• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:45
CEST 09:45
KST 16:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview1[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event11Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced9
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
(Spoiler) Asl ro8 D winner interview BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Do we have a pimpest plays list? AI Question
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1137 users

Newbie Mini Mafia XXXV

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 07 2013 19:15 GMT
#45
I'll try a mafia.

/in
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 07 2013 19:29 GMT
#47
On January 08 2013 04:17 Promethelax wrote:
Hey, hey everyone. Talk to your coaches. PM me (or us) I am the town coach. Townies, talk to me for help.


I didn't think role PMs were out yet...
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 16:37 GMT
#112
On January 05 2013 10:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
Rules:

Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):

Posting any PM you received in connection to this game (except your role PM).


So does this mean all the townies can just post screenshots of their role PMs and Lynch those who don't?. Mafia gonna need mad photoshop skillz
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 16:54 GMT
#119
On January 12 2013 01:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
Cheating:
....
4. Posting screenshots of anything.
....


Apparently I have the reading comprehension of a 3 year old.

Either way, I think clarifying that "You MAY claim a role, but you may NOT post any PMs" might be a good idea. I don't see how allowing role PMs helps this particular game
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 17:01 GMT
#121
While we wait for the last confirmation, I have some general questions with respect to setup, but probably not ones that I will get very specific answers.

What is a common Townie/Blue/Mafia ratio? Something like 3/1/1? or 2.5/1.5/1? My first game of forum mafia here

Also curious, If Pa Grape (Cop) checks the Dinner Fork (Third Party), What does he receive back? According to OP he recieves EITHER guilty OR innocent. I assume he would get guilty, but that might mislead town about how many mafia they need to nail? I suppose that is a good/desirable part of the game?
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 18:28 GMT
#126
48 hour days means that you have forever to get in lynch votes, although admittedly you will miss a lot of the last-minute discussion.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 18:32 GMT
#128
On January 12 2013 03:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
48 hour days means that you have forever to get in lynch votes, although admittedly you will miss a lot of the last-minute discussion.


you would be surprised


First game. No doubt I will be surprised .

I'm still going over in my head ways a Serial Killer can actually win without mafia OR town victory triggers happening.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 18:46 GMT
#130
On January 12 2013 03:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 03:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 12 2013 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
48 hour days means that you have forever to get in lynch votes, although admittedly you will miss a lot of the last-minute discussion.


you would be surprised


First game. No doubt I will be surprised .

I'm still going over in my head ways a Serial Killer can actually win without mafia OR town victory triggers happening.

Killing everybody else is usually a good start.

Then you go from there.



Since I assume town can win even if SK is still alive (hes not mafia, town have no need to eliminate him), and mafia can win even if SK is still alive (I think...), SK has 2 possible win conditions.
1: Enter the final night with 3 living people, 1 mafia 1 townie and himself. He NK's the mafia, the mafia NK's the townie and voila.
2: Enter the final night with 2 living people, but still with his KP protection that he starts with (if he chooses). He kills mafia, mafia's attempt to kill him is blocked, done.

However, I thought scenario 2 would lead to mafia victory triggers? (all townies are dead). The Role section (and sample role PMs) weren't all that clear on mafia win conditions.

Thoughts? (since we have like 9+ hours to game start...)

LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 18:58 GMT
#133
On January 12 2013 03:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
No, as long as the SK is alive, the game must go on.

He has to be lynched or shot.


I'm happy to believe that, but that is certainly not the way it is represented in the role explanation section. (And you don't happen to be host/cohost).

Either way, I gather that most games do NOT have an SK so...
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 19:59:12
January 11 2013 19:58 GMT
#136
On January 12 2013 04:55 zebezt wrote:
Yeah, I thought about SK kill conditions alot as well too. Seems very hard.
A last night with 4 people including a vigilante also could lead to a winning scenario.


I thought about that, but the chances of there being mafia, a vig AND an SK are pretty slim. The game ends too fast that way (I'm guessing). Plus the vig is decently likely to have used up their bullet{s} at that point.

either way, Dandelion seems to indicate that other kill conditions are superseded by there being an SK so the game wont insta-end. I don't really know.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 11 2013 20:36 GMT
#138
On January 12 2013 05:31 Promethelax wrote:
Think of the town win con as 'eliminate all antitown factions' instead of eliminate all scum.


