This thread is to shed a bit more light onto the situation of a number of other threads and maybe make a bit more of a deal of certain aspects of the descion, i hope i have not done anything wrong, but alot of questions are in the other threads which are answered in the others...so i made this
The Coming Together
So, what we know is that EG Proposed to Team Liquid about merging together, as one big team, to take on the ProLeague, KESPA's (and arguably the world's) biggest and most renown Team League. The result, the birth of EG-Liquid a power house of foreign teams to take on the best from Korea in their backyard, on their turf all for a magical $275,000!!
The Manager's Statements
Liquid Nazgul Wrote;
Two huge steps forward are taken today. Not only is Liquid going to be a part of the Proleague legacy, but we will do so with Evil Geniuses. Throughout the past year, our relationship with EG has consistently grown, and when they presented us with this opportunity, we were more than intrigued. We are all very excited about beginning this new challenge and are both ready to make history.
The Proleague has been a mainstay of our coverage since its creation. It is the longest running team league in esports and has played host to the largest crowd in esports history. Many veterans on this site have grown up with Proleague, eagerly waking up early to follow their favorite teams from season to season. And now, after following Proleague for what seems like an eternity, Liquid becomes part of its legacy alongside Evil Geniuses.
Teaming up with our old enemy Evil Geniuses to undertake this incredible challenge is a new and exciting development. There is no doubt that we still see EG as our biggest rivals, but maybe that is exactly what makes it so appealing; the two biggest adversaries coming together to take on an even larger enemy on their home turf. It's an opportunity that makes us all very excited.
Liquid has gained considerable experience in team leagues over the past few years and have posted strong results in international team leagues like IPL TAC, EGMC and NASTL. And EG, who earlier this year struggled in teamleagues, has recently performed very well, placing highly in IPTL and - by some miracle of god - managing to take a match from us in the process. Proleague is a different beast and poses a greater challenge than anything either of us have done before; but we are both ready to rise to the occasion. We are quietly confident that in joining with EG we have a genuine shot at the championship and will work as hard as we can to live up to the expectations of the community.
Liquid will be adding our players that are currently living in Korea to the roster. These will be Zenio, Sea, HerO, and TaeJa. As the tournament progresses we will be exploring our options with regard to bringing over additional players.
Outside of Proleague, nothing changes. As much we'll enjoy fighting alongside Evil Geniuses to tackle the Proleague, we'll still relish taking them on in all other competitions.
The Proleague has been a mainstay of our coverage since its creation. It is the longest running team league in esports and has played host to the largest crowd in esports history. Many veterans on this site have grown up with Proleague, eagerly waking up early to follow their favorite teams from season to season. And now, after following Proleague for what seems like an eternity, Liquid becomes part of its legacy alongside Evil Geniuses.
Teaming up with our old enemy Evil Geniuses to undertake this incredible challenge is a new and exciting development. There is no doubt that we still see EG as our biggest rivals, but maybe that is exactly what makes it so appealing; the two biggest adversaries coming together to take on an even larger enemy on their home turf. It's an opportunity that makes us all very excited.
Liquid has gained considerable experience in team leagues over the past few years and have posted strong results in international team leagues like IPL TAC, EGMC and NASTL. And EG, who earlier this year struggled in teamleagues, has recently performed very well, placing highly in IPTL and - by some miracle of god - managing to take a match from us in the process. Proleague is a different beast and poses a greater challenge than anything either of us have done before; but we are both ready to rise to the occasion. We are quietly confident that in joining with EG we have a genuine shot at the championship and will work as hard as we can to live up to the expectations of the community.
Liquid will be adding our players that are currently living in Korea to the roster. These will be Zenio, Sea, HerO, and TaeJa. As the tournament progresses we will be exploring our options with regard to bringing over additional players.
Outside of Proleague, nothing changes. As much we'll enjoy fighting alongside Evil Geniuses to tackle the Proleague, we'll still relish taking them on in all other competitions.
Alex Garfield Worte:
It could be argued that Evil Genuses/TeamLiquid is the most storied rivalry in the history of non-Korean StarCraft. Whether you're talking about IdrA vs. HuK from late 2010 to mid-2011, PuMa vs. HerO in late 2011, EG's controversial recruitment of HuK away from Liquid last year, or IdrA's never-ending battle with the TL forum moderators, the EG and Liquid names have together created some of the most compelling storylines our sport has ever seen. And while our rivalry has always been fierce - and will always be - it has also always been mutual respectful, and has not been bitter for quite some time.
Obviously, Liquid's roster is excellent, and from a pure competition perspective, the addition of their players provides tremendous value to our partnership. However, to me, this joint participation represents much more than a mutual desire to win. To me, on the part of both organizations and their leaders, it represents mutual respect, reciprocal admiration, and a shared vision for the future of StarCraft as a professional sport. If I had approached Victor with this idea a year ago, he would've questioned my sanity. If I had approached him six months ago, he would've politely declined. But when I approached him recently, he was open to it, and we mutually worked out the details necessary to make the idea a reality. To me, on a personal level, that is as significant an accomplishment as having Evil Geniuses in Korea's most prestigious league.
