

BFFs?

Thanks for the warm welcome, folks. I can't believe I was ignorant of this sub-forum for so long. That Twitch video Palmar made where he calls people dumb for 1h40m has to be one of the most awesomely stupid things I've ever seen (two thumbs up).
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 18 2013 17:35 GMT
#64
On January 18 2013 23:57 Slayalot wrote:

I'm a teacher, and I've thought about playing mafia with my 9th grade. So Im here to try the internet version out, thus gaining exprtience


I played Mafia at summer camp, around 6th grade age IIRC. It was an absolute blast.

However, I seem to recall seeing an article about a teacher that got in some hot water for playing Mafia with their class. The parents assumed it was a gang-violence-glorifying game invented by Griselda Blanco or something. I hope the parents in your district aren't this obnoxious; just something to keep in mind if you're going to play a game that has students "lynching" each other
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 22 2013 21:11 GMT
#76

more than halfway full!

Greetings SkaPunk, Sn0_Man, Acid~, and zarepath. I've enjoyed observing your play in Newbie XXXV (excepting SkaPunk of course). Hopefully this game won't have any smurf replacement/modkill drama!
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 24 2013 17:13 GMT
#93
On January 25 2013 01:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
What is a "2 of 4 setup"?


I think stutters meant to link
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=2of4

It's a 9 player newbie setup.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 26 2013 02:16 GMT
#104
I'd like to get this flawless town victory started by suggesting some ideas to promote a healthy town atmosphere:

  • No lurking! Personally I'm not yet decided on Lynch All Lurkers, but it sounds like a decent idea.
  • Post succinctly. Don't ramble about your personal life. Don't post a stream of consciousness... coalesce your ideas before you post.
  • Don't be needlessly aggressive. Pressuring scum to get information is great, being a jerk for no reason is not.


GLHF everyone
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 26 2013 06:03 GMT
#109
You're both right that aggression is useful for scumhunting when applied logically. It's also useful for crapping up the thread and distracting attention away from scumbuddies. We can deal with that when/if it happens.

Acid~, your first post in XXXV was a lot more useful.

On January 26 2013 14:31 Acid~ wrote:
It's a fine line to walk, but I'd rather be too mean and lynch scum than too nice and lose. Sometimes being a "jerk" is the perfect way to extract information, because they way the person reacts can be a tell of their alignment.


My original post said "being a jerk for no reason"; scumhunting is a good reason. Snoman already made this exact point. Is there a good reason you made this rather pointless post?
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 26 2013 13:31 GMT
#114
On January 26 2013 20:59 Acid~ wrote:
I also had four or five pages of thread to analyze, it's illogical to expect the same kind of post when there's not even half a page yet.


Why didn't you wait until there were 5 pages to review in this game before posting, then? Nobody forced you to make a 2 sentence post that sounds like a scum trying to blend in. Your assertion here is appears reasonable, but in fact this is a lame excuse.

On January 26 2013 20:59 Acid~ wrote:
Why would you assume I automatically agree with Snoman, especially without knowing either of our alignments?


I assumed you agreed with snoman because you literally made the same point as snoman, just worded differently. Snoman also said some more stuff, which I feel contributed to the thread. What I think about your alignment is irrelevant to whether you made a quality first post, so I interpret this as a strawman.

I'm still willing to believe I'm misinterpreting your posts. Please explain how you were contributing to the thread or why you felt the need to make such an effort-lacking first post (breaking with your recent town meta). If you were literally just being lazy, and felt the need to post something, then say so. If you felt you actually did contribute something that hadn't been said already, then I'll just have to take your world for it.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 26 2013 13:40 GMT
#116
EBWOP: Remove the first occurrence of "is" in my 3rd sentence. Replace "world" with "word" in the last sentence.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 26 2013 15:21 GMT
#118
Glurio, I agree with your stance on lynching lurkers. While a non-contributing town is essentially playing for scum (and as such may be modkilled), lynching a lurker is better than no-lynch. At least that's what the coaches told me.

I also agree with Zarepath, to an extent. Acid's first post was not a big deal blatant scumslip or anything (I don't dispute his original point). I found Acid's second post was unsatisfactory, though, which casts even more doubt on him in my eyes.

I'm really displeased with the level of activity so far. Every time zone has had a reasonable chance to post, game start time was not a surprise. There's no excuse to lurk.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 26 2013 17:30 GMT
#123
Acid~, I take your response to mean you do feel that your posts were productive so far. I think it's interesting that you defend yourself by attacking me personally. I'm not the only one making this case against you.

You're right, though. I'm done discussing this if you are.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 26 2013 19:52 GMT
#128
Snoman, I was trying to scumhunt. Mocsta tried to look like he was scumhunting in XXXV. It makes sense that there would be parallels. And yeah, Acid~ seems to be acting much more himself now

You're right that me mentioning coaching like that could look scummy. This was a indirect way of saying "I am town". I don't think claiming town is scummy D1 -- it basically means nothing -- but doing it indirectly could be interpreted as an attempt to be sneaky and implant suggestions or something. I promise you I am not that sneaky.

I think my (stupid) coach claim is a valid point of scumhunting discussion, though. So please have at it. Maybe it will give the remaining lurkers something to talk about.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 26 2013 20:20 GMT
#130
On January 27 2013 04:17 Slayalot wrote:
I don't think it's wise to make people afraid to post. If you can extract that much information from what Acid has written so far, you are either damn good at this game, or just very interested in pointing a finger at someone.


I wanted to point a finger at someone, I would have done so, by declaring FoS. I did not because my case against Acid~ was weak. I was surprised by his initial roundabout answer, so I followed up with some pressure. He then furnished the answer I was looking for, so I backed off.

I want to make it clear that I never once claimed Acid~ was actually scum. Making this claim in a newbie game based on meta over a single post would be ridiculous.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 26 2013 20:53 GMT
#132
EBWOP: If I wanted to point a finger

I'm really sorry, for breaking the guidelines. I'll do my best to follow them properly going forward.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 27 2013 01:45 GMT
#134
On January 27 2013 10:20 Sn0_Man wrote:trying to scumhunt and trying to look like you are scumhunting are 2 very different things, and should be reasonably distinct.


I don't agree. If someone pretends to scumhunt convincingly, they should appear to be the same as someone who is actually scumhunting. Just because Mocsta pretended effectively (for a while) in XXXV does not mean I'm doing the same thing.

The way I see it, the only thing I can do to further address your other concerns is to play solid town, without being overly aggressive and feeding into your criticism. This seems reasonable so I'll give it a shot, unless you have a better suggestion, or some direct questions for me.

Your point B is not possible for me to address further. You've made your point here, I gave my explanation before I realized I had broken the rules. Can we leave it at that?
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 27 2013 03:31 GMT
#137
Sn0man can you explain in more detail what's scummy about me claiming town? I believe claiming town is at worst a null read. I think we can discuss this without breaking the rules.

Why are you attacking me because I claim to be scum hunting? Trying to discourage scumhunting is scummy.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
January 27 2013 05:08 GMT
#139
[B]On January 27 2013 04:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
At the moment I can draw a LOT of parallels between warbaby and mocsta last game (and that coach town claim looked really scummy WB. Really scummy).

I'd like other peoples thoughts on WB's town/coach claim.


Mocsta never straight up claimed town, so could I assume the parallel you're now drawing is that my trying to control town makes me scum because Mocsta did it, and he was scum in XXXV?

I think that's a totally legitimate point, although if I was trying to control town it was not really on purpose. Nobody should be controlling town unless there is a mayor power role, and then you should lynch the mayor immediately. Every town should be thinking for themselves.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
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