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On December 04 2012 23:53 ggrrg wrote:Does anyone know what time the EG-TL vs KT match will be? Not that it matters much. For this game I'm willing to get up at 5 am like in the good old times
- Games will broadcast at mid-day on OGN during weekends, while SPOTV begins their broadcast at 5pm KST on Monday and Tuesdays. -GTR
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Woah, Stephano will be playing!? That is probably the most surprising news out of all of this.
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That roster needs another zerg! It's a pipe dream but it would be cool to see Ret go, or the return of TLO.
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I think with all the players there, being included on the roster simply means "while we're in Korea, we will compete" not that they will be staying in Korea to compete.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Hmm, I'm not liking this team all that much. They could do well in an all-kill format with Taeja and Stephano as the backbone and HerO, JYP and the rest as the meat, but they might not do well in Proleague. Do they have a player for each matchup? Proleague format puts a lot of importance in race picking for maps, so having a matchup ace for all matchups is more important than having all-around strong players.
TvT: Taeja TvZ: Taeja TvP: Taeja DeMuslim is okay in TvT and TvP though, esp if he brings his NASL form. Not sure how Thorzain is right now. Sea is showing potential but not sure what his best matchup is. PuMa had eye surgery or something (read it on NASL LR thread explaining his triple bunker rush), so I wonder how much he has been practicing.
PvP: HuK / Coinflip PvZ: JYP? I guess PvT: HerO? No real choice. Their Toss lineup of HerO/JYP/HuK look good on paper, but do any of them have a really strong matchup? They are all players that are good in everything but don't have a specific great one. JYPvZ used to be solid but I don't know about now, esp with all the late game PvZ tears.
ZvZ: Idra / Zenio ZvT: Stephano ZvP: Stephano The Zerg lineup seems ok, with Idra showing really strong ZvZ recently. Stephano is historically weakest in that matchup but thankfully Zenio and Idra might be good enough to fill that role. Picking up ByuL might be a good idea though. I liked the look of his ZvT.
Actually that's better than I thought. However they're going to need someone to step up in the TvX (Taeja can only play one game lol) and PvX matchups (more specialty, less all around) before they will really be a threatening team. Hope they do well.
Edit: Forgot to mention they could get counter picked really hard. Stephano doesn't like ZvZ, JYPvT is legendary, HerO's pretty weak in PvP, HuK's PvT is sub-50. Taeja is the only one without a weak matchup among their staples.
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lol so we'll have the potential for a Coach Park from SKT1 vs a Coach Park formerly of SKT1
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TLO and Ret are my hopes, though that's gonna be a stacked house either way. DeMusliM in Korea is the greatest news ever. And maybe IM can kidnap Stephano and force him to play Code S now!
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Norway25712 Posts
On December 04 2012 22:29 Integra wrote: Wait a second, who owns the team house in Korea, is it EG? EG has two team houses now?
What the fuck are the other teams doing wrong, seriously. We hear all the time how various so called "teams" opens up a team house and then some bullshit happens, like we lost the money, players aren't getting food or the staff in the house are idiots. Then we have EG which for some odd reason are competent enough to have two team houses. EG should hold courses to the other teams on how to operate a successful organization. Sponsors. THey have the big guns when it comes to sponsors.
Anyway, this sounds awesomely amazing. With that lineup I could definitely see them taking games off anything KeSPA throws at them. And another training house, in Korea, enxt to IM? Damn!
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United States7483 Posts
On December 05 2012 00:04 lichter wrote: Hmm, I'm not liking this team all that much. They could do well in an all-kill format with Taeja and Stephano as the backbone and HerO, JYP and the rest as the meat, but they might not do well in Proleague. Do they have a player for each matchup? Proleague format puts a lot of importance in race picking for maps, so having a matchup ace for all matchups is more important than having all-around strong players.
TvT: Taeja TvZ: Taeja TvP: Taeja DeMuslim is okay in TvT and TvP though, esp if he brings his NASL form. Not sure how Thorzain is right now. Sea is showing potential but not sure what his best matchup is. PuMa had eye surgery or something (read it on NASL LR thread explaining his triple bunker rush), so I wonder how much he has been practicing.