Liquid has always been - and will continue to be - our fiercest rival. But rivalries do not have to be bitter; they do not have to involve mutual hatred and disrespect. We will continue to do battle with Liquid in individual tournaments and other teamleagues, but together, at this moment in time, we undertake this new challenge together. And I could not be happier or prouder to be partnered with Victor and TeamLiquid for the pursuit of the common goal of a Proleague championship.
Obviously, Liquid's roster is excellent, and from a pure competition perspective, the addition of their players provides tremendous value to our partnership. However, to me, this joint participation represents much more than a mutual desire to win. To me, on the part of both organizations and their leaders, it represents mutual respect, reciprocal admiration, and a shared vision for the future of StarCraft as a professional sport. If I had approached Victor with this idea a year ago, he would've questioned my sanity. If I had approached him six months ago, he would've politely declined. But when I approached him recently, he was open to it, and we mutually worked out the details necessary to make the idea a reality. To me, on a personal level, that is as significant an accomplishment as having Evil Geniuses in Korea's most prestigious league.
Liquid has always been - and will continue to be - our fiercest rival. But rivalries do not have to be bitter; they do not have to involve mutual hatred and disrespect. We will continue to do battle with Liquid in individual tournaments and other teamleagues, but together, at this moment in time, we undertake this new challenge together. And I could not be happier or prouder to be partnered with Victor and TeamLiquid for the pursuit of the common goal of a Proleague championship.
What Else?
So with this being announced, many fans already got excited, but unless you clicked on the EG website or looked in a few other thread you will not know what else is happening on more of an EG front than anything else, i will explain;
The EG LAB!
EG Announces it will be opening a house in Korea, for its team!! Here's the announcement from their website.
Proleague is one of the most difficult, time-consuming, and emotionally demanding gaming leagues to have ever existed. That's why we've set up a brand new Korean training house, which will be titled "The Lab," in the same building as our new neighbors Incredible Miracle. This facility is designed to allow all of our players to practice more intensely, and get more out of their practice, than ever before.
We also recognize that the more casual methods used in the western world for training players will not yield the results worthy of the opportunity we've been given in Proleague. And that's why, while we'll continue to take our own, unique approach to training our players, we'll now be providing them with the professional coaches needed to help them improve their skills, think differently about their craft, and transform themselves into the best pro gamers they can possibly be.
But again, that is not all! There is more.
A Korean Manager...
They have a Korean coach/manager of this team house! And not only that he is an ex SKT1 coach. He will also be teaming up with Hwanni the EG Korean Operations Director to get the team in tip top shape for the proleague. Here is their statement;
Sung Jin Park, formerly a coach and manager for SKT1, has been hired as the new Korean Head Coach for Evil Geniuses, and will work alongside EG's existent General Manager, Cody "evoli" Conners, and Korean Operations Director, Sung Hwan "Hwanni" Kim, in developing and preparing the team for Proleague and other major teamleagues and tournaments.
We hope that EG and Liquid fans alike will embrace Sung Jin, both as a welcome addition to the Evil Geniuses organization, and as a perfect Head Coach for the EG-Liquid team in Proleague. We're confident that his personality and mindset speak to the type of coach and leader needed to maximize our players' performance and represent both organizations well.
We hope that EG and Liquid fans alike will embrace Sung Jin, both as a welcome addition to the Evil Geniuses organization, and as a perfect Head Coach for the EG-Liquid team in Proleague. We're confident that his personality and mindset speak to the type of coach and leader needed to maximize our players' performance and represent both organizations well.
Well We Know It All Now Right?....Or Do We
No that is not all, we need to know the Roster! And We have most of it, i shall reveal what we know and who will be on this ProLeague adventure for EG-Liquid;
So that about sums up what we know already. ProLeague starts December 8th and the fixture's were released for week 1 a moment ago, it is
EG-TL vs KT Rolster
Bad news for their first game vs KT Rolster; EG-TL are going to be minus HerO TaeJa and DeMusliM as they are all in California trying to win NASL! Stephano Also confirmed he is going to be "at home" for a 2 week break as of the start of this week.
EG-TL vs KT - Match 1
KT Rolster vs EG-Liquid
Set 1: Flash < Caldeum > Zenio
Set 2: Wooki < Cloud Kingdom > JYP
Set 3: Action < Antiga Shipyard > ThorZaIN
Set 4: Stats < Ohana > Jaedong
Set 5: Crazy-Hydra < Bifrost > HuK
Set 6: Mind < Arkanoid > PuMa
Ace Match: < Planet S >