I know you aren't host, but my thoughts on the statement:

Write the town win con as 'eliminate all antitown factions' instead of "You win with town, by killing all the mafia dudes" (direct quote from sample VT role PM).
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 12 2013 04:01 GMT
#168
Wheeee Game has started.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 12 2013 05:04 GMT
#175
On January 12 2013 13:13 Mocsta wrote:
My answers to own questions

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 13:09 Mocsta wrote:
1) Stance on Lurkers: i.e. Do you policy lynch?

Yes, if there is no strong scum read, vote off a lurker. If we create a good town environment, where people can contribute and not be scared, there should be no lurkers. That is my goal this game!
Show nested quote +

2) How do you think scum would try to get influence with us?

From what I have seen in my 2 games, it depends on the person. Some have lurked hardcore, some have given minimal contributions.

If we have a solid town atmosphere, and people can share opinions freely, I am sure we can reduce the influence!

Show nested quote +
3) [fluff] DONT BUY A POOL. I wasted all my time today with pools and hate it !

AGREED!

I won't be around for the next 6 to 8 hrs (DAMN POOL!)



1) If somebody is super-lurky, they obviously aren't helping town much. I'm not lynching a lurker over a scummy player though.

2) With posts just like your one above

3) You live in australia doesn't that shit just evaporate? What are water bills like down there? I have a cousin visiting australia atm (Melbourne I think).
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 12 2013 05:04 GMT
#176
EBWOP

Shit I quoted ur wrong post. Meant to quote ur first one.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 12 2013 05:22 GMT
#179
I'm not denying, discussion is good/important and if nobody starts it scum autowin. However, if a scum can get control of town fast, they almost instawin. As a gambit, it seems fair since people like you are jumping in to defend him pretty fast.

Plus, the use of the word "us" is a pretty ingratiating town claim to make in your first post (if town thinks of mocsta as "us" then he is pretty happy). Either way, that post felt like the opening gambit of a scum whose plan was to utterly control town. Obviously there are other ways to read it, I'm not voting mocsta here (yet).

Additionally, the way the 2nd question is asked almost makes me think he is asking "Tell me your scumhunting plans so that I know what you are thinking about and what I can avoid".

My 2c
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 12 2013 05:51 GMT
#181
On January 12 2013 14:44 Trotske wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 14:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm not denying, discussion is good/important and if nobody starts it scum autowin. However, if a scum can get control of town fast, they almost instawin. As a gambit, it seems fair since people like you are jumping in to defend him pretty fast.

Plus, the use of the word "us" is a pretty ingratiating town claim to make in your first post (if town thinks of mocsta as "us" then he is pretty happy). Either way, that post felt like the opening gambit of a scum whose plan was to utterly control town. Obviously there are other ways to read it, I'm not voting mocsta here (yet).

Additionally, the way the 2nd question is asked almost makes me think he is asking "Tell me your scumhunting plans so that I know what you are thinking about and what I can avoid".

My 2c


How would you have started the town conversation and not fallen into the points you make I would have made a post similar to his.


Not sure, never played mafia before. I didn't have much interest in leading but if nobody did I'd have figured out something to start discussion.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 14 2013 02:41 GMT
#426
##Vote: Mocsta
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 14 2013 02:43 GMT
#429
Admittedly, I've been pretty inactive. Lets just way weekends aren't when I anticipate putting a lot of effort into Mafia.

Monday morning I'll finish reading the thread, but for now, Mocsta has done very little to foster a townie atmosphere while working far too hard to throw in subliminal townie claims for my liking.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 14 2013 02:44 GMT
#431
Besides, even as townie last game he wasn't exactly helping town figure stuff out, preferring to go charging off against anybody he took a dislike too and shouting down anybody who dissented.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 14 2013 05:24 GMT
#499
I suppose at this point we kinda wait and see who gets NK'd before we go too deep into analysis, but I'm with zare. I'll draw up more detailed arguments during the day period most likely.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 45m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
-ZergGirl 86
StarCraft: Brood War
Flash 2873
Mong 149
actioN 103
Noble 46
Bale 17
SilentControl 17
ZergMaN 12
Dota 2
monkeys_forever190
League of Legends
JimRising 580
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1120
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King69
Westballz28
Other Games
summit1g6198
C9.Mang0550
Sick244
ROOTCatZ56
Nina39
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick642
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream31
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt500
Upcoming Events
GSL
1h 45m
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
1d 1h
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
1d 3h
OSC
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
Escore
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
BSL
4 days
GSL
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-05
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W6
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.