PvP: HuK / Coinflip PvZ: JYP? I guess PvT: HerO? No real choice. Their Toss lineup of HerO/JYP/HuK look good on paper, but do any of them have a really strong matchup? They are all players that are good in everything but don't have a specific great one. JYPvZ used to be solid but I don't know about now, esp with all the late game PvZ tears.
ZvZ: Idra / Zenio ZvT: Stephano ZvP: Stephano The Zerg lineup seems ok, with Idra showing really strong ZvZ recently. Stephano is historically weakest in that matchup but thankfully Zenio and Idra might be good enough to fill that role. Picking up ByuL might be a good idea though. I liked the look of his ZvT.
Actually that's better than I thought. However they're going to need someone to step up in the TvX (Taeja can only play one game lol) and PvX matchups (more specialty, less all around) before they will really be a threatening team. Hope they do well.
Edit: Forgot to mention they could get counter picked really hard. Stephano doesn't like ZvZ, JYPvT is legendary, HerO's pretty weak in PvP, HuK's PvT is sub-50. Taeja is the only one without a weak matchup among their staples.
ThorZaIN can be a monster TvP and TvT, although his TvZ is frequently weak.
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DeMusliM - I hope his time in Korea makes him the breakout foreign terran that we all need.
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well.... holyyyy shittttt is all i can say! im so excited
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On December 04 2012 23:51 Gosi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2012 23:46 Doodsmack wrote:On December 04 2012 23:38 Gosi wrote: Too bad Stephano is the only foreigner in this "foreigner team" that will be able to actually take games. Except we've seen them taking games from Koreans in the very recent past lol. You almost made a good argument though...wait, no actually it was terrible. Proleague that is everything for KeSPA teams, with better players, coaching staffs and preperation =/= weekend tournament with jet lags and mass gaming in tight time frames. Didn't that online MvP tournament give you a pre taste of what it will be like? I guess you just have to wait and see for yourself then.
1) it's bo1s, 2) those foreigners have taken games code A/S, 3) unless you believe Kespa players are more intelligent people than GSL players (since again, the foreigners took games off GSL players in a preparation environment) and those foreigners, I see no reason why preparation would give them a unique advantage over everyone else. SC2 is a volatile game.
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Nice to see a foreign team (or half atleast) with some depth in a teamleague. Hopefully they won't just send the koreans out to get sniped everytime.
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On December 04 2012 22:37 Lightspeaker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2012 22:29 Integra wrote: Wait a second, who owns the team house in Korea, is it EG? EG has two team houses now?
What the fuck are the other teams doing wrong, seriously. We hear all the time how various so called "teams" opens up a team house and then some bullshit happens, like we lost the money, players aren't getting food or the staff in the house are idiots. Then we have EG which for some odd reason are competent enough to have two team houses. EG should hold courses to the other teams on how to operate a successful organization. A lot of teams are JUST SC2 or JUST a couple of games and are relatively new with little experience. EG is a 13 year old multigaming organisation spread across several different games, with an insane number of sponsors and a group of management figures who take the "business" aspect of it very seriously indeed. Simply put, they run as a proper business and have a long standing reputation and a lot of experience in esports. Thats how they're so successful; rather than just starting up and then operating on a wing and a prayer.
This puts it about right, structurally speaking EG is excellent and they seem to do an amazing job with player management relative to the"so called, 'teams'," to which the original quote had originally alluded.
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When I saw Park, I thought it was coach Park. I still miss coach Park (
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Puma, Hero, Taeja and stephano on same team... its just not fair xD
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Now all we need is a 'why tl-eg is going to win proleague'-post.
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On December 04 2012 23:35 Najda wrote: So am I rooting for the Team Geniuses or Evil Liquids?
Liquid Geniuses imo :D
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Wonder if GOM will give Stephano a seed for next code S if he's already in Korea playing proleague. Well really I'm wondering if he'll say yes
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United States15536 Posts
This is going to be straight up incredible.
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